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Glaucus
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posted July 30, 2006 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

I found the book, THE CARE AND FEEDING OF INDIGO CHILDREN by
Doreen Virtue, Ph.D.
I took a look at it,and I found that I could strongly relate to this
stuff. Therefore, I bought the book. The more I read it, the more I
believed that Indigo Child seemed like a label for children with
learning disabilities and AD/HD. I feel that New Agers created this
label because of the skyrocketing increase of children with AD/HD. The
problem is that the AD/HD condition is not just exclusive to children.
There has been an increase of diagnosing AD/HD in adults. Some were
diagnosed AD/HD at 60 yrs old. Last year, I was diagnosed inattentive
type ADHD at the age of 32, and my mother told me that she can relate
to many of the symptoms AD/HD and Dyslexia. From what my mother told
me,my father seemed to have Dyslexia and AD/HD. From what I have seen
in my mother's side of the family, numerous relatives have these AD/HD
traits. Everyone of my mother's 4 halfsiblings dropped out of high
school,and my mother never even went to high school. They did find
their niches,and they did well in their careers except for my uncle
Dino has gone through many jobs but he has learned many skills. My
Uncle Eddie who is now 45 year, was always hyperactive. He was in
special ed with speech problems like me. My stepgrandmother refused to
have him medicated because both her and my grandfather were
hyperactive,and they weren't on medication. It seems that
hyperactivity runs in the family. With knowing these things, I do not
believe in Indigo generation nor the Indigo label itself. The label is
not going to help a child with problems with learning to read and
communicate as well as learn. Special education helped correct my
Dyslexic problems,and so I am a compensated Dyslexic with the right
hemispheric strengths of Dyslexia. As for the AD/HD, I really don't
think it's a problem. I honestly feel that it's an alternative learning
style that doesn't fit well with classroom,and I feel the same about
Dyslexia. I also feel that because of their sensitivity, the wrong
foods can affect them in adverse ways. I also feel that the
fluorescent lights in the classrooms can make them feel uncomfortable
and can exacerbate both AD/HD and Dyslexic symptoms. Fluorescent
lights can make Scotopic Sensitivity worse. The fluorescent lights can
make people with Scotopic Sensitivity have problems seeing black print
on white paper due to reflection of the light on the paper.

I really do believe that anybody with strong Neptune and or/Uranus
influence can identify with the Indigo. After all, it is said that
Indigos are psychically sensitive,highly imaginative,think in
pictures,innovative,independent,can be
rebellious,compassionate,empathic,intuitive,bright,strongwilled,and
sometimes self destructive individuals. Most of all, they don't fit in
the mainstream including especially traditional school environments.
That stuff is me, my mother,and my father. I have Moon in Pisces in
6th square Neptune in 3rd along with unaspected(ptolemaic,8th
harmonic,nor decliantions) Uranus which is also my oriental planet and
trine my Midheaven. I have Uranus conj Mercury/Ascendant midpoint,Sun
semisquare Mars/Uranus midpoint,and Mars in Aquarius. I have a 11th
harmonic pattern of Ascendant,Mercury,Mars,Saturn,and Uranus. My
mother has Sun in 12th trine Neptune along with Moon in Scorpio trine
Venus-Uranus conjunction. My father had Moon in Pisces with stationary
retrograde Neptune. My hyperactive entrepreneur uncle Eddie has Moon
in Aquarius in 6th house oppose Uranus which is rising along with Moon
square Neptune in 3rd. My mother's father had Moon in Pisces and
Uranus oppose Ascendant. My aunt Dominga has Uranus square the
Ascendant along with Sun conj Neptune in 12th. My Uncle Dino has Sun
conj Neptune which is square his Moon in the last degree of Cancer. He
has Mercury square Uranus. My aunt Isabel has Moon trine Neptune and
Uranus trine Mercury-Ascendant conjunction. My friend Traci who was
born in 1978, has Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Aquarius along with Sun
square Uranus and Moon in Pisces in 3rd. She told me that she's
Dyslexic and AD/HD. She can relate to the Indigo Stuff. Her friend
Tara has Sun oppose Neptune,and she's Dyslexic and was misdiagnosed
AD/HD. They both worked as preschool/daycare teachers and worked with
special needs children. They have experience working with
Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,and AD/HD children.

I am studying Vedic Astrology,and I do believe that Ketu(South Node)
and Rahu(North Node) has to do with these conditions.

