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GeminiLover75
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posted July 31, 2006 12:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm just wondering which are the most likely indicators of psychic/intuitive ability, and whether we can see from a natal chart exactly what those abilities might be?

I'm reasonably intuitive, pick up vibes from others, know certain things in advance, the occasional precognitive dream, have had shared dreams with others, and most strangely, actually heard things in my head that my boyfriend was thinking at the time... sometimes I'll just 'know' something and it turns out to be true, and there was a time I was doing foot reflexology on my boyfriend and when I noticed and touched a particular part of his foot I became hyper-aware of a past excruciating injury to his body and I almost cried (the type of injury it was, is just what I felt about it). When I was a kid I used to 'know' what song was coming on the radio next, etc etc. Basically a lot of random things. The placements I can think of that might contribute are my Scorpio moon, and Neptune in the 12th house?? I have four water planetary placements (along with four fire, two air, and two earth).

What aspects should I be looking for? My moon trines Mars (Pisces) and Saturn (Cancer) and is semisextile Neptune (in Sag). Also Neptune trines my Jupiter (Aries). Are any of these relevant?

Any tips would be appreciated and I would love to hear others' placements and aspects.

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ScorpioRising
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posted July 31, 2006 12:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th house moon-in Cancer-gives me intuitive dreams at times. = )

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jkxx
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posted July 31, 2006 02:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GeminiLover,

at times I have visions of things before they actually happen. Or see people say something and then it does - but it's not consistent.

I have my moon and mercury conjunct neptune in the 12th while both are sextiling pluto and the MC.

In particular, astro has "You can learn a lot through your emotions, for you understand by feeling rather than by thinking. " under moon sextile MC. Also there's "You are also very sensitive to what is going on in other people's minds, even when they don't say a word. This may be confusing at first, because you don't know how you know something, and that makes others disbelieve you, even when you are right. Your intuition is very highly developed." for mercury conjunct neptune. Both are true.

Neptune's the planet to watch (or look) out for here, especially if it makes hard aspects to personal planets which themselves aspect the angles. The 8th and 12th houses are good candidates as well.

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Neptune's Muse
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posted July 31, 2006 11:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jkxx is right! Moon in scorpio is very strong, moon in water signs and water houses in general contribute largely to psychic ability and intuition, also Pluto (Intuition) and Neptune (psychic ability) in water houses or water signs...
Water on the angles, 1st, 4th, 7th, 12th...and a strong 8th house is a plus!

Here is a website that has some info on the subject.
http://www.moonvalleyastrologer.com/sixth_sense.htm

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Glaucus
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posted July 31, 2006 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I agree

I have strong water(Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio along with Moon in Pisces),Moon square Neptune in 3rd. I have Moon quincunx Pluto in 1st. I have that newly discovered 10th planet, 2003 UB313(nicknamed Xena)in 8th house sextile Midheaven/trine Imum Coeli. My Moon is also trine my 12th house ruler,Sun as well as conjunct my 8th house ruler,Mars. I also have Mercury parallel Neptune and Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint which puts more emphasis on receptive,imaginative,visualizing mind of my Neptune in 3rd. I feel that indicates my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia too.


I always felt that I had a strong sixth sense. I don't like to use words like psychic though. I wouldn't talk about stuff like that with mental health professionals. I feel the need to keep experiences secret. I am very introverted. I feel that Saturn square my Pisces Moon,oppose my Neptune and contraparallel my Mercury and Venus in Scorpio,quincunx my Sun in Scorpio can indicate that I doubt and fear my psychic abilities.

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posted July 31, 2006 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have Sun conj True Black Moon in Scorpio(osculating lunar apogee) with 22 minutes of arc.

I can relate to all the interpretations of Sun conjunct Black Moon. I even never knew my father who left my mother and me when I was a year old,and I clashed a lot against my stepfather who was domineering,controlling.


