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Topic: HOT HEADED (-ness) in charts
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carlfloydfan unregistered
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posted July 27, 2006 09:02 PM
perfect example of a chart of a hot headed person. Despite the Libra sun and taurus moon (usually a wonderful placement for the moon), cap asc this person is hot headed, stubborn, does not apologize and remembers little things in competitive life and dwells dwells dwells on them. I wonder what it could be within his chart? post aspects that would point towards a hot headed life.
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 27, 2006 09:16 PM
hotheadedness seems like aries,mars stuffalso pluto,scorpio stuff...especially dwelling I am hotheaded person who tends to dwell on stuff.
I have Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio. Venus square Mars,Moon conjunct Mars,and Moon quincunx Pluto. what's his birthdata
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and Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 27, 2006 09:49 PM
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Lauren unregistered
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posted July 27, 2006 09:54 PM
I was thinking maybe they act like this towards you.. might be the oppositions Sun/Moon, both ways. But in general, when I think hot headed, Mars aspects come to mind.. Moon/Mars, Mars/Pluto, Mars/Mercury.. or maybe Moon/Pluto even. IP: Logged |
ScorpioRising unregistered
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posted July 27, 2006 10:05 PM
Look for Mars and Pluto!IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted July 27, 2006 10:05 PM
Mars square Uranus is a fire starter.IP: Logged |
Battle of Evermore Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 27, 2006 10:13 PM
Ohhh yeah.... Cap rising fo sho. Mars in Aries... that's all I can think of off the top of my head.IP: Logged |
alanabelle86 Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Somewhere over the Rainbow... Registered: May 2009
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posted July 27, 2006 10:36 PM
I am an extreme hothead..my temper is out of control at times...I really need to work on that..I've got Mars in Aquarius in my 4th house... square Sun and Pluto...opposite Moon and it's a singleton Pluto's in my 1st house conj. Sun and Ascendant, square Moon (10th house) I would def. say any Mars/Uranus/Pluto aspects...
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Dulce Luna Newflake Posts: 7 From: The Asylum, NC Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 27, 2006 11:23 PM
Mars in aries in the 3rd can go off like a rocket IP: Logged |
Inner depths unregistered
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posted July 27, 2006 11:45 PM
I think my chart would be a perfect example of being a hot head....April 3, 71 - 9 am 114w 51 n ID IP: Logged |
DayDreamer unregistered
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posted July 28, 2006 01:57 AM
This is something both my sister and I share, which I think promotes hot-headness...Sun conjunct Mars opposite Jupiter. Ive also Mercury conjunct Sun/Mars in the 9th (opposing Jupiter)
And she's got Uranus conjuct Jupiter (opposing Sun/Mars in the 9th) We are soo similar. The thing that I believe sets us apart the most is our moons...shes got an Aries and Ive got a Pisces. IP: Logged |
carlfloydfan unregistered
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posted July 28, 2006 03:02 AM
actually I have a moon in aries and am so much more chill than he is. I always tell him to calm down and he has no aries in his chart!! I wonder what it could be and if his placements say he will change with age. I notice he does what a lot of libras I know do, mirror things back to me: where he says basically what i said back to me as if I never said it, in a matter of fact tone, which is the worst part of it. ugghh!! its like he is into his own mind to much. and he is also stubborn too. http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&cid=m1rfileQsnyx v-u1114202069&nhor=7&go.x=19&go.y=18&go=Go IP: Logged |
jkxx unregistered
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posted July 28, 2006 03:08 AM
His uranus is unaspected,the moon is in taurus (stubbornness?) and mercury's in fixed scorpio as well. His moon's receiving only hard aspects from the planets at the opposite side of the chart and there are quite a few (trigger?) I'm not so sure the Cap asc has to do with being hot-headed, maybe reserved. Carlfloydfan, you have almost the same aspects as me except in reverse - mine's sun conj jupiter and sun sextile saturn, interesting. -jk IP: Logged |
Full-fifthhouse-loulou unregistered
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posted July 28, 2006 10:03 AM
I am pretty hot-headed and impatient at times, and I speak fast too! My Mars and Uranus are closely conjunct (in libra in the 4th house.) I have mercury in saggy in the 5th house too.------------------ SCORPIO SUN 5TH HOUSE ASCENDANT CANCER CANCER MOON 12TH HOUSE IP: Logged |
Peri Knowflake Posts: 1848 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2006 10:12 AM
I'd say check Mars, Moon, Merc and Uranus aspects (especially stressful).I don't think Pluto should be added here; we are talking about 'hotheadedness' while Pluto is 'frozen fire'. Mars is fire, Pluto is nuclear reaction. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2006 11:39 AM
Is he like this this everybody, Carl or just with you? You and he have a challenging synastry t-square. His Sun-Mercury conjunction in Libra opposes your Moon in Aries and square your Mars for a t-square. That could indicate anger,impatience,aggression between the two of you. There might be a tendency for you to be impatient,get angry easily with the Moon in Aries square Mars. His Sun-Mercury in t-square with that can easily set it off. It's easy for you and he to project stuff onto each other with his Sun-Mercury oppose your Moon.