Rahu - originality,
individuality,independence,insight,ingenuity,inspiration,imagination;
OR
confusion,escapism,neurosis,psychosis,deception,addiction,vagueness,illusion,delusion

Ketu - Universality,
impressionability,idealism,intuition,compassion,spirituality,self-sacrifice,subtleness;
OR
eccentricity,fanaticism,explosiveness,violence,unconventionality,amorality,iconoclasm,
impulsiveness,emotional tensions

My own Moon is in Satabisha( 100 Physicians - nakshatra ruled by Rahu,
deity - Varuna) and my Ketu is in 12th house which is placement of
great loss and suffering but also good placement for
spirituality,liberation,detachment,and psychism. It's a very karmic
placement,and so I am paying heavy dues in this life and sorting out a
lot of karma in this life. I believe that my special education student
experiences were lessons in humility. They help me make the
humble,compassionate,and tolerant person that I am today. I am a
massage therapist,and I love helping others. I give free astrology
readings. I recently became a sustaining member of International
Dyslexia to support my fellow Dyslexics and help raise awareness of
Dyslexia. I am definitely tired of people that believe that Dyslexics
are stupid or not able to read and write well which is one of the
myths. They obviously don't know about early intervention and special
education nor the teaching methods and strategies that help Dyslexics.
They don't know that many of the students in special education are
there because of speech and reading problems and not because of lack of
intelligence. They definitely don't know about that many Dyslexics
don't reverse letters,and they don't see backwards.
Dyslexics can do anything that they set their minds to if they believe
in themselves,and so they can be Astrologers. ;O) I feel that it's my
Dyslexia that helps me with Astrology because I think outside the box
and I view the chart as multidimensional. My natural visualization
ability helps me to actually picture how the planets interact as well
as see the patterns. My intuition helps me out too. 3-D
visualization,picture thinking,and intuitive thinking that Dyslexics
have can enable them to be good at tarot which is a divination system
that uses cards with images that stimulate the right hemisphere of the
brain,and Dyslexics are rightbrained dominant. They use right hemisphere and not just left hemisphere for language tasks. Many Dyslexics are left ear dominant which is wired to the right hemisphere,and so they tend to have auditory processing problems.

Here are things in the book that I read that pertains to me and other
Dyslexics as well as others with learning differences including
Dyspraxia,Sensory Integration Disorder,and AD/HD as well as visual
spatial learners

page 100, Indigos may seem awkward or clumsy and may be labeled a
having delayed motor skill functioning

page 101, Talking and reading may also seem unnatural to Indigo
Children, who intuitively know that more accurate and honest
conversation is available through telepathy

page 11, Indigo Children are exquisitely sensitive in many ways. They
may have been subject to taunts such as "You're too sensitive," yet
their sensitivity is a spiritual gift equivalent to a detecting
instrument.

page 172, Because right-brained people have such acute senses, they're
easily distracted. They can hear every little click of the school
clock's hand, and the high pitch of the fluorescent lighting.

page 97, one of the reasons why Indigo Children are so good at
manifesting is because they processing information primarily through
mental pictures. They are skilled visualizers and can easily develop a
photographic memory. They think and learn mainly in pictures

pafe 113, Sensitive Indigo Children aren't just affected by the
physical properties of their bedrooms; they;re also influenced by the
invisible nontangibles in their rooms. Music, lighting,and scent and
can make a big difference in your children's sleeping patterns,
moods,and energy levels.

page 6, Indigos are highly creative children,and think outside the box.
This thinking style has created many of the world's breakthrough
inventions

page171, Indigo Children, gifted children, who are labeled ADD or ADHD
and adult lightworkers are almost always rightbrain dominant. This
means that they interact with the word primarily with the right
hemisphere of their brain, which focuses upon visions and feeling and
relates to nonverbal studies such as art, music, math, philosophy,
psychology,and psychic arts. Right brain - dominant people can make
excellent writers and speakers, provided they learn how to translate
their mental pictures and strong internal feelings into the world.

Hi...there was talk about psychic abilities and visions. I didn't get
into that stuff. Those aren't symptoms of learning disabilities. Many
learning differenced people have the common sense to keep those things
secret from people that they know that can't trust with those things
including especially psychiatrists. However; in the book,the BIPOLAR
CHILD, learning disabilities was listed as one of the common symptoms
and traits in bipolar children. Oversensitivity to environmental
influences was listed as one of the very common symptoms and traits in
bipolar children. Many children that were diagnosed as AD/HD are now
believed to have been actually Bipolar,and so its that many children
have bipolar. That's the same with adults now believed to have
AD/HD,and many AD/HD adults have talked about how their AD/HD was
misdiagnosed as bipolar. Many children are being on antipsychotic
drug, Risperdal for Bipolar. It's even used for autism.

I have a list of books that I own and/or read about learning
differences and special sensitivities

THE GIFT OF DYSLEXIA by Ronald D Davis
THE EVERYTHING PARENT'S GUIDE TO CHILDREN WITH DYSLEXIA by Abigail
Marshall
SMART BUT FEELING DUMB by Harold D Levinson, MD
THOM HARTMANN'S COMPLETE GUIDE TO ADHD
RIGHTBRAINED CHILDREN IN A LEFTBRAINED WORLD by Jeffrey Freed and Laura
Parsons
EDISON GENE by Thom Hartmann
DYSPRAXIA by Amanda Kirby
UPSIDE DOWN BRILLIANCE The Visual Spatial Learner by Linda Kreger
Silverman,PhD
IN THE MIND'S EYE by Thomas G West
UNDERSTANDING DEVELOPMENTAL DYSPRAXIA by Madeleine Portwood
ADD and ADHD Complementary Medicine Solutions by Charles Gant MD,PhD
THE CARE AND FEEDING OF INDIGO CHILDREN by Doreen Virtue, PhD
THE HIGHLY SENSITIVE CHILD by Elaine N. Aron, PhD
THE HIGHLY SENSITIVE PERSON by Elaine N. Aron, PhD
THE HIGHLY SENSITIVE PERSON IN LOVE by Elaine N. Aron, PhD

