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illusions_fool
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posted May 19, 2006 10:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know Venus and Neptune have a lot to do with romance and love, but what about being too romantic and idealistic in issues of the heart? What placements and aspects have a strong influence on the people who want fairytale romances [like myself]? I mean, I'm sure I'm not the only one in the world who wants their first kiss to be with their one and only soulmate, the person they're destined to meet and be with forever. Or their first experience with sex to be with their soulmate. To marry who fate has already set aside for eachother and to not divorce with this special person. And hope that the other person waits for them too, to experience all their firsts with their special someone. And basically, like I said, have that fairytale romance!
Does anyone else feel this way too ?

~Rebekka

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Aphrodite
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posted May 19, 2006 10:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was like that too. May be I am still am. Cynicism gets to me at times. And I know that, that too, is an illusion.

I have Venus square Neptune.

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ciao
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posted May 20, 2006 03:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahhh, venus and neptune, i have the trine aspect and i know exactly what you mean. i tend to paint a really pretty picture for every new relationship i get into and they always get shattered. and i also tend to put my s.o. on a pedestal, only to find out that they are human. sucks really, lol. and what's worst is that i have venus in virgo. i read that if you have a venus/neptune contact and one of the planets is in virgo, the aspect hits twice as hard. did i mention my venus in virgo? that's already difficult alone because venus is in its fall in virgo, AND i have that in retrograde. i think i am officially doomed now. but i digress, so let's get back on topic.
about being too romantic, i don't come off as a very romantic person, must be the sun virgo i guess.
what planets are your venus and neptune in illusions_fool? and what is your aspect? aside from being overly romantic with venus/neptune, i read that this aspect confers talent and possibly genius in the arts, especially music.

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double trouble gemini
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posted May 20, 2006 04:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi illusionf
i understand this dreamy feeling and feel it deeply..
i hav been in serious relationships one for 4 yrs and other for 5yrs and a few other crushes.i never sleept with anyone of them. its not because i dont believe in sex b4 marriage (pls leave me out of the debate on'all u wanted to know abt men'discussion.i respect everyones personal point of view)
i have no restrictions on how i have to live my life but i have my own emotional reasons for thinking the way i do.
i too feel making love for me for the very first time is a very sacred moment i dont want to experience it with just anyone...i want to b guided through it with the one who i feel is my soulmate, my soulmate is the one i shall choose to share my life with..
he should b very romantic,dreamy abt expressing his love,have a magical hug that can safely lock me n scare away all my insecurities,deep emotions that can make me cry,a love so true so strong so magical that i feel im no longer alive to experince anything else in this world..
with him and only with him i want to exprience the deepth of love..untill the end.(my silly fantasies )
i dont care how i end up ....but i need to fullfill my fantasy..
its been fewyrs since i last broke up...i am single n do feel the need to b loved ,to b held tightly ...but frm my past experiences i realize that i dont want the average boy meets girl and dating story...i want something more deep more meaningful..
i am very much aware that my dreams are far far from reality..but the problem is that i cant stop dreaming, my dreams are very very real and precious to me.i dont want someone to come and wake me up!...i want someone to hold my hand and take me further into a true fairy tale romance....
my heart wont settle for anything less..

i really dont know much abt astrology and what kind of placements make one feel like this ...but its not easy to find a partner.i keep wondering what kind of aspects in a mans chart will fulfill my expectations...

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sue g
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posted May 20, 2006 05:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune conj Venus in Scorpio in the 7th house....oh dear....love, love, love.....

Three husbands on, I am still ever hopeful of finding that place I so wanna be in.....

And I am told that I will get there....with a little patience....

B R I N G I T O N.......

xxx

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illusions_fool
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posted May 20, 2006 05:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm relieved to hear there are others, but is everyone with a Cinderella Complex doomed in romance? Because, if so, then I might be better off never getting into any kind of relationships [and, no, I've never had a relationship before] and spare my feelings. I fear there will never be a man who wishes for the same kind of relationship that I do, who hasn't already had sex with someone else [especially because today, too many people are so casual about sex] and hasn't already given up half his heart to another in a past relationship. That's probably too much to ask of anybody... I just keep wishing for it though.

Ciao, I have Venus in Aries at 8* in my 1st House square Neptune in Capricorn at 9* in my 10th House. And I do participate a lot in the arts [drawing, painting, singing, I play piano, ect.].

~Rebekka

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Lauren
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posted May 20, 2006 06:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus trine Neptune also, and Mars is conjunct Neptune. I think Neptune on DC adds a lot to the whole fairy tale thing also. Mine is on DC. I'm glad this is in Capricorn, a realistic sign.. and I'm glad Mars is there, exalted.. to keep Neptune in check. I want the fairy tale, but not enough to ignore reality. There are certain things that matter to me much more right now.

