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posted June 07, 2006 12:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a single mom of a special needs child with Global developmental delay and I'm not sure where in her chart I could find it. I suppose it could be saturn conj her sun in her chart. Some of the time I think it's her cancer planets that hold he back - on an emotional front cause she is soooooo sensitive and get very upset with her daily routine of putting on her clothes, cleaning up etc......

She really reminds me of myself when I was young.

June 12'02 114 W 51 N 11 AM

Any insights would be appreciated..and thanx ahead of time

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posted June 09, 2006 10:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not sure what it meant by "global developmental delay". Looking at the chart, I see a very bright child, but one whose real gifts are being blocked by expectations..... Now, please do not think that is criticism of you! It is not you, it is the world.

Your child is one of the "New Kids"--almost certainly a Crystal Child. These children often have speech delays because, being telepathic they do not realize that the adults in their world are not. Notice whether your child responds to what you want from her.

I strongly recommend that you go to the web site for Doreen Virtue--she has written about these children. The "New Kids" are an advancement on humanity--a step up in the evolutionary process. They are much more mature beings than oder generations, but face the difficulty of being adults in the bodies of children, and being in a society which makes their differences wrong.

This chart looks more "frustrated" than disabled. I suspect that a different doctor is needed--one who is not so determined to measure your daughter by a standard that is at least 100 years old--and completely obsolete!

Take heart, dear one, and trust. Follow your own intuition/instincts. This child chose you for a reason.

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posted June 09, 2006 01:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<<<Your child is one of the "New Kids"--almost certainly a Crystal Child. These children often have speech delays because, being telepathic they do not realize that the adults in their world are not. Notice whether your child responds to what you want from her.>>>
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lovely*
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posted June 09, 2006 01:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really take a good look at her diet. Is it rich in omegas? Do you supplement with vitamins. Is she getting enough water? Many problems can be solved with proper nutrition. I've seen an 90% improvement in my own daughter, who is also a gem and a Gem

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posted June 09, 2006 08:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ty All for answering

Crystal Child/New Kid.......Would that be like an indigo child? Cause my friend has told me to look into that.

Omega diet....can you please be more specific. She is thirsty and hungry all the time. I'm very strict with sweet stuff for her. (She still has candy from Halloween ..lol). She is extremely picky about her food - even with my cooking and I have cooked professionally and hold a cooking diploma )

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I read a bit about a crystal indigo child - maybe she chose me cause I'm really new age or soemthing......

My Chart info

Sun Aries 13°15'06 11 direct
Moon Cancer 24°50'58 02/3 direct
Moon is technically near the end of house 2 and is interpreted in house 3.
Mercury Taurus 01°40'56 12 direct
Venus Pisces 06°03'13 10 direct
Mars Capricorn 13°14'49 08 direct
Jupiter Sagittarius 06°15'38 06 retrograde
Saturn Taurus 20°31'02 12 direct
Uranus Libra 11°27'27 05 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 02°50'55 06 retrograde
Pluto Virgo 27°57'57 05 retrograde
True Node Aquarius 22°24'42 10 direct


House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Gemini 19°54'56
2nd House Cancer 07°54'13
3rd House Cancer 24°51'03
Imum Coeli Leo 14°46'51
5th House Virgo 13°10'48
6th House Libra 28°29'28
Descendant Sagittarius 19°54'56
8th House Capricorn 07°54'13
9th House Capricorn 24°51'03
Medium Coeli Aquarius 14°46'51
11th House Pisces 13°10'48
12th House Aries 28°29'28

Major aspects
Sun Square Mars 0°00
Sun Trine Jupiter 6°59
Sun Opposition Uranus 1°48
Sun Sextile Ascendant 6°40
Moon Square Mercury 6°50
Moon Sextile Saturn 4°20
Moon Trine Neptune 8°00
Moon Sextile Pluto 3°07
Mercury Sextile Venus 4°22
Mercury Quincunx Neptune 1°10
Venus Square Jupiter 0°12
Venus Square Neptune 3°12
Mars Square Uranus 1°47
Jupiter Sextile Uranus 5°12
Jupiter Conjunction Neptune 3°25
Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°53


(Bugaboo's moon is conj mars and juppy.....it would show that her mom is an aries... .....It's quite interesting to see some of the stuff I passed down to her....


