posted July 31, 2006 10:14 AM            

I noticed that reports often interpret oppositions to the ascendant negatively. I don't agree with at all. They are the same as conjunctions to the descendant. After all, descendant is the opposite angle of the descendant. Descendant has to do with others,relationships,and partnerships. Descendant is the 7th house cusp.

oppositions that involve the ascendant shouldn't be interpreted so negatively. They should also be interpreted positively....especially oppositions that involve the Sun,Moon,Ascendant,Venus,Jupiter,and Ascendant.

Ascendant oppose Ascendant is not necessarily negative because it's the same as the Ascendants conjunct Descendants both ways.
That means that their personas,selves,personalities are fused,merged with how they are in relationships,partnerships and how their partners are.

Venus oppose Ascendant is when love,affections fused,merged with how a person is in regards to relationships,partnerships.

Oppositions to the Midheaven aren't necessarily negative either. They are the same as conjunctions to the Imum Coeli which has to do with domestic environment,feelings,unconscious. Imum Coeli is 4th house cusp.

Moon oppose Midheaven is the same as Moon conjunct Imum Coeli, and that indicate that feelings,emotional nature,nurturing are fused,merged with domestic environment,feelings,unconscious.

So when you see oppositions to the angles, don't necessarily think negative. Always remember that they are also conjunct the opposite angle.

A lot of generated reports don't take into account that oppositions to an angle are same as conjunctions to opposite angle.

Anything that aspects an angle,aspects the opposite angle

posted July 31, 2006 10:25 AM            

I never say 'you have something in opposition to ASC/NN/MC' but 'you have it conjunct DSC/SN/IC'

posted July 31, 2006 12:54 PM              

I have moon oppo ASC, and normally I think of it as a mixed blessing. Often times I do think of it very positively, because there are specific benefits in my case. I have Pisces moon in the 7th - it's a easily deluded placement. But with the challenges that an opposition to my ASC, my "interface with the real world," my moon is very challenged to stay grounded and in touch. It hasn't been easy, and there's been times it's been pretty hard on my nerves and sanity (it doesn't help I'm very Mercurial). Yet with a Pisces moon that's better grounded, I can make better and more constructive use of my Lunar-Piscean gifts, i.e., my creativity, my intuition, my broad, cosmic perspective and so forth, without my sense of self and individuality being compleltely dissolved.

posted July 31, 2006 01:15 PM            

BTW...Do you have strong Saturn aspects or any significant earth placements?

my realism,practical,grounded stuff are:
Virgo Ascendant
Saturn in Gemini in 9th
Sun quincunx Saturn
Moon square Saturn
Mercury contraparallel Saturn
Venus contraparallel Saturn
Jupiter oppose Saturn
Saturn oppose Neptune
Saturn contraparallel Neptune
Saturn conjunct Midheaven

My 11th house ruler Moon in Pisces in 6th,(4th/7th house ruler)Jupiter-(7th house ruler)Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd,retrograde (5th house ruler)Saturn in Gemini in 9th t-square indicates my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia as well as my depression,anxiety from insecurity due to my Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,and special education that adversely affected my work environment,communications,education...all the 6th house,9th,3rd house stuff as well as all 4th,5th,7th. I was so ashamed of my past that I kept it secret from others. I was afraid women would reject me if they knew about my past. I didn't think I was worthy of being a boyfriend,husband. People mistakened my Dyslexic,Dyspraxic traits for being stupid,lazy,not caring. I was used to being called "stupid" by my coworkers in the navy just like I was called "retard" by regular school children when I was in my special education years. Ignorant psychiatrists misdiagnosed me as having schizoafective,bipolar disorders,personality disorder stuff because they didn't understand my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia. My parents and other family members didn't understand that I still had Dyslexic,Dyspraxic difficulties after I got out of special education. My friends didn't either. The problems never went away. They were subtle and I learned to compensate. Since 2003 until I learned about Dyslexia and Dyspraxia, I felt that I was stupid and incompetent even though I am highly intelligent. Dr. Levinson understands about that. That's why he titled his book on Dyslexic Syndrome,SMART BUT FEELING DUMB.

Being a multiethnic(Black,Portuguese,English,German,French,Italian,Puerto Rican,Native American,and Jewish) has been hard for me..especially as a kid and was in the navy. I was called confused a lot because of my mixed background. I was accused of not being,acting,dressing black enough. People gave me a hard time. It was mostly white kids that called me "retard" when I was in special education. It was mostly black kids who accused me of being gay,calling me homosexual slurs,giving me a hard time for not acting/dressing/being black enough,and being involved with white women. People thought I was other ethnicities,mixtures like Puerto Rican or some other Hispanic or Pacific Islander or Arabic or Black/Mexican or Black/Asian. I hated having to only mark down 1 ethnic category on a form. A chief in the navy got on me because I put down more than 1 ethnicity and told me to put down only 1,and I told him straight up "No" because I am not just one thing. There was doctor in the navy who told me that I had emotional problems because of my mixture. He actually believed that all my ethnic mixture biological makes me psychologically messed up. I had to deal with racism involving psychiatry. I feel that racism had to do with my misdiagnoses and not just because of their misunderstanding about my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia. As a kid, I wondered if I was adopted because my mom is white and I am not. I was relieved when I saw my birth certificate. The thing is that my birth certificate only lists my mom,and she's listed as white. There is nothing on my father. People in the navy marked me down as being white because of my birth certificate. hahahaha

My great challenges in my life definitely reflect my t-square.

