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Iqhunk
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posted June 05, 2007 11:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi MoonDreamer,
Every possible Karma aspect has been discussed in the complete string. Pls read it, if I tell you this one aspect, you wont learn about the others.

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darkdreamer
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posted June 05, 2007 11:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQhunk,

ah, you`re a real teacher.
Teaching others to think for themselves, insted of becoming too dependent on the answers you can give.

DD

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Iqhunk
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posted June 05, 2007 12:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many times, the same people who used to ask questions and then suddenly started to think for themselves end up giving far superior answers. Lets say I just want to see these better answers. Look at Izo, Diandra and yourself for instance. 300% astrological investigative improvement in 3 weeks . I am very proud of Diandra
because she used her quick wits to give us an easy way of calculating Draconic Charts using the Arabic Parts calculator program in www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php

Up until now I was number crunching to get the Draconics!


So me a teacher? Never!!!
Teach has "Cheat" in it
When we teach, we cheat others out of the pleasure of discovering for themselves.
The "Aha!" or "Eureka!" effect on one's own can be better than sex (Sometimes ).

"Principal Investigator" and "Thought Stimulator" is what I like to think of myself as.

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MoonDreamer81
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posted June 05, 2007 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok thanks IQ!I just didn't think the multi-conjunction would have been discussed,like a single conjunction would.I'm goin to look now!I'm still waitin on you to publish that asteroid book!

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Diandra23
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posted June 05, 2007 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iqunk dont be so proud of me please.

It was Izo who had that idea and said to others like me- to use the arabic part calculater and put the 0º0Áries in the 1st part - she´s the one wwho deserves the credits!


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Diandra23
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posted June 05, 2007 12:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iqunk dont be so proud of me please.

It was Izo who had that idea and said to others like me- to use the arabic part calculater and put the 0º0Áries in the 1st part - she´s the one wwho deserves the credits!


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Iqhunk
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posted June 05, 2007 12:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, so I am proud of both of you!

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izodesmozina
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posted June 05, 2007 01:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YAY!!!
Diandra, we are graduating with big grades!!!
This feels soooo good coming from you, Iq! But don't be modest! You are our teacher - our spiritual teacher more than anything! And we admire your high ethics . I think I speak for all of us here when I say we are all very proud to have been in contact with you!!

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Diandra23
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posted June 05, 2007 01:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is for you Iq from all of us:

"Then said a teacher, "Speak to us of Teaching."

And he said:

No man can reveal to you aught but that which already lies half asleep in the dawning of our knowledge.

The teacher who walks in the shadow of the temple, among his followers, gives not of his wisdom but rather of his faith and his lovingness.

If he is indeed wise he does not bid you enter the house of wisdom, but rather leads you to the threshold of your own mind.

The astronomer may speak to you of his understanding of space, but he cannot give you his understanding.

The musician may sing to you of the rhythm which is in all space, but he cannot give you the ear which arrests the rhythm nor the voice that echoes it.

And he who is versed in the science of numbers can tell of the regions of weight and measure, but he cannot conduct you thither.

For the vision of one man lends not its wings to another man.

And even as each one of you stands alone in God's knowledge, so must each one of you be alone in his knowledge of God and in his understanding of the earth. "

Khalil Gibran

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posted June 05, 2007 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww Diandra, that's beautiful! I love Khalil!

I just had to put my thanks in here too. I never want to miss the opportunity to do that if I can help it!

IQ...I have learned more of the "deeper meanings" of astrology since I've been on this site from you and the others than I have learned from books in 20 years! It's true that you do inspire us all to work hard and find the answers. We love getting your reassurance as well, as we learn.

Thank you...and everyone...for this great experience here at L.L.! It's great to know that there are others searching like me all over the planet. You're all AMAZING people!!!!

8th Moon

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Diandra23
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posted June 05, 2007 02:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Iqhunk
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posted June 06, 2007 03:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It works like a magnetic chain. I learnt a lot from from Tim, Zala, Sue, Betelgeuse, Noreen, 26Taurus, Hexxie, AJ, Peri, William, Randall and Fayte. Whatever extra I could learn, I like to quickly post it for others to take it from there. Everybody gains.

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venusdeindia
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posted June 06, 2007 07:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi guys,
there is a much simpler way t6o calculate draconics, go to http://ephemeral.info

they have amazing options
u can calculate natal, declination, draco, positions all at once for planets as well as asteroids.their list of asteroids is pretty comprehensive.
also u can download the free version of
ASTROWIN, it has a feature to calculate Draco and compare it with natal

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izodesmozina
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posted June 06, 2007 10:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tomorrow Karma will be at 28deg34 Aries, conjuncting OUR composite Karma (and in our natals, my Mars and his NN). I am afraid to think what might happen. Transiting Karma conjuncts his NN and sextiles my NN! Something... karmic is gonna happen.
**and like that wasn't enough these days transiting Saturn aka "the Lord of Karma" is squaring our composite Ascendant and Saturn...
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Iqhunk
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posted June 06, 2007 12:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Venus,
Thanks for the link!

Hi Ana,
That which is best will happen or be set in motion. You just have to be aware that something karmic is happening. No matter what, it is in the best interests of your evolution.

