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Topic: Sun-Saturn square- synastry
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CapGirl
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posted July 17, 2006 02:59 PM
 
Selena and others... this had been discussed within a thread recently, and I don't know where I'd find it now... but why would a hard aspect like this betw. Sun and Saturn be a good thing? I forget what Selena had said, other than she sees this alot in the charts of married couples? Just looking for further discussion on the topic.
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Lady Macbeth
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posted July 17, 2006 06:26 PM
Hey CapGirl,I have this aspect with my sister (I'm the Sun and she is Saturn) and have had it with the two most significant romantic relationships I've had (I was Saturn in both.) Yeah, there's longevity here, but what an oppressive, restrictive feeling this offers...ugh....for the Sun, it always feels like they can do never do anything "right" or "good enough". In my experiences, the Sun person has always ended up having their sense of self-esteem eroded. There were a lot of other pleasant aspects, thankfully, 'cause if it were just left up to this one... Good God, it would've sucked. IP: Logged |
CapGirl
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posted July 17, 2006 06:36 PM
LadyMacBeth~ so is this how your sister made you feel? Just wondering if you're giving the sun's perspective from your own in that relationship. Thanks!  IP: Logged |
lllog
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posted July 17, 2006 06:56 PM
This is a very difficult aspect to work with in a relationship. One of you may feel repressed and squelched by the other's negativity. He or she may feel that the other person saps thier energy. One of you may see the other as too impulsive and impatient and a threat to their position and authority. This aspect produces ego conflicts and constant clashes of wills. One of you may be a little jealous of the other and work to hold them back by making things difficult for them. This aspect creates coldness and difficulties in marriage and friendships. Lanny IP: Logged |
Lady Macbeth
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posted July 17, 2006 07:43 PM
Yep...with my sister, we also have Sun conj Venus, Moon trine Moon, Merc trine Mars, Asc trine Moon and some other really nifty things to lighten the mood for the most part. But when that Sun square Saturn rears its ugly head, I am left feeling inadequate and questioning my self worth.Now...that's not to say that the "advice" and points she makes about me aren't helpful (and sometimes even accurate whether I want to accept them or not), it's just the WAY these things are presented or imposed or forced upon me that leaves me questioning my own judgment and worth. I went into these other two relationships I mentioned, knowing that we had this same aspect (only now I was the Saturn) and having it in 1 degree orb (ouch), and I tried, tried, tried to keep my communication style in check. I knew the potential problems that this aspect produces and I did my level best to remain aware and open. I know how debilitating it is to be on the receiving end of this type of interaction and I didn't want to cause anyone to feel that loss of self-esteem or loss of self confidence. BUT...no matter how I tried...I kept (unintentionally) saying and doing things to undermine their self worth. It also got to the point where I was compelled to censor everything I said for fear that it would be misinterpreted or misread. So, in a strange way, we both ended up feeling restricted and minimized. Saturn aspects (of any dynamic) between people play out over time. They aren't in your face immediately. I've experienced this first hand and have observed it with others, time and time again. Synastric Sun square Saturn has been a real drag in my experience. IP: Logged |
CapGirl
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posted July 17, 2006 08:31 PM
Yea, a heavy, heavy drag too when we're talking Cap. Sun (8th) and Taurus Saturn (10th)... I can't recall now, but maybe Selena was talking Saturn-Mars squares... Waiting for her arrival here... IP: Logged |
carlfloydfan
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posted July 17, 2006 09:52 PM
me and my girl have this aspect...she questions herself sometimes. and sometimes does not feel good enough for me, though I try to give her confidence. sometimes she misses me so much she doesn't feel like hanging out with friends or feels dead inside. I feel powerless and I hate the feeling I get when she complains that she is so blue or sorry for not giving me news. she is down about forgetting to give me news even if its just two days without news and even when i tell her it is fine. the rest of the descriptions in that aspect are wrong when concerning us. But...astrology is just for fun and when in real life, should be the last thing on your mind or you risk it becoming a self fullfilling prophecy, creating problems that weren't there until you read the aspect. sometimes I act out an aspect description after reading it than come to and realize I have a choice. some people can make a sun square moon more positive than a sun conjuct venus, ect. we still have a free will after all  IP: Logged |
Lady Macbeth
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posted July 17, 2006 10:33 PM
Free will is all well and good. But I believe we are all born with our individual atsrological imprints that incline us in definitive ways. Sure I've seen people do what they can to adjust and overcome astrological inclinations. Some have succeeded fairly well, others haven't. In a match between free will and astrological predisposition...my money is on the planets.
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lllog
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posted July 20, 2006 08:41 AM
squares of any planets provide opportunities for self growth, or in this case growth of the relationship. Its like pumpping weights, the more weight you put on, the more potential for muscle growth. Aspects like squares can also ad interest to a relationship, if the two involved are mature enough to understand and handle them. I've seen couples with no squares or oppositions, and although they work well together, they never seem to grow the relationship, because they never have anything to disagree about or learn to compromise over. Understanding and wisdom, and a willingness to see themselves as they are in their relation will go a long way in allowing the relationship to grow and handle such aspects. Lanny IP: Logged | |
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