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ciao
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posted July 12, 2006 04:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
can someone please explain someone with this combo for me? interested another cancer and i just don't understand this guy. one minute i think he's interested, then next, i think he hates my guts. well, not to that extreme. but when i warm up to him, he's cold. then he warms up to me and i return the favor (i know, it sounds juvenile, i can't help it, he ticked me off). then there are times where we're cordial to each other and a nice period between us ensues. then bam, he gives me the cold shoulder and the cycle begins again. i'm sure he's just going through one of his many funky moods, but does anybody have any ideas how the virgo moon might affect his sun?

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Isolaede
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posted July 12, 2006 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello lady:

I’m a Cancer with a Taurus moon, which is a bit different in “flavor” than a Virgo moon but I think there may be some similarities. I tend to think a Virgo moon would make a Cancer more cautious in the expression of emotion, and inclined to over analyze all of their feelings and relationships. He also might over-analyze himself, and be incredibly critical of himself, which might make him less confident when pursuing relationships. You know we crabs are already pretty cautious when it comes to our hearts, but when you toss in a Virgo moon you’ve got someone that rarely just “leaps” into love. I could see a Cancer sun / Virgo moon sitting there chewing over your actions wondering why you were quiet during your last get together. He might wonder if you were angry at him, or just ambivalent. Then when you smile at a mutual friend might indicate your interest in that friend. He might then try to convince himself he never even cared in the first place. While this might seem a bit mad to a different sun/moon combination, he’s just trying to ensure you are “safe” before he leaps into a relationship with you. That’s assuming he even WANTS a relationship with you – if there’s not attraction there for him, he might try being “nice” while keeping distance. Based on my knowledge of Virgos, I tend to think a Cancer Sun / Virgo moon he might have a list of things he is looking for in a mate – this could be part defense-system, part a sincere desire for what he thinks would complete him. He might also place a lot of weight on physical chemistry. If you don’t make the cut, there might be little chance at a relationship. Based on your post, it sounds like you too may be a Cancer, so what does your intuition tell you? If your gut tells you he IS interested, then what are you waiting for? Imagine how happy it would make you if he came up to you and confessed his interest. Now turn around and do that for HIM. We Cancers always hang back, watching our prize, trying to determine if it’s safe to rush in. Sadly, sometimes with all of our waiting we loose the things we covet. I’m all for throwing caution to the wind every now and again and trying honesty (thank god for my Sag ascendant). Tell him you find him fascinating, and that he seems like an incredible person. Or if that’s too forward, then at least ask him if he’d like to go see a movie with you some time. I’m sure he’ll get the hint. If he declines tells you he’s not interested then you really haven’t lost anything.

Best of luck to you!

Isolaede

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Dulce Luna
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posted July 12, 2006 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a cancer sun and virgo moon and I agree that he may have been cold due to caution. He was probably trying to "test the waters". You acting cold to him when he decided to warm up to you may have sent him back into his shell. And these cycles may be due to his moods because I know my moods change very quickly. We (and I think all cancers) have those moods were we just want to be alone, it's nothing personal. I suppose my virgo moon can make me a bit of a hermit sometimes to the dismay of everyone else. So Are you a cancer as well?

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mars446
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posted July 12, 2006 02:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a word of advice...the next time he warms up to you, be nice to him. Although I'm a virgo sun, leo moon...I can empathize with him, because I personally overthink things way too much. (put the fact that I'm a leo moon and a pisces asc......I'm very much in tune w/ just the smallest slight or variation in behavior.........if that happens, I just run away). When I try to warm up to someone, its like "I'm here, take advantage of this, come to me, I'm not going to kill you!" (b/c i have a reputation that guys can't come anywhere near me or I'll kill them....lol) and he rejects, then my spirit is dampened, so when he comes over and tries to be nice...I get confused because he just put me down with words, and now his actions are the complete opposite...it's like, which would I follow? Moreover, my hope is just lost....so I shrug it off as something that he doesn't mean, and I can't take him seriously.

