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Topic: I'm really confused
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LuLu
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posted August 07, 2006 08:37 PM
 
For those of you that are tired of hearing about this, I apologize in advance. I had my game face on, I was moving on, I made plans with the Virgo for later this month. We e-mail back and forth every couple of days. I've been smiling from ear to ear. But then today, the Scorp e-mails me and says that he should have moved to where I was last year. That he should have picked me and then our biggest problem would have been whether or not to get out of bed in the morning. That our relationship would have had a completely different ending and that it's all he thinks about. And my stomach just fell and instant sadness set it. I'm posting our synastry (because I don't know what else to post) in the hopes that someone can help me see things more clearly, explain what possible transits may just be blowing overhead to get this response from him. From experience, I don't trust his words until I see his actions, he just really tore at my heart strings this time. I am so confused here. I just need a little guidance.  IP: Logged |
pseudofemme
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posted August 08, 2006 12:08 AM
I don't know what your history with the Scorpio is so I'll just give my first impressions about your synastry. In a nutshell, I think it'd be best not to get involved with him. Even if he says "things could have been different," there are a few red flags on the comparison chart that suggest otherwise.You have a double whammy of each other's Mars square each other's Sun, which is a difficult aspect for relationships. It can produce a lot of attraction between the two of you, but also lead to VERY intense conflicts and disagreements... arguments, impulsive reactions, lots of fights. Having just one person's Sun square Mars is bad enough, but the aspect happens twice in your synastry chart, so it's even more significant. The two of you may be very drawn to each other but the end result is a lot of friction and fighting. Your Venus is also square his Saturn, which is another very difficult aspect. There can be ulterior motives in this relationship... especially from the Scorpio... and he will tend to be inconsiderate of you. You say "I don't trust his words until I see his actions," and I think that's a very wise choice on your part... although with this aspect, even his actions can be manipulative. I'm not sure what degrees your Venus and his Saturn are, but it looks like a really tight orb, maybe 00° or 01°, which makes it quite powerful in your relationship. His Sun conjunct your Uranus suggests the relationship won't be stable, and his Uranus opposite your Sun suggests he'll need a lot of space and freedom in the relationship--perhaps more than you're comfortable giving. There would be a serious clash of wills here. Your Mercury opposite his Venus can also make communication and understanding difficult between you and the Scorp... there are apt to be hurt feelings. You do have some positive aspects with him, but from the overall look of your synastry chart, I reckon there is a lot of attraction that would ultimately lead to an unhappy relationship (one with lots of fights and aggression). You are probably drawn to each other, perhaps quite intensely, but there are a lot of obstacles standing in the way of a healthy relationship.
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Peri
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posted August 08, 2006 01:52 AM
Let me ask you does the Scorp know about your Virgo guy?If he does then you should bear in mind that he may want to get you back just to dump you after you break up with the Virgo...just for fun. Ask yourself: why did he not want you when you were available? P.S. Sorry if I sound harsh but I did not get a good feeling about this guy when I read your posts about him. IP: Logged |
Love
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posted August 08, 2006 05:20 AM
LuLu ~ The synastry chart on this page has expired so I never got to see it, but with my Scorp I had some of the same squares and conjunctions that you have with him and I can say that although I would have to see the chart as a whole to compare, it sounds like Pseudofemme and Peri might be on to something.I don;t know your history with this guy, but
the distrust of words and/or actions were all a part of my relationship too and you don't need a chart to tell you that if you feel as though you cannot trust him then there's probably a good reason for it. I think when you have a very powerful attraction to someone it obviously takes away your ability to apply reason to a situation that you would normally have no trouble analyzing if you were not the one in it. So I would suggest that you try what I have done in the past and pretend that you are not one of the participants in the relationship and instead pretend that you are giving advice to a friend with the same issue(s) you are facing. It will help you to get a bit more perspective and also to lend you a sense of needed detachment. Those darned Scorps. They get under your skin and they're hard to shake off. Without sounding trite, I wish you all the best. I know it's hard. Love  IP: Logged |
BlueEyes24
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posted August 08, 2006 09:11 AM
I agree with Peri... I had a guy do this to me before, only to leave me for someone else once I came back to him.You deserve a guy who wants to be with you ALL the time. <3 IP: Logged |
Mama Mia
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posted August 08, 2006 01:11 PM
Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda...I read your post about this one in Soul Unions..Before you make any decisions see what the Virgo is about. Scorp men do get under my skin in the worst way..And before any Scorp man comes here to fight me..I am speaking on a individual
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Dulce Luna
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posted August 08, 2006 01:43 PM
By any chance, would he happen to know anything about the Virgo guy? If so, then don't believe a WORD he is saying. I've seen this happen so many times, and apparently so have the others as they have told you what would happen if you chose Scorp. Please do yourself a favor and drop him like it's hot.  .IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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From: Sacramento,California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 08, 2006 02:32 PM
I have Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio with Pisces Moon and Virgo Rising.