Sun-Black Moon conjunction:
Being conjunct to the Sun makes the Black Moon extremely powerful.
Especially (but not only) in a female chart, a major aspect of Black
Moon to the Sun tends to create a 'Lilith character': strong-willed,
stubborn, independent mind and lover of freedom, original,
non-conformist, rebellious, passionately disliking routines and
enslavement at large. Lilith was the woman who did not need Adam and
left him - not a common thing to do in early biblical times - one
reason being that she bluntly refused to lie under him during
lovemaking.
There is a profound need to go beyond limitations of all kinds.
This, naturally, leads the native to challenge establishment. At
times, it will create difficulties; a Lilith character does not
hesitate to tell her/his boss what she/he thinks of him, and can't
give a damn about consequences once she/he has made up her mind to
do something.
The eyes shine, at times defiantly. The personality is sharp, with a
marked taste for intensity. This, in Clairvision language,
corresponds to violent astrality - venom in large measure!
There are strong likes and dislikes, and a tendency to know
immediately whether one likes someone or not.
This may have to do with the profound insights into the
psychological motivations of other people. Being herself/himself so
well in touch with her/his shadow, the native has a fine
understanding of other people's psyche. A Lilith character is often
subtle, with a great sense of nuances, and an EXTREME sensitivity.
Problems with the father:
With this aspect, it is not rare to find that the native had major
problems with the father (especially in the chart of a female).
Either the father was absent, or perceived as absent, or was fought
against. There is likely to be some deeply rooted wound in the
psyche, relating to the father, with profound consequences on the
whole organisation of the personality.
In symbolical terms this conflict with the father goes far beyond
childhood scenarios. It is the father image, in its widest meaning,
which is involved here. Think of Lilith, angry at God for making her
subjected to Adam's authority (and patriarchal establishment at
large), and lamenting, "How could He [God the Father] do that to
me?"
It is the same wound that you are carrying. It was so deep that it
never healed.
When experienced on its highest level, a major aspect of Black Moon
to the Sun can make the native quite psychic: premonitory dreams,
intuition, natural affinity with the hidden mysteries of life, and
clairvoyance.

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Dulce Luna
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posted July 31, 2006 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bf has a pisces moon and he is just too good. He also has a scorpio sun and mercury conjunct uranus. He's good at guessing motives, people's feelings, and other things. I think water mooners or people with moons in water houses are like this.

My moon's in virgo in the 8th house and it trines neptune and sextiles pluto, and I have some weird dreams that sometimes manifest in different ways but I still know that the real life event was connected to the dream. I also can pick up vibes and I have a water mercury trine pluto and opposite neptune. My 12th house is full with my ascendant ruler (saturn) and neptune there.


I also think anyone with pluto on the asc or in the first house may have pre-cognative abilities. My sister is a pisces sun/scorpio rising conjunct pluto and she has dreams that come true but they're so blatant unlike my dreams, which are filled with symbols and crap. Sometimes she'll be thinking about some person that she hasn;t seen in a long time and then she'll either hear from them or about them.

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neptune5
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posted July 31, 2006 08:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. I don't know if you would consider these psychic as much as artistic but i have them:

Moon Sextile Neptune
Neptune Semi-Sextile Lilith
Neptune Semi-Sextile Vertex
Neptune in the 5th house Trine Pallas Conjunct Ascendant in the 1st House
Neptune Trine Ascendant
Neptune Trine Ascendant
Mars Quintile Neptune

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Gemini Nymph
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posted July 31, 2006 08:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces moon trining Gem Mercury conjunct Gem MC.

At least it works well for me.

What's really cool is that the asteriod Anubis is prefectly conjunct my MC too, so it's in aspect with my Pisces moon as well. Anubis is assocaited with death and the passage into the afterlife. Many of my psychic experiences has involved the souls of the deceased. I can also have pre-cognitions of how some people die, and so far, I haven't been wrong.

So I talk to the dead and I can tell you how you'll die. I must sound pretty creepy huh? I guess that's why I rarely talk about this....that, and I'm very skeptical about my own psychic abilities, even though they're very consistant.

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noreenz
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posted July 31, 2006 08:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey GN, good to see ya!

Here is a somewhat recent discussion here at LL:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008230.html

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Venusian Love
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posted July 31, 2006 09:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are the only ones I have

53: Neptune Sextile Pluto: There is the opportunity to use your psychic abilities for the benefit of humanity; Can develop clairvoyance & prophetic ability. Have precognitive dreams. Strong psychic healing powers; desire for justice for all people. Abhor violence or anything that might degrade or oppress another person or animal.


127: Neptune in Sagittarius: Prophetic; an ability to develop clairvoyance.