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posted June 09, 2006 08:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ID, I have a sister who is autistic - and I've tried & tried to figure out where in her chart this is indicated - to no avail. I've come to the conclusion that it is beyond Astrology. She does exhibit the qualities that one would expect from her chart - She's a Virgo, with a Libra moon & loves to draw for hours(although, she always draws only stick people, just her family & the people at her I.L. home - over & over again - sometimes, imaginary people), loves music and has a large C.D. collection, wants specific CD from each of us every Christmas, birthday, Easter - whenever it's gift-giving time, hates her routine to be interupted (should have seen her that time it snowed in July - man, she was Pi$$ed!! lol..) Has specific questions she asked everybody she meets, such as "what color are your pajamas?" "what color are your plastic curtains?" (shower curtains)"when is your birthday?" (and she never forgets it either) - then, she'll ask you to make faces, and when you do, she laughes & rubs her eyes. EVERY TIME - she's too funny.

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posted June 10, 2006 12:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lioneye~ LOL she sounds like a delightful person.

ID, is she a good water drinker? My opinion is you need to totally restrict her diet to nothing but clean food. Nothing processed and when I say Omegas I'm referring to cod liver oil, high fat low mercury fish such as salmon.

Kids usually like fish sticks. Being a cook, you could probably dip some chunks of fish in a little egg wash and breadcrumbs & bake them at 350 for 25 min. Offer her high protein foods with any carby type meal or snack. Let protein be the leader.

If she always complains of being hungry I bet she is a fast metabolizer of carbs which means she burns through them too quickly adn then needs more to keep her sugars/energy up.

If she is thirsty this tells me too much salt or artificial preservatives, not enough potassium perhaps. If you give her apple juice her thirst will never feel satiated.

You could check with the health forum here for other ideas, but I would start with the natural approach first. Doctors are often trying to further thier research dollars and love to give diagnoses. As Rev Alice said, follow your [God-given mother's] intuition. It won't fail you.

BerryKeen is a nice fruit flavored fish oil I add to my dear daughters OJ (low sugar OJ..it's the only time she gets juice)..she resisted at first but then she got into the habit. I had to offer rewards (bribes) to drink it initially. You basically have to fortify what they're eating and wean them off bad stuff and offer bad stuff (hotdogs/chicken fingers/french fries) on weekends or once a week.

It's difficult because I have a picky eater but I promise you will see results once you straighten out her eating. Start with the supplements and the desire for good food will follow.

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posted June 10, 2006 12:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dont wory ID,
she'll be fine, i asure u....
when i was her age, even i was very upset with the daily mundane things-getting up, goin to school etc...even tried to feign illness...
all this while i felt i was trapped in my body...i understood everything the adults felt n felt like one of them. i never whinned or cried like a normal child would.
even my mom says that i was born adult.
i got to know then i had my escape route in my imagination, which helped me alot.
at the age of three only i could identify countires of the world in a map n understood many theories like plate techtonics,etc.
have u exposed her to watching tv progs related to new scientific ideas or maybe sci fi stuff, or try buying her books related to unusual topics which stirr her imagination...it worked for me, maybe it can work for her too.
tc

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Inner depths
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posted June 10, 2006 03:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lovely
- I usually try to get her to drink more water and have cut down majorly on the juice. Sometimes she'll touch milk.

I cooked some salmon for her the other night and she turned her nose up at it. Anything fish dish she doesn't seem to like - however she will eat cocktail shrimp.

For breakfast she will have some yogurt, cereal, toast, fruit smoothy.....the list goes on.or she will refuse breakfast. On Saturday mornings, for a treat I will make her pancakes - cause it's her fav.

I usually will make grain bread sandwixhes with cheese and ham or corned beef. She has a juice box and the preschool gives her water and a snack.

Suppetime I cook a variety of things and most of the time she turn her nose up at the food....sigh....

I usually don't have any probs weaning her off of stuff.....


Sugar_Buns
- I think my daughter plays sick, possibly to get out of stuff or crys to go home...(to go see her dad and she does the same thing to him)....

Most of the time she thinks she the boss and will try to "scold" me back - it's funny seeing her finger wave at me.

I'm trying to get her into music and I think she is still young to watch science shows......but i shall keep it in mind.....he father is a huge sci fi nut....