I wonder what his side of the story would be. I wonder if he might think that you're too hotheaded
They say that there is always 2 sides to a story.
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2006 11:47 AM
another thing. Moon in Taurus isn't all that great. It really depends on how it's aspected. Taurus and Libra are quincunx signs. He has Sun in Libra quincunx Moon in Taurus with 8 minutes of arc. I know a guy who had that same placements/aspects,and he was unstable and alcoholic.Sun quincunx Moon can indicate that self expression and emotional nature are out of sync with each other and adjustments have to be made. There can be emotional overreactions when Sun and Moon are in challenging aspect to each other. Sun is about expression and Moon is about feelings. Therefore it can be hard for him express his feelings in a healthy way. Quincunx is considered a health aspect. His Moon oppose Saturn can alternate between being emotional and reserved. Don't underestimate hard Sun-Moon aspects
talking about the luminaries. The most important points in Astrology IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2006 12:11 PM
I checked his chart on my solar fire. I couldn't tell the orbs of the minor aspects in his chart. A lot of people don't use 8th harmonic aspects(semisquare-45 degrees and sesquiquadrate-135 degrees)but those aspects are regularly used in Cosmobiology and Uranian Astrology. Your friend has Moon sesquiquadrate Mars with 30 minutes of arc,and that can can indicate emotions conflicting with passions. This can be a person who can easily irritated,angered.
He has Venus semisquare Mars with 39 minutes of arc,and that can indicate affections conflicting with passions. This can be irritation,anger involving people that he loves and has relationships with. This can be love and hate relationships. Uranus square Mars/Saturn midpoint with 24 minutes of arc can indicate sudden anger,frustrations,and tension. I have Uranus oppose Mars/Saturn midpoint myself. in the book,HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS,Robert Hand said that semisquare and sesquiquadrate are not weak aspects. He said that an exact semisquare or sesquiquadrate is more important than a square that is several degrees out,and many traditional astrologers who have ignored these so-called minor aspects have missed out on important information. The semisquare and sesquiquadrate was devised by Johannes Kepler. another thing Ptolemy measured aspects simply from sign to sign. Vedic Astrologers do that too.
modern Western Astrology is geometrically based. IP: Logged |
alanabelle86 Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Somewhere over the Rainbow... Registered: May 2009
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posted July 28, 2006 04:54 PM
I add Pluto to the mix because I personally experience Pluto as extremes.. the squares just amp it up times 10. And already having a pretty bad temper, the Pluto aspects don't help. Makes it harder to control...setting me off more than I'd like..IP: Logged |
wilsontc unregistered
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posted July 28, 2006 06:10 PM
Glaucus,You said: quote: ...Moon in Taurus isn't all that great...
This might be a little misleading to those new to astrology. Since the Moon is exalted in Taurus, Moon energy flows very easily in the sign of Taurus. So the Moon works very well in Taurus. However, if there are Saturn challenges as you described, even the most exalted Moon energies could have a few issues! ;-) Exaltedly, Tim ------------------ For information on basic astrological chart interpretation see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2006 06:17 PM
Hmmmm.. I don't feel that Pluto has as much to do with hot-headedness on it's own in as much as it may contribute to the length of the anger depending on aspects. I am slow to anger- but quick to snipping at someone (Sag Sun / Venus / Aries moon). I'll make a quip and tell someone to go pound sand if they truly annoy me, but I don't experience that seething long lasting anger. I will hold a grudge at times and I will remember most thing verbatim - what the person said, when they said it, what they wore and so on.. BUT, I do that with most details. I have Pluto conjunct Ascendant in Virgo in the first house squaring my Sag Sun in the 4th house. There are times when I can be in a battle with authority figures, but mostly if I have lost respect for them based on unethical behaviour. I rarely yell or call names (unless it is in Global unity and there are a few there worthy of some of my most spectacular names) and I almost never hit unless it is playful or to defend myself. Physical fighting is ugly, hurting someone or backstabbing is repulsive. I usually hold my temper and just think of something else- especially if I am dealing with really crazy people. Pluto is all about control and on some level - revenge. The best form of revenge is success.... apply all the anger to that IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 28, 2006 09:10 PM
I really don't think any placement is all that great. I don't care if it's exalted,fall,domicile,or detriment. It matters how it's placed and aspected. Also it really depends on how that person is uses their energies. I never felt comfortable with putting a lot of emphasis on exalted planets. IP: Logged |