146: **North Node in Cancer: Psychic abilities are strong in Cancer, so psychic abilities can be developed in this lifetime, if desired. When the student is ready, the (spiritual) teacher appears

151: **North Node in 12th House: Often indicates unconscious intuitive, psychic abilities available in this incarnation, but may be difficult to access or recognize in this house. This is the house of the unconscious mind, karma from past lives brought into this one, and solitary confinement by choice or not.

99: Mercury in 12thHouse: perceptive, intuitive and subtle mind; absorb knowledge intuitively; if well aspected, especially by sextiles or trines to Neptune, Uranus or Pluto, valuable ideas and knowledge may be gained through intuitive or psychic ability.


http://home.comcast.net/~rosemary.harrington/PsiIndicators.html


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Love can transpose to form and dignity.
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GeminiLover75
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posted July 31, 2006 11:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, very interesting everyone! Thanks for the link, Venusian Love... that's great! According to the site, I have these indicators:

53: Neptune Sextile Pluto: There is the opportunity to use your psychic abilities for the benefit of humanity; Can develop clairvoyance & prophetic ability. Have precognitive dreams. Strong psychic healing powers; desire for justice for all people. Abhor violence or anything that might degrade or oppress another person or animal.

127: Neptune in Sagittarius: Prophetic; an ability to develop clairvoyance.


41: Jupiter Trine Neptune: Intuitive and psychic and should follow inner leading; Can be mystical and drawn to religious and philosophical groups.

115: Saturn in Cancer: Psychic tendencies strong

138: Neptune in 12th House: Stress on subconscious due to extreme sensitivity; reflective and intuitive; have psychic ability which operates unconsciously and person may or may not be aware of it.

151: **North Node in 12th House: Often indicates unconscious intuitive, psychic abilities available in this incarnation, but may be difficult to access or recognize in this house. This is the house of the unconscious mind, karma from past lives brought into this one, and solitary confinement by choice or not.

105: Mars in Pisces: Intuitive

Water Grand Trine: A pattern formed by three planets in a triangle of the same element. In this case, it is the Water element, which is known as the Psychic Trinity. These energies are in harmony with each other so that they bring the harmony and ease in the houses and matters that the planets represent. Higher consciousness describes the ability to intuit truths and spiritual knowledge associated with the teachings of the great Masters.

So excited to find out I have a water grand trine!

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 01, 2006 12:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi noreenz - good to see you too!

Interesting. I have, from this list:

22: Mercury Trine Uranus: Denotes the advanced soul. Has an inward feeling of what is right for him to do. His intuitions make his decisions for him, and he is not afraid to trust them.

15: Sun Trine Uranus: Strong magnetic healing force; strongly intuitive person.

53: Neptune Sextile Pluto: There is the opportunity to use your psychic abilities for the benefit of humanity; Can develop clairvoyance & prophetic ability. Have precognitive dreams. Strong psychic healing powers; desire for justice for all people. Abhor violence or anything that might degrade or oppress another person or animal. (This one is very true of me!)

79: Moon in Pisces: Needs other characteristics in chart to be reliable. (that so made me laugh - but I think they're downplaying how psychic Pisces moon is, even if the nativ eis clueless)

127: Neptune in Sagittarius: Prophetic; an ability to develop clairvoyance.

135: Neptune in 3rd House: : Intuitive, ESP gives clairvoyance, psychic skills

111: Jupiter in 3rd House: Intuition strong

45: Uranus Trine Neptune: In other lifetimes, have worked toward tapping their unconscious minds and elevating their consciousness. Because of this, they are idealistic, with a desire to alter the materialistic concepts they see in the world. They are extremely tolerant of others’ philosophies; are very intuitive with psychic potential. Intuition gives you the ability know things but not why you know. It can frustrate intelligent people who lack this ability. Intelligent people know why they know.

I also have other things associated with psychic abilities:

- Neptune Singleton
- Neptune ruling a luminary by sign (Pisces moon)
- a water moon in an angular house
- a water moon in aspect with Mercury
- Pluto in an angular house


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Glaucus
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posted August 01, 2006 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GeminiNymph,

I agree with what you said about Pisces Moon...at the least, it is a psychic,emotional sponge..more so than the Sun in Pisces after all..moon is emotions,feelings,unconscious...they feel everything around them on unconscious level.