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izodesmozina
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posted June 06, 2007 02:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that, on a spiritual level, it is in my best interest... but sometimes it is hard to accept this on a mind level. I also discovered that transiting NN will soon conjunct my Juno at 10.15 Pisces. It recently squared his Juno.
I found this... I wrote it on the "asteroid Maria" thread and I'd like your opinion on it, whenever you have the time. Thank you so much for all your insight on this!

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You and your soul mate have more cosmic interplay design than any other couple I have studied. Why has it not culminated into a happy marriage is something beyond my understanding.

I know...
Remember that Saturn opposition to Union from my chart? Well, I think this is where it plays out...
However, I have found a similar pattern in his chart, regarding this. I don't know if you remember, but I have ANUBIS conjunct SATURN and they both oppose my UNION. My guy has a similar thing with his JUNO: JUNO conjunct SATURN and opposing his ANUBIS... Well, both Juno and Union point to the same thing, kind of... Do you think this indicates a karmic partnership, a love that goes beyond death [in both our natal charts]? We also have that Karma - Part Of Marriage dw, Kaali-Part Of Marriage dw, Union - NN dw, asteroid Fortuna conjunct Sun double-whammy [in synastry]... This is TOO fated!!

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izodesmozina
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posted June 06, 2007 06:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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darkdreamer
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posted June 07, 2007 04:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Izo,

seems you got your menage a trois there.
But seriously, I am amazed at how clear the universe is in your case. There`s nothing vague about it, is it?
And it seems your three destinies are very tightly connected to each other. Maybe you`ve had a menage a trois in a past life? Or two of you were in love and the third party tried to come between you?

You said the quinkunx is a karmic aspect. Could you explain this to me?

DD

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venusdeindia
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posted June 07, 2007 05:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i underestimated asteroids until recently, but IQ i must tell u u have hit a big one here. u should really write a proper book, the least u deserve, also a book on the net if u want , but ur work deserves recognition.

on asteroid Karma, there are no karmic links between my chart and that of my parents, no nodallinks , no saturn, no Pluto.
but then in draco here is the shock


my Dad's Draco KARMA 17 Pisces conjuncts my Draco sun at 17 Pisces and Natal Asc at 16 Pisces!my mom's Draco Valentine is at 16 Pisces and Draco Venus at 19 Pisces!1

now that is some Group Karmaa!!



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izodesmozina
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posted June 07, 2007 05:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is something about the quincunx aspect:
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Quincunxes often influence health and financial matters. It is also believed that this Aspect has karmic lessons to teach us. Along those lines, an extension of the quincunx is the Yod, also referred to as the 'Finger of God.' In this little-known configuration, considered the most fated in Astrology, two planets which are sextiling (a sixty-degree Aspect) each other are in communion with a third planet which rests opposite the midpoint of the sextile. These three planets would then form the letter 'Y' in the heavens (draw it for yourself and you'll see). The third planet, effectively at the bottom of the 'Y' figure, is the trigger point of the Yod. This very fated configuration adds great emphasis to the quincunx and speaks to significant lessons and issues to be overcome.

And here is a link about karmic stuff: http://karma.astrology.com/quinandsemi.html

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Iqhunk
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posted June 07, 2007 05:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is much to write about Group Karma.

DD is right, Izo her friend and her soul mate did have past life love triangles and they are playing out now.

This is where conscious awareness and meditation must be used to burn off the negative debts so that a more rewarding life comes forth. The fatedness of the charts will wear out on our realization that we can change our destiny by more good karmic acts.

I have much to write in my book. I cannot seek recognition for it, the best reward is when all my investigations work accurately for everyone interested in astrology.
Recognition = Ego = Knowledge Loss.

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izodesmozina
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posted June 07, 2007 06:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I cannot seek recognition for it, the best reward is when all my investigations work accurately for everyone interested in astrology.
Recognition = Ego = Knowledge Loss.

I understand where you're coming from. I think is very noble of you.

Well, the multicomposite of the 3 of us sure left me unable to breathe for a few seconds...

Karma, Mars and Amor all 3 at 20* Pisces; Anubis and Hekate both at 20* Cancer, while Siva was at 23* Scorpio... making for a twisted, occult, water Grand Trine... [natally, he has Cupido at 20* Scorpio and I have Psyche at 23* Scorp...]
Actually, looking at it again I see VESTA at 23* Taurus ~ so it's a kite, not a grand trine... I think this might be our way out of this situation, because VESTA plays a huge role in all of our natal charts!!
Sacrifices...

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girlloveboy
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posted June 07, 2007 06:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Izo

Thats really frightening...so much karma stuff here...
If you would like, i can show your sinastry chart to my mother(she's an astrologer and really great in sinastries though she doesn't use asteroids)

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Iqhunk
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posted June 07, 2007 07:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Truly fascinating group Karma. I feel you will get him the moment he comprehends what is best for him. I am quite positive that you both will be united in this lifeline after your Saturn return. Should you sacrifice him, you will get someone better, even thought the aspects wont match.

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izodesmozina
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posted June 07, 2007 07:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Wow! Thank you so much, Girlloveboy! That is so very nice of you!! And double WOW on having an astrologer Mom! I bet that's a wonderful experience!!
I do not know how much painful truths I can take, but I might as well find out... I can't post our birth data here, but if you write me at *****, I will send you all the info you need. Thank you so much for your offer!


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