Thank you all

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posted June 10, 2006 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroleolady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Inner,

Your daughter's 6th house ruler (health, habits, daily routine, food, diet) is Saturn (Capricorn), which is conjunct her Chart ruler (1st house cusp), the Sun (Leo) (personality, self expression) in the 10th house naturally ruled by Capricorn/Saturn in a flat chart. Saturn is constriction and delay and thus this aspect may be affecting her diet, health and development, possibly speech development and motor skill development of her hands and arms with this aspect taking place in Gemini. Gemini also rules the nervous system, so it maybe affected as well.

The Sun/Saturn conjunction is further slowed by the retrograde Pluto (generation, slow growth, isolation) opposition from her 4th house (childhood, foundation).

She also has Saturn (restriction, delay, limits) conjuncting her North Node (life purpose, evolution).

Her sensitivity comes from having 4 planets in Cancer (Moon, Venus, Mars and Jupiter) and her Neptune in the 6th house. Neptune in the 6th can indicate allergies to foods, drugs, dyes, colourants, and perfumes and difficult to diagnose illnesses. Dreaminess and solitude are indicated. She should like music, poetry and to help others.

Her Neptune is inconjunct her Moon/Mars conjunction in Cancer adding sensitivity, touchiness, moodiness, emotionalism, and irritableness to her daily routine and all 6th house matters.

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She is thirsty and hungry all the time.


Has your daughter been checked for Type 1 Diabetes? I'm not saying that she has it, but hunger and thirst are classic symptoms of it, so you may want to look into it with your doctor if you haven't before. She does has her Venus (sugar, sweets) in Cancer (glandular secretions). Mercury the general ruler of all hormones (Insulin) is also square her Uranus.

Hope this helps and good luck to her.

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posted June 10, 2006 09:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
ID, I have a sister who is autistic - and I've tried & tried to figure out where in her chart this is indicated - to no avail. I've come to the conclusion that it is beyond Astrology. She does exhibit the qualities that one would expect from her chart - She's a Virgo, with a Libra moon & loves to draw for hours(although, she always draws only stick people, just her family & the people at her I.L. home - over & over again - sometimes, imaginary people), loves music and has a large C.D. collection, wants specific CD from each of us every Christmas, birthday, Easter - whenever it's gift-giving time, hates her routine to be interupted (should have seen her that time it snowed in July - man, she was Pi$$ed!! lol..) Has specific questions she asked everybody she meets, such as "what color are your pajamas?" "what color are your plastic curtains?" (shower curtains)"when is your birthday?" (and she never forgets it either) - then, she'll ask you to make faces, and when you do, she laughes & rubs her eyes. EVERY TIME - she's too funny.

hey lioneye, I have a sibling who's autistic too! He is 19 years old and can barely talk, and he is a little difficult at times, but he is a great kid! Your sister does sounds a little bit like my brother.

I've been trying to find things in my brother's chart that might show a disability, but I'd have to know the time before discovering anything. He is a Sagittarius with Moon in Cancer, Mercury in Sagittarius, and Venus in Scorpio, but I don't know his time of birth so I can't find anything yet.

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sun/mercury in taurus, moon in leo, scorpio rising, venus/mars in pisces

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posted June 10, 2006 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The burning question I've been wanting to ask is: can we see mental disorders, psychiatric hospitalizations, chronic, severe, the-being-labelled-by-mental-health-professionals-as-"untreatable" major depression, suicide attempts, and complete suicides, even the type or the nature of suicides...in a person's natal chart?

My dear fellow knowflake, I am definitely getting back to you with the details about what I see in and what I think about your child's birth chart when I have more time- tomorrow, say. I have to go to bed real soon, unfortunately. Just to be sure:

Your daughter was born on 12 June, 2002, at 11AM, right? And what the name of the place in which she was born? Which city/state is it in? Sorry that I can't read the seemingly altitude and longitude thing.

Love&Light to your little girl.

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May not be able to get back to you...appreciate your say nevertheless...D

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posted June 10, 2006 10:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Calgary, Alberta, Canada

My daughter reminds me of myself - it's scary as all can be. never thought she'd be like me. She got the depth of emotion and is nuturing. (I didn't start to talk till I was 4 - but I'm naturally a quiet person......

I have a 6th house Neppy - and with my Daughter's Neppy in the 6th I have no clue as to what she is allergic to yet. For myself I didn't know what my allergies were till I was around 24 and has an allergy test done.