I also feel that challenging Neptune aspects are way underestimated. Sylvia Browne has Moon,Saturn,Neptune t-square herself and she is renowned psychic. I have Moon,Saturn,Neptune t-square too.


I take astrologer's stuff with grain of salt any way. Astrologers' interpretations vary. I just don't like cookbook interpretations any way because they don't usually consider things that modify.

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jkxx
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posted August 01, 2006 02:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sometimes she'll be thinking about some person that she hasn;t seen in a long time and then she'll either hear from them or about them.

This reminded me - have any of you dealt with synchronicity? Like whether it precedes your visions or just happens around you unusually often (as in the above example but on a near-constant basis).

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DayDreamer
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posted August 01, 2006 02:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not psychic. I do admit I am a dreamer. If any bright ideas enter my mind, I have to rationalize and double check it with logic. I have Sun/Mars/Mercury Aquarius.

Moon in Pisces square Neptune (which is conjunct Venus) in Sag. (Im not supposed to be living in reality...on the other hand there is supposed to be some psychic influence with this aspect...Im good at reading people, their intentions, etc, yet I can go over board).

Moon opposes Saturn in Virgo (where some of the excessive pragmatism, rationalizing and doubt originates)

Moon trines Uranus in Scorpio. (Helps connect/relate ideas/inspiration out of thin air/God, to logic).

Neptune/Venus sextile Pluto.

My Mercury in Aquarius may be in the 8th house using the equal house system (still debating this hs sys). And Mercury opposes Jupiter.

Dont know a thing about my asteroids.


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Sylvia Browne has Moon,Saturn,Neptune t-square herself and she is renowned psychic. I have Moon,Saturn,Neptune t-square too.

Ive got Moon/Saturn/Neptune t-square too!

But Im not at all psychic like Sylvia Browne, is known as.

edited...Glaucus you said, "I also feel that challenging Neptune aspects are way underestimated." What do you mean by that? (could you elaborate maybe with some examples?)

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Glaucus
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posted August 01, 2006 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Moon in Pisces indicates that you're a psychic sponge, and so does your Moon square Neptune. You're quite the psychic sponge but Saturn oppose Moon can indicate doubts. opposing Neptune and squaring Moon.

I have Moon in Pisces AND Moon square Neptune like you. I have Saturn squaring my Moon and opposing my Neptune. I often doubt my highly psychic nature. I didn't know that I was a psychic sponge until I read about Astrology. I always knew that my feelings were easily affected by surroundings. I feel that Saturn squaring my Pisces and opposing my Neptune indicates my feeling the need to keep myself from getting involved in far out stuff. I can be grounded,practical when it comes to spirituality. I stay away from mediumism,magick,channeling,cults,organized because I don't want to lose touch with reality. I was skeptical of Astrology until I was 28 years old. I have a lot of lucid,spiritual,precognitive dreams. Another thing to say..imagination is not necessarily fantasy. Imagination is just the process of images(pictures). Imagination is said to be the key to helping you utilize your psychic abilities. The keyphrase for Pisces is I BELIEVE. That says it all.


I don't believe in what the astrologers say about how challenging Moon-Neptune aspects don't live in reality and live in fantasy worlds. Thats B.S. to me. I also feel that you have to take other stuff into account. My Neptune is in 3rd and my Moon is in 6th, and so my Pisces Moon square Neptune is about my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia and psychiatric misdiagnoses as well as overly sensitive to drugs,sensitive stomach...and just overall hypersensitivity in general.

I don't smoke,drink,nor use drugs.

my Sun in Scorpio in 2nd trine Moon in Pisces in 6th can indicate harmony in myself and emphasizes the positive Scorpio,Pisces,2nd house,and 6th house stuff....so there is ease with finances,resources. I don't have serious health issues. I have good regeneration. My sensitivity,intuition,empathy,intensity,depth,emotions,feelings,psychic stuff can work for me. I can find self worth

I can express my feelings easily,feel hope and vitality easily, can relate well with both males and females,easily identify with feminine side.

Overall it's an aspect that can indicate that really eases the difficulty of my Moon in Pisces in 6th, retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th, and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd t-square. The Sun trine Moon is like a stabilizer and keeps me from being an emotional basketcase/nutcase.


