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writesomething
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posted June 15, 2006 05:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is there a transit for a mental breakdown?

i dont think im on a brink of one...but curious anyway....

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chrissymgreen
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posted June 15, 2006 09:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dear writesomething,

i would say that there's not so much one particular transit that can cause a breakdown; with the exception of an actual physical pre-disposition to such medical conditions as shizophrenia or bipolar disorder, i think that what happens is that there are many kinds of experiences that can be generated under different planetary influences.

for instance, take a heavy pluto transit...let's take a pluto/moon transit. i'm having this one, as i have moon in late sagittarius, so pluto is going to conjunct my moon in january of 2007, and it will stay within orb for i think around 18 months. i'm already feeling the effect of this transit. (due to a tight t-square of moon in late sag, sun in late pisces, and pluto in late virgo, transiting pluto is not only conjuncting my natal moon, it is squaring my sun & pluto as well.)

anyway, pluto/moon is never easy. pluto/moon takes everything we have known, everything that causes security, happiness and comfort, and stomps over it with hobnail boots. the sense of loss when pluto touches the moon can be all-pervasive and overwhelming...it colors the entire consciousness for the time it is around. everything seems like it’s being eaten up and spit out, and furthermore, can’t be replaced. pluto/moon is always a reckoning with the past (moon) that must happen before we can move on—a psychological and emotional cleaning house. we may feel stripped to the bone spiritually, at the end of our understanding. often, with pluto/moon, nothing makes sense.

going a little further, because the conjunction takes place in sag, it may seem at first that freedom and movement forward—and even meaning itself—must be given up. this is a temporary feeling while mental and emotional boundaries are broken and new knowledge incorporated. the oppression and ‘pressure cooker’ feeling of pluto is often accompanied by anhedonia—an inability to experience pleasure. pluto transits to any personal planet can often feel like being buried alive, and this is doubly true when both the lights are involved (this is the case for me, as pluto is conjuncting my moon & squaring my sun). pluto acts as a temporary darkening veil. this is the active response of a consciousness forced to rearrange its way of relating to the world, and is perfectly normal.

so you can see how a heavy pluto transit might cause a breakdown of sorts -- i would be lying if i said that i haven't been experiencing some pretty heavy stuff as of late...and i am having a very hard time experiencing pleasure as well. things have seemed pretty bleak at times, i must admit. i have felt pretty close to a breakdown at times.

another heavy planetary influence to consider is neptune's. again i could use a personal example here: consider a heavy neptune transit to natal venus. that's where i'm at now -- tr neptune is at 19 aqua (i think that's where it's at now) and my natal venus is at 18 aqua. venus is my chart ruler as i have libra rising, so what is happening is that my sense of self is eroding. neptune on the chart ruler invades and dissolves all sense of self. neptune transits herald times of breakdown and sacrifice in the collapse of the arbitrary defenses, assumptions, and expectations that obscure the experience of unity. neptune transits can manifest negatively through a greater frequency of disappointments, disillusionments, and heartbreaks, especially in areas where our expectations have divided us from life as it is.

so you can see too, how neptune experiences could cause some sort of breakdown or some such...it depends of course as always on the natal, if there are indications of isolationist tendencies and heavy use of defense mechanisms than this will be a more likely scenario.


hope this is helpful!


chrissy

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Inner depths
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posted June 15, 2006 12:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmmm....transits for a breakdown....I'm gonna think back to my chart and past transits

1995 I had uranus and neptune both oppose my moon in cancer and at the same time saturn was squaring my ascendant in Gemini.Tough year for me and had a major break-up with my 1st true love. I really thought I lost it many years ago and a breakdown did happen. Everything seemed so clouded and who I was back then was just an illusion. My sense of self was so weak and listening to myself was not in existance. That was the time when I was so easily influenced by stuff around me....

Saturn over one's moon is a toughy too. You work your butt off and are very tired and there may be other things that life throws at you as well. Get plenty of sleep and watch your health....It wears ya down

I have had friend's who had neptune transit their Sun and their world got very confusing.

Transitting Pluto to natal planets, those I;m not too sure - what I have come across is some sort of loss associated to a pluto transit or growth/transformation.

My sister has Pluto sitting on her moon right now and at the moment she is going through major boyfriend issues and just moved away from home. He is a Scorpio and there are some control issues a happening...


Sometimes I think the transits play different with different people.....with some simulairties.


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astro junkie
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posted June 18, 2006 02:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
writesomething -

Then again, what one might expect to be a "breakdown" turns out to be a "breakThrough" - such as how I might be brought down to my knees in tears when a Transit occurs between Moon & Chiron. Like taking medicine without a spoon full of sugar, it is.

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