I completely understand the fact that he just turned you off, and you want to get back at him....but sometimes, that just prolongs the confusion. IIIIII know from experience, and it's pretty frustrating. It won't hurt if you try to be nice to him, he'll realize and feel bad later on that while he gave u the cold shoulder, u still accepted him (that is.....IFFFF he realizes).

Good luck grly!!!

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ciao
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posted July 12, 2006 03:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awww, thanks for replying everyone. i'm a virgo sun, so i analyze a lot too, and critique what i did to cause him act that way in the first place. i don't know, i thought a sun moon thing was supposed to be good because the last cancer i was with also had this combo but he was sunnier and not as brooding (must have been his sag asc). my moon is in aries, so i tend to get a little impatient and fly off the handle sometimes (but to myself of course).

Isolaede, my first cancer crush had a taurus moon too! he was so cool to hang around with, nice sense of humor and all around nice guy. and i don't remember him changing moods on me very often, just sudden periods of silence but still very cordial and managed to make me laugh during those periods. but nothing ever happened between us because he was going through a really rough period (and still managed to carry well-contained exterior which i really admire about him) and he didn't want to short change me. brings back bitter sweet memories. hmmm, it seems i have a thing for cancers, must be my eros in cancer or something.

Dulce Luna, since you have a virgo moon, would i have to make the first solid step? i try to but he always seems to spin into another mood. then my friend tells me that he gets upset when i give him the shoulder. one is to return the favor (i'll remember not to do that again) and two is to give him room to breathe (cause i need that too). this guy is really driving me insane but i like too much, which is also driving me insane, arghhh!

mars446: "When I try to warm up to someone, its like "I'm here, take advantage of this, come to me, I'm not going to kill you!"
-i have the same problem too! but i attribute to my scorp asc. all my friends say that i look intimidating but not unfriendly, so i guess the men also pick up on this. shucks, i'm usually not the type to make the first move.

but thanks everyone, i will take all of your advice to heart and see how things go.

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Dulce Luna
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posted July 12, 2006 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"would i have to make the first solid step?"

You mean make the first move right? I am a girl so this may or may not apply to your man. With me, yes, you would have to make the first move. Cancer suns are not exactly foward when it comes to romance anyway and the virgo moon would exacerbate that. Virgo moon is a very shy moon. (and suns for that matter.) We're also nervous I agree with Mars when she says that he may overthink things , especially bad things (like when you gave him the cold shoulder). Were not the most optimistic people in the world and I'm sorry to say we never give people the benefit of a doubt. That's because we have problems trusting people. That's the reason why we "test the waters" so to speak. We play it safe when it comes to romance. But don't ever try to decieve him because he probably knows when your lying. I'm good like that. I think the mercurial factor heightens are "psychic" ability (or intuition) and thats what makes us even more hypersensitive than most cancers.

Just be friendly, and DONT reject him again if you want him to come back. You don't have to make yourself TOO open but just enough so he'll come around again, and you can take it from there.

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ciao
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posted July 13, 2006 03:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he's still cold, darn it this mood is pretty long-lasting, even my double cancer friend's mood doesn't last this long. now he just comes really close to me and stands next to me but pretends i'm not even there! but i'm hanging in there. seems like the virgo placement is to blame, i do this sometimes, but damn, in moom form it can be potent!

by first solid step, yeah i mean the first step. i said solid because i'm also being cautious. i want him to make the first move, but now it looks like it's not going to happen (and he's making it really difficult for me to do so). you guys are so elusive.

"...never give people the benefit of a doubt.."?
ouch, looks like i'm off to a bad start. i wish i had known he was a cancer from the beginning. i thought he was a scorpio or a cappy because of the way he carried himself, and told my friend that "i'm going to eat my pencil if he's a cancer." lo and behold, i only managed to mangle my pencil with my teeth. but anyway, when we first spoke, it was nice and about practical stuff. he was sharing stuff about himself, so i thought, okay maybe not a scorpio, perhaps a cappy then. but i found out what his birthday was and by then, the damage had already partially set in becasue i was giving him the rougher treatment in accordance to his actions to me. not the sharpest move, i know (sigh...and about to proceed to banging my head against the wall). but it looks like i'm digressing.

thanks for the tidbit Dulce Luna.