I don't like cookbook interpretations because they don't take into account other influences.

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Glaucus
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posted August 01, 2006 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I said...Sylvia Browne has Moon,Saturn,Neptune t-square and she's a well renowned psychic. She has challenging Neptune aspects.

Challenging Neptune aspects aren't always delusional,escapist,and all that other negative stuff. They can be psychic,intuitive,compassionate,creative. any Neptune has to do with sensitivity...especially aspects involving the Moon,Sun,Ascendant,Midheaven,Mercury,and Venus.

Stephen Arroyo wrote that he often found challenging Neptune aspects in the charts of serious spiritual seekers too.


Also I found people with learning disabilities,ADHD,autism with challenging Neptune aspects too. Astrologers don't write about stuff like that. They often focus on challenging Neptune aspects as psychological issues,laziness,and dishonesty. The thing is that many learning disabled,autistics,and ADHDers are often labeled those things.

Neptune is the planet of confusion,hard to pin down, learning disabled,autistics,ADHDers often confuse "normal" people and they are hard to pin down. They can be very uneven in strengths and weaknesses. A lot of them have been mistakened for not being intelligent,and lot of them have proven to be gifted.

Dyslexia is about confusion,distortion,and misperception when it comes to words. I know this from being an auditory Dyslexic who used turned things around when I heard stuff and was confused with words. My speech can be disorganized. I can have clumsy speech make verbal mistakes like President Bush. I didn't speak clearly nor in complete sentences until I was almost 8 yrs old. I tended to mumble a lot. I am very softspoken. I tend to ramble,talk too rapidly,loosely. It was my speech problems got me misdiagnosed as having schizoaffective,bipolar disorders in 1999 without any psychological nor neurological testing being done. I was diagnosed as having inattentive ADHD later on. After that, I saw 2 neurologists. They both told me that I wasn't suffering from a psychiatric disorder. They acknowledged/confirmed that I had Dyslexic,Dyspraxic issues just like it was acknowledged when I was a little kid who ended up in special education for 3 yrs to get my Dyslexia corrected.

Dyslexic people are visual, multi-dimensional thinkers. We are intuitive and highly creative, and excel at hands-on learning. Because we think in pictures, it is sometimes hard for us to understand letters, numbers, symbols, and written words.

We can learn to read, write and study efficiently when we use methods geared to our unique learning style.
http://www.dyslexia.com/

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DayDreamer
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posted August 01, 2006 03:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for replying Glaucus...it's late here, so I will give you my reply another time.

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DayDreamer
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Im still going to reply to this...(I think have ADHD...selective?...many things I have a hard time focusing on...and I worry and get stressed out because I get this feeling like Im not doing what Im supposed to be doing...something is missing and that I havent done enough and that something bad is going to happen. Paranoia? And sometimes this won't let me get on with some day to day things. I can be there, doing the job, but my mind and concerns are focused else-where. It has alot to do with the Pisces Moon soaking up everything around it (and not around it), and the aspects it makes.

For now though, thank you for the link on dyslexia.

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Dyslexia is about confusion,distortion,and misperception when it comes to words.

My speech can be completely disorganized too! I turn parts of sentences around way more often than is normal. Sometimes I miss words and my writing is always choppy. The ideas and info are all in my head...getting it all out is where the problem lies.

Im not sure how I think...it's not in words or numbers or anything taught in school. I don't communicate through words well. Fortunately I faired well in Math (the Aqua may have helped). I went to university, but I never studied until the night before my midterm or exam...because I couldnt get myself to comprehend the subject material any other time. I could read, and re-read something 20 times and it wouldnt register...unless I had something the following day. Craming helped because I was able to connect the entire course or unit together in my head and that made learning and memorizing easier.

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53: Neptune Sextile Pluto: There is the opportunity to use your psychic abilities for the benefit of humanity; Can develop clairvoyance & prophetic ability. Have precognitive dreams. Strong psychic healing powers; desire for justice for all people. Abhor violence or anything that might degrade or oppress another person or animal.


Things like this really effect me alot.

I cried so much when I read this. My heart started hurting and almost couldn't breathe.

That's why I hate this piece of crap world.