I’m 20 now, but when I was younger, from about 10 – 17 or so, I was very lost in my fairy tale idea. But something happened to jog me out of it. I got the most perfect, fairy tale- like beginning you could imagine, which ended, well, *not* so fairy tale like.. It shocked me enough to jog me out of being that dreamy, ever again.

I see the beauty in realistic, boring day to day life these days. Somehow it's much better than I initially thought it would be. Fairy tales are so volatile. When you try to live a fairytale you ignore the cracks to the extent where they come bk to bite you when you least expect, and with Neptune these aren’t necessarily small things.. but can be pretty huge mountains of negative stuff that were completely covered in a thick fog to start. Besides, realistically there are very few *strong bond* fairy tale-like love stories, historically, which ended well. I think the whole infatuation with *that* kind of love comes from it’s rarity and the fact that it doesn’t last.. If it didn’t end bad, it’d lose it’s charm quickly and gradually die down. So it’s always either forbidden, unrequited or simply impossible. In fact I don’t think it would become that kind of love in the first place it wasn’t under pressure for one reason or another.

If it ended well and ppl got married or became a couple, the cracks would start to show and that insanely intense love feeling, would gradually morph into a more placid, familiar sort of love. And then it wouldn’t be a fairy tale. This is why all fairy tales end with “and they lived happily ever after”. You can have a fairy tale in real life all the way up to the end, when it turns into “and they broke up, got hurt, eventually moved on and lived both sadly and happily ever after with other ppl”.

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Venus De Milo
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posted May 20, 2006 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the conjunction at 19 of Sag in the 3rd house. The conjunction is exactly sextile my 1st house Pluto at 19 of Libra... and Venus is also my chart ruler (Libra rising).

Every love experience I've had has been an experience of dreamlike idealizing and being idealized.... and it's very hurtful because the crash to reality goes both ways... and when someone has put you on that pedestal and then goes through the realization that you're only human, well... disappointing some with YOUR REAL SELF is always hard to take. I try very hard in all areas of life not to judge, and when I love, I try to do so unconditionally... I try to accept others flaws and shortcomings... and we all have them, nobody is perfect.

But it's so heartwrenching when someone suddenly questions your worthiness because you aren't as perfect as they thought, or the reality of the relationship isn't what they dreamed.

I too succumb to idealizing my partners, I can't help it, when I'm in love, I feel completely drunk on that person. Under a spell. They truly look like the most beautiful, sexiest, smartest, kindest man that ever lived. But I'm evolved enough to realize that NOBODY is flawless. I've come to expect cracks in the veneer.

It's just hard to be held to such a standard that you can't possibly live up to... and thats been my experience and the "why" a lot of my relationships have broken up. I can't live up to an ideal.

I feel in the past, the real me has disappointed or made people feel disillusioned... and then I'm taken for granted, treated with contempt... the latter I'm talking about my marriage. he was so contempuous of me in the end. And so paranoid and insistent that he was "better" than me (deeply insecure).

I really believe it can be a blessing, because for me, the Venus/Neptune spawns an idealized, dreamlike, magical enchantment to begin with... and I've been able to parlay that magic into unconditional love, forgiveness, kindredness... I don't expect anyone to be perfect and I'm not disappointed by their flaws. I've had some wonderful experiences from it and learned so much, I feel.

Anyhow... thats my buck fifty on the matter!

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mysticaldream
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posted May 20, 2006 07:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sue G, I have Venus conj Neptune in Scorpio, too but mine are first house conj Ascendant; interesting.
I can relate to a degree with what everyone has written so far. Illusion, I have had to modify my idea what I want and what makes a "perfect" relationship. Like Ciao, I always started out putting someone on a pedastal.........and wait, it doesn't happen ALL the time because I am so chosey and you don't find the kind of man I WANT to put on a pedastal every day you know; and then, inevitably, they would fall off and leave me back at square one. I had what I thought was THE perfect relationship with whom I thought was THE perfect man who treated me just like the princess I think I am (just kidding, well maybe...). That ended SO badly, (badly in really hard feelings on both sides........I finally forgave him but he still hates me) ANYWAY, it forced me to face reality about myself and life in general. Yes, I still think I'm Cinderella; yes, I still want a prince; I just try to add some reality to the mix now

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Iqhunk
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posted May 20, 2006 07:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<<Yes, I still think I'm Cinderella; yes, I still want a prince >>
Thats the spirit!

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mysticaldream
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posted May 20, 2006 08:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
morning, Tameem,
If there are still princes in India, I can have confidence there are a few in America, too.

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alanabelle86
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posted May 20, 2006 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm like that.. only I hide it to the world and act like I don't care, when the truth is that I'm OBSESSED


My chart ruler is Venus and it's in my 1st house.