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mars446
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posted July 13, 2006 06:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ciao.......yeah, I gave the person I liked the coldest shoulder ever (and more than once). I would pass him by without saying anything, I would talk to his friends and pretend he doesn't exist, even when he came all the way next to me to order chinese food. He tried to get my attention, but I continued to talk to my friends until he gave up and went somewhere else to sit in class.

Virgos can be really mean when it comes to giving the silent treatment. All I can tell you is approach now....I hated it when he would be near by and not talk. So I didn't talk to him. If I were you, get out there and talk....he won't be able to ignore you, b/c you put him on the spot.

And that's just the Virgo sun...just imagine what the moon would do.

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ciao
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posted July 15, 2006 02:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi mars446. i know what you mean by giving your crushes the silent treatment. i used to pull these stunts, then hated myself afterwards when the guy left. and now it seems like i'm getting a taste of my own medicine (in moon form!).

but anyway, i tried being cordial and talked to him, asked him some questions to make it somewhat obvious that i'm interested in him, but he would give me curt answers and go rigid on me like it's his first time speaking to me, even though we've spoken before! then he would continue having small talks with my friends, all the while standing near me or across from me. drives me insane, and it's quite painful. my friends think he's awesome and everything, and they're totally oblivious to our silent fued . but during these small talk sessions, we would catch each other's eyes at the same time then immediately look away. gives me the butterflies, he looks so darn adorable! but at the same time i just want to wring his neck! arghh! i don't know what to do now. i just want to make a beeline towards him, but i'm afraid he's going to get turned off because i was a little too aggressive. i know i get sort of turned off by a guy who doesn't show class when he tries to woo me (going by my virgo sun, so i'm guessing he might be the same way because he's got a virgo moon). i don't know anymore, i just want to throw in the towel now. maybe he thinks i'm not good enough for him or something and that's why he's hesitant. ehh, i feel like i've rambled and complained enough for now. just had to vent. sorry about this.

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mars446
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posted July 15, 2006 12:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's alright......u obviously need to rant. Well, for me, I'm a virgo sun, merc, and mars (w/ leo moon and venus)

He, on the other hand, is libra sun and merc, virgo venus and mars, and cappy moon.

My mars conjuncts his venus and mars. So obviously I have to make the first move, which goes against my idea of "guy chasing the girl"

So if I were u, and u know that as a virgo, fuss over him, cuz virgos need fussing before they get to say anything. Go and get him. Just let me know how ur mars and venus aspects go.

I wish I could do the same thing, but everytime I talk to him, he gives me the cold shoulder. So I feel that he got fed up with everything that I've been doing. Oh well...

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ciao
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posted July 17, 2006 04:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi mars446...about the venus and mars aspects, we don't have any orbs. but going on just signs alone, my mars sextiles his mars and venus...so in a way, i guess i also have to do the chasing. however, we have a lot of positive uranus connections, unlike my last cancer ex where we shared lots of square uranus connections. lol, weird how uranus always seems to play in my attraction radar. and this cancer dude doesn't even seem like someone i would go for (and we share lots of pos. aspects too!). but anyway, as much as i would like to "go and get him" i don't think all this headache (not to mention heartache) is worth it. we could be great together, or we could be a flop. i'm trying to measure out whether i'm more interested in him, or just interested in conquering him. by conquering, he just so happens to be the first guy who has enough audacity to stare me back in the eyes and hold my glance all the while talking to my friend! that caught my attention in the first place. i'm gonna blame this trait of mine on my aries moon (oh how the ram loves the thrill of the chase...but the virgo is sick of it now!).

but anyway, i thank you for our advice and i guess i'll just have to wait it out now. i've done all i can for the moment, and my efforts are bearing very little fruit. but as they all say, "good things come to those who wait" so i'm going to live by this. and i'm not going to give up on this until he gives up on me. i'm just not going to yank on the rope as hard anymore, just in case he isn't interested.

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