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kittie
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posted July 12, 2006 06:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello to all of you ) I'm appealing to all the experienced people her – it's about man/woman relationship with a very strong synastry – her Saturn square his Sun, her Chiron conj. his Venus, her Sun conj his North node, her Moon on his Vertex, his Saturn on her Asc.

Now I have used the Davison Relationship Chart – again... very strong aspects. Pluto conjuncts Mercury, Venus and Mars. Moon trines North node and conjuncts uranus. Lilith opposes Uranus, Jupiter squares Moon. Venus conjuncts Mars.

Are these aspects important for their own? How should I interpret them – like the aspects in synastry or...? What do these aspects say about the relationship? How reliable is this Davison chart?

Help needed here and thanks in advance

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geminstone
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posted July 12, 2006 11:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kittie ~
The Davison is a composite that uses time and space. In a composite, the mid-points between the individual planets of the natal charts is found. Without the time and space, however, the chart is not showing actual planetary placements and, therefor, is not useable for any transit or, progressed analysis. The Davison gives a date, time and location and, in such, the Davison can actually be considered in the same ways that a natal chart can...it is the birth chart of 2 energies combined.

~ geminstone

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lovegoblin
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posted July 12, 2006 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am curious-
which would be more effective
in predicting relationship synastry?
the davidson or the composite?

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kittie
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posted July 13, 2006 01:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! I'm curious too... which is more reliable - composite or Davison?


I found some major differences between the two types. Composite gives me one kind of aspects, Davison gives me totally different. Synastry, of course, gives third point of view.

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geminstone
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posted July 13, 2006 07:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again, Kittie and Lovegoblin ~
I am not yet of the greatest understanding, as far as astrology interpretations and, only have one theory with regard to the significance of each of the composites... It was in another string a while ago, that another member made the suggestion that the Composite could show how the energy combination is encountered outside of itself and the Davison being the 'behind closed doors' of the energy... The Davison is the only one that shows transit and progression etc... as it is figured with time and space... Synastry shows the areas and issues within, each individual's life, that the partner effects by way of one's planet placements in other's houses.
I guess, in a way, the 3 could be put into the terms of Sun,Moon,Asc... maybe saaayyy....Davison akin to Sun, Composite akin to Asc and the Synastry akin to Moon...? or, something like that...I don't know, as I said, all just theory but, all these methods are valid, in my own opinion. I do favor the Davison, personally, as it is a birth chart and can be utilized in all the ways a natal has ability...
Anyway, that be my ideas, with help from another member's theory and, my own personal experiences...

~ geminstone

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kittie
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posted July 13, 2006 07:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, geminstone, thanks for sharing this

The problem is I find intense aspects in Davison... like a stellium of Venus, Mercury and Mars conjunct Pluto and stuff like this.

On the other hand, the Composite gives me very poor aspects.. like Saturn opposite Venus and Venus suare Uranus and Mars conjunct Pluto. But in the Composite our Moon and Sun is in the 7th house.

Thenk Davsion gives Saturn in the 7th house and Moon in the 1st.

It's really difficult to understand it

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lovegoblin
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posted July 13, 2006 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes kittie!
i find that also.
the aspects seem much more attractive in the
davidson vs. the composite.

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sue g
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posted July 13, 2006 11:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ladies

I just got a warm lovely feeling when I read yer posts....not particularly the content, but the feelling around them....

Hope you dont feel I am crazy...but you all sound so sweet ?

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GeminiLover75
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posted July 13, 2006 05:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strangely enough I got that feeling too Sue, when I read this thread last night.

Wanting to know more about the Davison chart!

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astroleolady
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posted July 13, 2006 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroleolady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kittie,

Here are some links with more information for you. It's really up to personal preference as to which you use.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/compositechart.html

The composite chart, unlike the Davison Relationship Chart, is derived by taking the mathematical midpoint between each person's planets and points. The Davison Time-Space Relationship chart is similar to the composite chart, except that it is drawn for the date, place, and time that is exactly midway between the individuals' birth times and places. Composite charts and Davison Relationship charts often look similar. However, Davison charts have "time and space" reality—these charts are drawn for real points in time and space, and include phenomena (such as retrogrades and eclipses) that composite charts do not.

So, while we can progress the Davison Relationship chart using traditional techniques, if we want to study the progressed composite chart, we first progress the natal charts of the individuals to a specific date, and then make a composite of those progressed charts.

http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/relationshipdavidson26.0.htm

The Relationship Chart and the Composite Horoscope

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kittie
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posted July 14, 2006 02:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, guys )) You all too sound sweet to me And very helpful

Cheers to all of you

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GeminiLover75
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posted July 14, 2006 02:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering, can this be used as a tool for couples counselling? Is it possible to work on the challenges that may be presented in a Davison chart?

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kittie
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posted July 14, 2006 04:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think, after all I read about it /which doesn't mean I understand it /, that it's indeed used in couples counselling.

I'm still learning. I also look synastry and Davison together - they reveal different energies.

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Alisa
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posted July 14, 2006 04:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that Davidson looks more attractive. I also have Venus conjunct Mar in Davidson chart but Venus conjunct Saturn in Composite chart.

Anyway, I find that Davidson chart in very useful in my forecasting for couples. For example, when I read charts of two people, sometimes I am not quite sure when they would be good luck in love together and so on, I would use progressed Davidson Chart to confirm my prediction. 90% of the time, when they break up, at least one of the following three points would perform hard aspect to saturn:
Venus
Cupido
Sun/Cupido midpoint

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Green Fairy
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posted July 14, 2006 05:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried the Davison corrected chart..and could somone give me a summary/interpretation of this one? (based on Alisa's post) and if it's not too much to ask

It looks sooo...passionate!


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Green Fairy
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posted July 15, 2006 10:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump

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kittie
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posted July 16, 2006 02:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oopss

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GeminiLover75
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posted July 16, 2006 06:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow... I don't know too much about it but all of that Scorpio looks very intense (and all of those same planets in the 7th house, wow)! Very sexual relationship, but there could be a lot of jealousy and possessiveness if the two of you aren't careful... lucky that Jupiter is in Scorpio in the 7th house, that seems great to me considering your sun, Mercury and Venus are all there too. A lot of passion but the relationship could go bad if there's too much jealousy involved...? Not sure about the Virgo moon...

Bear in mind I'm no expert and I'm just offering my very amateur interpretation. If anyone would like to correct me then please do go ahead!

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Green Fairy
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posted July 16, 2006 07:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geminilover,your comment is deeply appreciated

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whitewitch111
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posted February 02, 2013 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In mine and a lover's Davison chart the ascendant is in Capricorn what does that mean?

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Randall
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posted February 03, 2013 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Learned something I didn't know.

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tgem
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posted February 08, 2013 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could someone please please give an interpretation of this Davidson with the transits?? I'm brand new to the Davidson (fairly new to astrology in general) and have no idea how to interpret it. Thank you so much!!😊

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_65gw_01_02_tau_cusp.84851.1441.gif&res=100&va=&cid=0djfileFagDOI-u1355434088

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Randall
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posted February 09, 2013 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try asking in Personal Readings.

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tgem
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posted February 09, 2013 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok thank you😊

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