Ty for the interps

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posted June 10, 2006 02:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a wonderful response!

Indigos came first, some in the early 70s, many during the 80s, and early 90s. Around 1995, they began to be followed by the Crystals. In essence, the Indigos are "systems busters" and more assertive, while the Crystals are peacemakers. As such, they have a habit of dealing with resistance by ignoring it--hence the tendency of the medical profession to think them autistic or hearing impaired.

I definitely agree with the dietary suggestions and water. The other thing to know is that both Indigos and Crystals need to "graze"--meaning have healthy food for nearly constant snacking, as opposed to insisting on the 3-meals-a-day rule.

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It has taken two years to diagnose my adult son. He presented some neurological tremors and speech delays as a baby.. last year, after many years of asking doctors and tests... I thought he had Aspergers syndrome... He was born in the early 80's and I had not heard of Aspergers or Dyspraxia until I went to Scotland and "synchronistically" heard a radio program documentary. From that point it was me telling doctors, rather than asking them... and even then it took ages for anyone to formally stick their neck out and write an official medical opinion.. which, unfortunately counts when you are trying to get help.

He went through grade school with doctors telling me I was being fussy when I drew their attention to his speech delays and tremors.... now he is 22 and diagnosed with high functioning autism. Which presents usually as an introspective persona whereas the aspergas are talkative and outgoing...

He is naturally a computer wiz and an amazing artist, but socially dependent and it is early days on how to best help him come into his own power. I tried the omega 3 supplement and also removed gluten and dairy.. white sugar and as much of all sugars as I can.

All I can say is, our children are our best teachers. They are perfect the way they are. Dont rely on the medical professions to help a lot.. usually you will find support from amazing people in the satellite areas of care. Love to you

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posted June 12, 2006 12:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ID, juice boxes are enemy 1. I fooled myslef into believing they were good because they had no added sugar and were 100% organic, but the body doesn't know the difference between that and 2 tablespoons of pure cane sugar.

Unless you start fish when they are toddlers, you have to trick them into eatting it. Even if you have to water down some ketchup for her to dip it in. Have you tried Cod?

I love yogurt and so does my daughter, it's a decent source of calcium, protein and lactobacillus acidophilus (helpful bacteria) however, be sure you're not negating the benefits by offering her the "fruit on the bottom" type. Rather, buy some [organic] plain yogurt and drizzel some honey and top with berries. you can grind some almonds and sprinkle also.

As far as her lunches.. does she like turkey or chicken salad (for convenience you can buy already cooked whole chicken..cube it, etc.) Pita bread with almond butter and fruit spread is popular with my daughter; send her with some rice milk instead of juice~ she will end up loving it (especially the vanilla flavored)

Ham and corned beef are full of salt unfortunately. I love them both but.. depending on what product you choose they can also have added sodium nitrates, a salty preservative.

ID, you are doing a good job. I only know some of this stuff because I've had to totally re-evaluate my own family's diet. SO don;t take my ideas as preachy or somehow undermining you're choices as a mother. These are just my own reflections..based on my own stuff.

Oh and kids totally play thier parents. Mine can be downright defiant. It's something my husband and I deal with daily.

Also when you mentioned science shows I couldn't help but thinking of the toxcicity of most programs on TV. There is a strong correlation between children who watch television and ADHD. There is a theory that when children are in the formative stages of developement, those who watch TV in excess of 2+ hours a day have often tried to re-create the rapid moving images which are flashed before them. It's not like sitting on the curb and watching a parade go by~ Real life moves more slowly than television.

When you mentioned science shows I was thinking of going into the back yard and planting a seed and watching it grow into something~ Having a 5 year old gemini I know her curiosity is endless.

And we are NEVER too young for music. Sound is healing. Ahhhhhhh.

Good luck with your daughter dear. It's the most tuff job being a mommy, especially a single one. Don't ever forget to take care of YOU!

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posted June 12, 2006 01:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so lovely

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posted June 13, 2006 10:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lovely,

I found my daughter drinks too much juice and so I try and push drinking water.

Sadly my daughter will no even go near fish, no matter what kind of fish or how it's done.

My daughter will eat some yogurts and leave the others alone. She won't eat any berries. fresh strawberries she spits out.

I usually buy 7 grain bread or something like that.

Ah it's still a work in progress here.

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