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Dogs Being Walked Seized From Their Owners and Beaten to Death on the Spot
By CHRISTOPHER BODEEN, AP
SHANGHAI, China (Aug. 2) - China slaughtered 50,000 dogs in a government-ordered crackdown after three people died of rabies, sparking unusually pointed criticism in state media Tuesday and an outcry from animal rights activists.


Officials throw a dog they clubbed to death on the street into a collection truck in southwest China's Yunnan province on Saturday.
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Health experts said the brutal policy pointed to deep weaknesses in the health care infrastructure in China, where only 3 percent of dogs are vaccinated against rabies and more than 2,000 people die of the disease each year.
The five-day slaughter in Mouding county in Yunnan province in southwestern China ended Sunday and spared only military guard dogs and police canine units, state media reported.
Dogs being walked were seized from their owners and beaten to death on the spot, the Shanghai Daily newspaper reported. Led by the county police chief, killing teams entered villages at night creating noise to get dogs barking, then beat the animals to death, the reports said.
Owners were offered 63 cents per animal to kill their own dogs before the teams were sent in, they said.
The killings were widely discussed on the Internet, with both legal scholars and animal rights activists criticizing them as crude and cold-blooded. The World Health Organization said more emphasis needed to be placed on rabies prevention.
The official newspaper Legal Daily blasted the killings as an "extraordinarily crude, cold-blooded and lazy way for the government to deal with epidemic disease."
"Wiping out the dogs shows these government officials didn't do their jobs right in protecting people from rabies in the first place," the newspaper, published by the central government's Politics and Law Committee, said in an editorial in its online edition.
In an editorial, the official Xinhua News Agency said the killings wouldn't have been necessary if the local government had been more attentive, but called the slaughter "the only way out of a bad situation."

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"If they'd discovered this earlier, they could have vaccinated the dogs and ... controlled the outbreak," the editorial said.
The killings prompted calls for a boycott of Chinese products from the activist group People For the Ethical Treatment of Animals.
"We are urging everyone to actively boycott - not a word we use lightly - anything from China given the bludgeoning killing of thousands of dogs," PETA President Ingrid Newkirk said.
She said the group had canceled all orders of merchandise it sells that are made in China. Will Wright, at PETA's European office in London, said the orders were worth about $300,000.
"We believe other groups will join us in expressing outrage over the blatant cruelty to animals the world is witnessing," Wright said.
Mouding County officials defended the slaughter in a region where about 360 of the 200,000 residents suffered dog bites this year, with three people reportedly dying of rabies, including a 4-year-old girl.
"With the aim to keep this horrible disease from people, we decided to kill the dogs," Li Haibo, a spokesman for the county government, was quoted as saying by Xinhua.
Calls to county government offices went unanswered Tuesday. Located in mountains about 1,240 miles southwest of Shanghai, Mouding is famed for its Buddhist shrines.
Unlike in the West, where dogs have long been cherished as companions or helpmates, dogs have rarely had an easy time in China. Dog meat is eaten throughout the country, revered as a tonic in winter and a restorer of virility in men.
Following the communist seizure of power in 1949, dog ownership was condemned as a bourgeois affectation and canines were hunted as pests. Attitudes have softened in recent years, although urban Chinese are still subject to strict rules on the size of their pets and must pay steep registration fees.
About 70 percent of rural households now keep dogs, according to the Chinese Center of Disease Control and Prevention, and increased rates of dog ownership have been tied to a surge in the number of rabies cases in recent years. It said there were 2,651 reported deaths from the disease in 2004, the last year for which data was available.
Access to rabies treatment is also highly limited, especially in the countryside, said Dr. Francette Dusan, a World Health Organization expert.
Effective rabies control requires coordinated efforts between human health, animal health and municipal agencies and authorities, Dusan said.
"This has not been pursued adequately to date in China, with most control efforts consisting of purely reactive dog culls," she said.
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posted August 02, 2006 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's horrible VL ,I still don't understand how in this day and age people can be so cruel to animals. Did you find this on MSN?

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I have my moon in pisces, in the 10th house, which conjuncts my midheaven. My sun, mars and pluto are in scorpio, in the 6th house. I also have neptune, uranus and NN in the 8th house. my moon sextiles both uranus and neptune and trines my pluto, mars and sun.

