posted June 21, 2006 10:00 PM              

I believe Donald Trump has saturn and venus conjunct or at least the trine,
he has been married three times and insisted on so many contracts.

My sister has venus in Cap and has always wanted a legal marriage since childhood.

There is something about Saturn that is fascinated with making and breaking contracts.

Saturn in Capricorn translates into agreements, business or otherwise.

So many Sags have Capricorn placements and are good in business, and good with contracts.

Why do you ask, are you blue?

Lioneye you are a Leo and Leos are more focused on true love than contracts, save your agreements for work and business and keep contracts out of love!

posted June 21, 2006 10:07 PM            

Some examples that I have read about:

The 7th house rules marriage, divorce, contracts, lawsuits, and open enemies.

The sign on the cusp of the 7th house - Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius or Aquarius. Planets in the 7th - Mercury, Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto.

Hard aspects to Venus involving Saturn and Uranus. Hard aspects to the planets in the 7th house from Saturn and Uranus.

Ultimately, whether or not divorce will occur will depend upon the transits, progressions and solar returns of the couple.

posted June 21, 2006 10:40 PM              

No, I'm not blue. I've never been married either. But, I think I'm done "keeping my options open", so to speak. The idea of marriage is peeking it's head out in what seems like an inevitable way, and I'm hesitant to do it, only to divorce down the road. I think my Venus trine Saturn is making me consider all possible pitfalls, is all. Not to mention Saturn's current transit through Leo in my 8th house, taking 4 of my personal planets to task.

Astrolady, that does help and it doesn't lol...I have Gemini on the 7th house cusp, and my Virgo has Aquarius there. But, come think of it, I have heard that about Gemini on the 7th house cusp before. Also, it can indicate 2 marriages. But, so far that hasn't been the case for me. I haven't even gotten one under my belt yet.

I feel somewhat ambivelant about marriage, yet I respect it greatly. Maybe I just feel ambivalent about it for MYSELF. Don't know if I trust myself to honor it "till death do us part". Eek. That sounds so final. lol..

posted June 21, 2006 11:45 PM              

We can do a case study on my chart if you want...lol. I think Saturn in 7th House might be a culprit. According to cafeastrology this placement often brings karmic marriage in which people tend to bring out the worst in each other. That is very true, speaking from experience. I guess, theoretically you supposed to learn from it and move to the next phase of relationship but I was not that good of a student...lol...and dropped the subject all together.

Personally, I don't see Venus trine Saturn as something negative. I think, it would more likely mean late marriage than divorce. It also a sign of a good parent

posted June 22, 2006 01:56 AM            

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Personally, I don't see Venus trine Saturn as something negative. I think, it would more likely mean late marriage than divorce. It also a sign of a good parent.

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posted June 22, 2006 09:04 AM            

Something interesting.. My husband's Juno is in my 7th house...(Aquarius)
My Juno conjuncts his Uranus in his MC ( My IC).. kind of conflicting energies there...

posted June 22, 2006 11:14 AM              

Kamilla, the late marriage idea is fitting. Most people are on their 2nd marriage by the time they're 37, but oh no...not me. I can't take it lightly - I really only want to do it once. The good parent thing makes me feel good. Saturn is in my 5th house too, which probably explains my kiddo's Capricorn stellium. She thinks I'm alright lol...

I read that Saturn in the 7th means (usually painful) Karmic lessons through marriage, but once you get it, there should be a reward I would think. Saturn always leaves a reward behind when you learn his lessons. Don't give up just yet, Kamilla.

astrolady, I guess you could say I'm a late bloomer. Or, just very "serious" about love.

posted June 22, 2006 12:23 PM              

I suppose i could have done that myself. I'm not lazy, honest. I just thought personal experiences and case studies from the lovely LL'ers would be insightfull.

posted June 22, 2006 07:58 PM            

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Why does gemini in the 7th mean a divorce or two marriages? I have gemini in the 7th. :/

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Gemini, the twins, is a dual sign meaning 2. Gemini is also a mutable sign meaning changeable and adaptable.

Having Gemini on your 7th house cusp doesn't necessarily mean that you will have a divorce. The placement implies that there maybe a possibility of having more than one marriage for whatever reason - divorce, death etc.

The entire chart really needs to be taken into account not just one part of it.

What happens in your marriage is also going to be dependant upon your transits and progressions and your spouses.

As always, you do have free will.

posted June 22, 2006 08:04 PM              

Hmmmmmm, after reading the posts, got me thinking of my chart - I see no marriages in my chart. I highly doubt that I will ever get married anyhow - not gonna happen.

I don't believe in having to have a contract to be with somebody. These days I have been seeing too much divorce so, why even bother going out and spending all that money for nada.....(My father would highly recommend that I go elope, if i did have a mate - he don't want to pay for anything anyhow.....)

However this is what works for me - doesn't mean that marriage doesn't work for everybody....just for this gal......nope....

ID

posted June 22, 2006 10:30 PM              

Oddly enough the ones with Aquarius in the 7th or Uranus conjunct 7th have been strong possible mates for me.

The worst at commitment i found had Saturn opposite Uranus and Saturn opposite the 7th house, not conjunct.

Plus lots of outer planets in mutable signs.

Anyway Lioneye, stick to no contracts and true love that will make you happiest-be true to your own voice and what you think is right. As a Leo your heart is strong and your instincts are right.

Sag is a good sign for this too, when the Sag i like tells me something I believe him,
that's called trust:>

A contract has nothing to do with trust, it's about a guarantee, and agreements have more to do with day to day commitment and communication.

I don't automatically trust someone I have a contract with.