Neptune rules my 5th house

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taurean_scorpion
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posted May 20, 2006 12:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune in the 7th house,
and sometimes i think of the perfect relationship (like a fairytale)...but my Venus Opposition Saturn, and Moon in Scorpio in the '6th' doesn't allow it....i am too realistic or should i say cynical, for my own good.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer

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posted May 20, 2006 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Chimes in*
Venus conjunct Neptune in the fifth. Trine Ascendant
* can't see through these rose coloured glasses*

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posted May 20, 2006 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got the same as Sue. Venus conjunct Neptune in the 7th.

Venus Conjunct Neptune
"When all is said and done, your sense of love and art is highly evolved, or is in the process of evolving to a higher level. This does mean that you are very idealistic in your love life or where your creations are concerned. Seeking the exquisite and blissful can mean many a disillusionment as loved ones fall from grace, showing themselves to be the mere mortals that they are. Be that as it may, your refined senses serve as an inspiration to others. That you practice, or possibly excel in, some form of artistic or spiritual expression is very likely - or very important, because such is a more suitable means of giving form to your vision of a better world than merely a hopeless romantic. In any event, love the one you are with - with all your heart and soul." (The Instant Astrologer)

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posted May 20, 2006 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unless I missed it I don't see the opposition represented. So... I will,-> Sun & Venus in Taurus [combust] opp. Neptune in Scorpio. Mercury is chart ruler. It is interesting to note that the opposition works in similar ways. Or perhaps my moon Trine Neptune supports the mystical ideology of the fantasy. The fantasy is all important.

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DayDreamer
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posted May 21, 2006 01:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got the same as Sue and AG...Venus conjunct Neptune in the 7th...in late Sag.

Im aware of the rose coloured glasses and all. I have to be on high alert, since Neptune squares my Moon. It also squares Saturn, and even though it's a square it helps I think in bringing me back down to earth.

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posted May 21, 2006 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in the 7th House
You look for sensitivity and idealism in others - or one other in particular. You project on to your partner all those things that you long for in a mate. This can only too easily give rise to your having great love affairs that are followed by equally great disappointments. Furthermore, your partner becomes like a drug to you, for you are addicted to them and suffer very painful withdrawal symptoms when your "supply" is threatened or terminated.

It is of vital importance that you find some kind of "cure" -otherwise you could be doomed to be a "social junkie." That cure is in your realization that you yourself are carrying around within your psyche that ideal human being. The people that you long for and are fatally attracted to seem to be supremely gifted and so you worship them, or they are in some way afflicted and seem to need your help.

In either case, you can often wind up feeling the victim in a relationship. The more you find the artist, mystic, healer, musician, visionary, or transcendental in yourself, then the more you will be able to relate to your partner as an ordinary human being with ordinary talents and failings.

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WaterNymph
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posted May 22, 2006 09:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I know Venus and Neptune have a lot to do with romance and love, but what about being too romantic and idealistic in issues of the heart? What placements and aspects have a strong influence on the people who want fairytale romances [like myself]? I mean, I'm sure I'm not the only one in the world who wants their first kiss to be with their one and only soulmate, the person they're destined to meet and be with forever. Or their first experience with sex to be with their soulmate. To marry who fate has already set aside for eachother and to not divorce with this special person. And hope that the other person waits for them too, to experience all their firsts with their special someone. And basically, like I said, have that fairytale romance!
Does anyone else feel this way too ?

wooow

I have the square, tho I’m not that bad know how you feel tho, lovers seem flawless in your eyes. But once the fairy dust disappears you’re like “wtf am I doing with this weirdo?”

ahhh love haha

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heart cakes
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posted October 26, 2007 10:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just thought i would bump this one up..

i have venus conjunct neptune. actually, my ascendant is my venus-neptune midpoint. i feel destined to be a romantic fool and it seems to govern all of my social interactions. it is a little bit trippy for me because i am living on my neptune-ascendant line and i am experiencing a lot of psychic awareness of people on top of feeling like they idealize me as i idealize them which is a LOT to sort through in my mind!!! consequently, i have become a bit of a hermit lately and am contemplating moving even.. since it can all be a bit much.

anyone else have venus-neptune conjunctions or strong aspects and want to talk?

also, i am an artist and all of my art is very dreamlike.. always has been. interesting how that works!

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posted October 26, 2007 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus square Neptune is what I have and there are times when it's tough to see potential romantic partners in a clear and visible way...idealization is so heavy, I have to stand back and ask others around me how it looks or sounds about a situation. Sometimes the pedestal is too high and the fall is quite a rude awakening. It gets really old after awhile, and I wish I didn't have that nagging need to find my other half of me or 'soulmate' to feel more complete...I am tired of caring and hurting and caring and hurting.

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

I "FEEL" therefor I am

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LeoCat
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posted October 27, 2007 02:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Illusion I think that sounds beautiful. Sounds right up my alley :-)

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SexyScorp103
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posted October 27, 2007 07:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sigh, I'm an idealistic-in-love dreamer too Venus in 4th in Libra, squares my neptune in capricorn, in the 6th at 2 degrees.
...alanabelle, taht sounds exactly like me - i hide it for the life of me lol

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