I am not easily deluded and I don't believe in things easily. I didn't even believe in Astrology until I was 28 yrs old. I was skeptical of it. I had believed more in genetics and DNA. I realized how accurate Astrology is,and I ended up becoming an astrologer doing free readings for people since 1999. I don't like things that are far out,and I definitely don't buy into the Indigo Child concept because of my own history of being a "special" child with Dyslexia,Dyspraxia. I know that disabilities of any kind are no joke,and they shouldn't be labeled and excused as some special metaphysical thing.

posted July 31, 2006 01:46 PM              

BTW, I am too highly skeptical. I have a lot air in my chart, and air grand trine. I have two air placements that are heavily Uranian - a Uranus singleton and Aqua Mars/NN - and my other air placements are very Saturnine - Gem Su nand Merc in the 10th, and Gem Venus conjunct Tau Saturn. SO that combined Uranus-Saturn infleunce, supported og course by a Virgo ASC, makes me very hard to persaude -I also think there's a big link here to my Asperger's. I want proof, data and facts, not other people's opinions, thoughts or impressions (as people with AS usually are). I'm indifferent to personalities, and focus to a fault on principles. It took a long time for me to trust astrology, even though it had fascinated me since I was a young child (it's a "system" and AS people like systems). It was something I had to examine and test for myself.

As for God, I have no issue with believing in God's existence myself. It's very logical to me (*trusting* God, however, is another story). I have a lot of issues with how other people talk and think about God, though. I'm a philosopher and theologian in my own right, and a devout adult convert Catholic. I wasn't raised as anything in particular. We went to several different churchs growing up - Unitarian, Luthren, Methodist, Non-demonational - but never for very long, so nothing really stuck. Education, intellect, literacy and science was empahized in my home, not religion. As a Cathloic, however, I'm not exactly a "company (wo)man" so to speak. I'm what's called a "faithful dissenter" - I disgree with certain moral teachings and church practices, but not dogmatic (essential)teachings. I'm extremely tough-minded about anything to do with God. To me God is reality and truth, but we as human can be easily deluded about reality and truth, and so too with God. As I often say, never understimate humankind's ability for self-deception.

Aside from having Vrigo ASC, my only earth placements are 1H (rising/leading) Pluto in Virgo and 9H Saturn on the 29th degree of Taurus. Both are very significant in my chart. Pluto naturally cos it's rising and leading, as well as in a configuration wiht both my luminaries AND my chart ruler. it is also conjunct with both BM Lilith and asteriod Lilith.

Saturn's important in my chart cos:

posted July 31, 2006 01:57 PM            

I have Aquarius Mars and North Node too.
Uranus is my oriental planet and its unaspected. Noel Tyl said that unaspected planets run away with the horoscope. he says that oriental planets are involved in vocation. I have Uranus in Libra trine Midheaven. I also Uranus conjunct Mercury/Ascendant midpoint,oppose Mars/Saturn midpoint. That might fit in with my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia issues. I also have Sun semisquare Mars/Uranus midpoint too. I have to say that I could relate to combined type ADHD but I kept myself in check when I was in school because I got spankings at home.

I feel my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia isssues are the t-square that I mentioned as well as my Mercury parallel Neptune and Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint.

my birthdate:

posted July 31, 2006 02:00 PM              

My brother, who either has AS or something very similar, has an IQ of over 140 but was put in special ed classes for "slow" learners in school because people thought he was behind. He was misdx'd as manic depressive, and was put on various drugs throughout his youth too. He's got major emotional and psychological issues now, and is extremely angry and bitter (he's a Leo-Ari-Sco).

posted July 31, 2006 02:27 PM              

Interesting that you have no planets in earth or in retrograde. You also have a fire singleton by conjunction with your Jupiter and Neptune, which opposes your Saturn, which is also a singleton (only planet in a universal house). That's a multiple opposition too, like I have in my chart, and should be considered an aspect configuration. Multiple oppositions cause a lot stress in a chart, because the planets involved are constantly in a stressful dialogue. It's like if your chart was a group meeting wher the purpose is to get everyone to collaborate, and there's a small group in the back, having their own personal argument. LOL. But the good side is that once a native learns to balance out this configuration, they have learned a lot about themselves and life, and have a lot wisdom and insight. It's considered a "fated" configuration for this reason. Also, I think for both us, that it is significant this multiple oppsition in our charts falls on the 3H-9H axis - that certainly indicates additional stress and potential in those areas.

posted July 31, 2006 02:48 PM            

I also have multiple oppositions, but not in the 3rd and 9th.

In the Pullen Astrolog section at astro.com there's an easy to pull up Midpoint chart (Aspect/Midpoint grid chart).

posted July 31, 2006 05:40 PM              

Also, is that 2:34 AM or PM?

If I pull up a chart for Dec 26, 1971, you have a mystic rectangle, but not really a multiple opposition. A multiple opposition is formed when one or both ends of opposition has a tight conjunction or stellium. For example, mine has Saturn and Venus conjunct by 4 degrees opposing Jupiter conjunct Neptune by 3 degrees. Essentially it's one oppositon with more than two planets involved, but not several different oppositions.

posted August 01, 2006 02:18 AM              

I think people with hard aspects are on the QUICK-track to knowing THE-SELF and integrating THE-SELF spiritually.

Learning disabilities are just another way to show us parts of our minds/genetics/souls to understand. Why are we the way we are?

Glaucus and GN, are either one of you interested in Geneology?