Is there a psychic potential there..?

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posted December 26, 2012 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Glaucus:
Your Moon in Pisces indicates that you're a psychic sponge, and so does your Moon square Neptune. You're quite the psychic sponge but Saturn oppose Moon can indicate doubts. opposing Neptune and squaring Moon.

I have Moon in Pisces AND Moon square Neptune like you. I have Saturn squaring my Moon and opposing my Neptune. I often doubt my highly psychic nature. I didn't know that I was a psychic sponge until I read about Astrology. I always knew that my feelings were easily affected by surroundings. I feel that Saturn squaring my Pisces and opposing my Neptune indicates my feeling the need to keep myself from getting involved in far out stuff. I can be grounded,practical when it comes to spirituality. I stay away from mediumism,magick,channeling,cults,organized because I don't want to lose touch with reality. I was skeptical of Astrology until I was 28 years old. I have a lot of lucid,spiritual,precognitive dreams. Another thing to say..imagination is not necessarily fantasy. Imagination is just the process of images(pictures). Imagination is said to be the key to helping you utilize your psychic abilities. The keyphrase for Pisces is I BELIEVE. That says it all.


I don't believe in what the astrologers say about how challenging Moon-Neptune aspects don't live in reality and live in fantasy worlds. Thats B.S. to me. I also feel that you have to take other stuff into account. My Neptune is in 3rd and my Moon is in 6th, and so my Pisces Moon square Neptune is about my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia and psychiatric misdiagnoses as well as overly sensitive to drugs,sensitive stomach...and just overall hypersensitivity in general.

I don't smoke,drink,nor use drugs.

my Sun in Scorpio in 2nd trine Moon in Pisces in 6th can indicate harmony in myself and emphasizes the positive Scorpio,Pisces,2nd house,and 6th house stuff....so there is ease with finances,resources. I don't have serious health issues. I have good regeneration. My sensitivity,intuition,empathy,intensity,depth,emotions,feelings,psychic stuff can work for me. I can find self worth

I can express my feelings easily,feel hope and vitality easily, can relate well with both males and females,easily identify with feminine side.

Overall it's an aspect that can indicate that really eases the difficulty of my Moon in Pisces in 6th, retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th, and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd t-square. The Sun trine Moon is like a stabilizer and keeps me from being an emotional basketcase/nutcase.


I don't like cookbook interpretations because they don't take into account other influences.



You don't know how much it means to read this!!! This is EXACTLY how I feel!!! I cannot take most drugs and alcohol has a horrible affect on me. In fact, I am extremely physically sensitive to everything. I have a moon opp Neptune natal aspect but drugs are out of the question. Even three cookies are enough to make me feel kinda drunk and they have no alcohol.

It almost sounds like a joke, but, admit to being addicted to caffeine pills. Got terribly addicted to those things with withdrawal symptoms that were worse than average. Lots of headache and vomiting. It's hard to believe because it's just caffeine but it can be pretty bad.


I still drink coffee. Caffeine is the only drug I take. I feel like I have the same effects naturally without taking anything as the people who seek this feeling by taking drugs so I don't need them. All except energy which is why I drink coffee.

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posted December 27, 2012 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
16: Sun Conjunct Neptune: Psychically sensitive; mystically inclined; not an easy person to understand for they do not understand themselves.

96: Mercury in Sagittarius: Can have prophetic sight.

46: Uranus Conjunct Neptune: Next is 1993. Will give spiritual mysticism and strong intuitive awareness, which existed on continent of Mu, and the scientific abilities which existed on Atlantis. Earth has gone thru purification so only spiritually advanced souls will be incarnating on earth.

66: Ascendant Trine Neptune: Psychic and intuitive

140: Pluto in Scorpio (1984-1996) and Neptune in Leo: Many born with great psychic ability already developed.

152: **South Node in Cancer: Psychic in past life; born psychic in this life.

13: Sun Conjunct Uranus: Very intuitive.

114: Jupiter in 11th House: Intuitive

128: Neptune in Capricorn (1985-2000): Strong intuition, which will be used on practical affairs. Many evolved souls will elect to come at this time to serve humanity as educators, leaders, and spiritual teachers. They will seek to establish a perfect world.

Time to conquer the world

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