sites on Dyslexia and other learning differences
http://www.dyslexia.com/
http://www.dys-add.com/
http://www.levinsonmedical.com/home.html
http://www.dyslexiamylife.org/dyslexia.html
http://www.dyslexia.tv/
http://www.macalester.edu/~psych/whathap/UBNRP/Dyslexia/index.html
http://www.dys-add.com/#video (free online Dyslexia video to
watch...Susan Barton herself speaking)
http://www.tomatis.com/English/Articles/dyslexia.htm

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13anshee
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posted July 30, 2006 10:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm
i will say this about indigo's

they are the next evolution of our species
and in that they are marginally differant from the "older spec" model of humanity
kinda like, windows 95 verses Windows 64 bit
ever tried running a new program on an old system?

people today are slow to wak up to the new ideas being brought forward, but HOPEFULLY once the baby boomers become the older generation things will be finally able to change

well, they better, other wise we miss the evolutionary ship
i'm sure you know what that means

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mars446
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posted July 30, 2006 11:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Glaucus,

Did they mention anything about left handed people? The reason I'm asking is because left handed ppl use more of their right brain than right handed people. Let me know if u find anything.....Thanx

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posted July 30, 2006 11:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As someone with Asperger's and fits the mold of an indigo to a T, I think the whole indigo fuss is rubbish. Total rubbish. There's been people like us around in every generation. It's just they use to stick us in self-contained special ed classes, special schools and group homes, or doped us up on heavy antipsychotics, or gave us lobotomies or EST, or locked us up in asylums. Or we were just left to flounder through life at the mercy of world that treated us as subhuman, usually falling to wayside and forgotten (except for a handful who society deemed "worthy"). It's only recently that there's a push in education and psychiatry/psychology to be inclusive with "special needs" kids, and so these kids are no longer shoved to the margins and now they're getting noticed. Yet these kids have plenty of adult counterparts who have gone before them. We were just treated differently, and often tragically. There's nothing new about kids like this - what's new is societal perception of the diversity of humanity that's always been in our midst.

Basically, the Indigo propaganda conveniantly umbrellas a multitude of neurological conditions that manifest as LDs, autism spectrum disorders or developmental issues to the point to seems very contrtived to me, like some sort of new agey political spin. But the key connection there is it focuses on the neurologically atypical - those us with such neurological "disorders" think and process differently on a primary level in our brains. It effects everything our brains do. We perceive, recieve, sense, respond, react, anaylize, understand and evaluate differently. Our brain usually work in ways that a "neurotypical" person doesn't, and in some cases, like with Asperger's, we use parts of the brain normal people never develop. So naturally, we should have "abilities" that - if not dismissed frist as madness or retardation, or insomeway discouraged or suppressed - would demonstrate a very different way of relating to the world that might even seen "magical" or "supernatural" to more normal people. However, like I said, we're been around forever. There's nothing "supernatural" about it - in fact, it's very natural. It's just society hasn't learned to appreciate nature in all its varied splendor.

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Glaucus
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posted July 30, 2006 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

They don't mention lefthanded. I know about the lefthanded stuff

I am right handed but I am left ear and left eye dominant,and so I am very rightbrained myself. I think mainly in pictures. I think in pictures nonstop as well as highly imaginative. That's typical of a Dyslexic like me. I am so rightbrained that I had problems processing words,sequences. My mind is nonlinear.

That's what being Dyslexic is for me.

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Glaucus
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posted July 30, 2006 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Gemini Nymph,

You said it much better than I could ever have done!

I was a special ed student for 3 yrs in elementary school. If it wasn't for special education(motor skills therapy,auditory therapy,speech therapy,phonics training, I would always had severe problems with language processing and very poor motor skills because of my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia.

I have had psychiatric misdiagnoses of psychotic,bipolar crap by psychiatrists in adulthood because they were ignorant of my Dyslexic,Dyspraxic nature. I have history of anxiety and depression.

I have always have been extremely sensitive on every level too.

I was referred to as being "special" by my mother and stepfather. After all, I had special needs. I was in special education. A lot of people had no idea how much I hated that word. You know how some people say "Oh..You think that you are so special!" to cut you down. They didn't know they were talking to somebody that had special needs and was a special ed student.

I definitely believe that Indigo Child is just a New Age copout label for people like myself.

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posted August 01, 2006 05:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait..... are you saying you don't believe in people with indigo auras or just the propaganda? Do you not believe in auras at all?

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posted August 01, 2006 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't believe in the Indigo Child propaganda.
Like Gemini Nymph said, Indigo Child is an umbrella term for people with atypical neurological systems(AD/HDers,Dyslexics,Dyspraxics,other Learning Disabled,Aspergers,Autistics)like her and myself.

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