I knew a Sun,Venus,Jupiter Taurus gal with Scorpio Moon. She and I dated briefly. She dumped me when I was out to sea. She told me that she didn't approve of her being at raves and how she drinks and I don't. She told me that she did ecstasy. She took me book after I told her about a woman 11 yrs older that I was sexually involved with. She dumped afterwards. My heart was broken. The woman that was 11 years older than me lied about her age,and I met somebody that was a year older than me. She and I liked each other. I was waiting to get mail from her when I was out to sea again. I got the Taurus gal's mail and I gave her a call. She wanted to go out with me again. She told me that she stopped using drugs. A few days later, I finally got mail from the gal that was a year older than me. It was too late late for her. I was committed to the Taurus gal. I had lied to the other gal later on when she recommended a certain day to go out and do something,but I was talking to her like I wasn't interested in her. I had also talked to the Taurus gal about permission about going out with the other gal as a friend,and she told me that it was okay. But the other gal recommended a day that was the same day that I had plans with the Taurus gal. I felt guilt over what I did too. I felt more guilty and even stupid when the Taurus gal dumped me. She told me that she lied about stop using drugs. I was like "Damn..I shouldn't have wasted my time with Amy(the Taurus gal)after she dumped me the first time ...I should have just been with Bridget(the other gal). I was in love with Amy even when I had the sexual relationship with the woman that was 11 yrs older than me. She just got me on the rebound. Even when I met the other woman,I was still in love with Amy.
The heartbreaking experience led me to have problems trusting women.
I was 23 at the time. I wasn't used to dating either because I was very shy,introverted,and not that sociable. I was a virgin until I was 22 yrs old. Of course, I had insecurities due to my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia past as well as my multiethnic background. I was prone to doing stupid things without thinking too. I felt that I had to do the same thing that other navy guys did to fit in. I was a nice,square type of guy who tried to be like a "bad boy" I was kinda attracted to the "bad gals" They were just all wrong for me. Now I am involved with a gal that doesn't smoke,drink,nor use drugs and is kinda prudish like me. She has Venus in Taurus and Scorpio Moon like Amy. She's completely different from her. Any ways...yeah...I know the experience about a gal taking back after I found somebody else. You just never know ....it could be a manipulative jealousy thing. I am used to being played by women in my life. It's not just men that break hearts. A lot of women play games too.
I was ignorant about Astrology during that time. I didn't believe in it until 1998. Therefore,I didn't know about the gals' sign placements. I didn't know about Scorpio being watersign until the lady 11 yrs older than me told me. She was supposed to be a Cancer. She told me that Cancer and Scorpio are supposed to be compatible because they are both watersigns.
What I found out later is that she wasn't even a Cancer. Her birthday is June 20th...Her Sun is in Gemini but her Mercury is in Cancer. hahahahaha
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LuLu
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posted August 08, 2006 03:20 PM
Freakin' idiot that he is had the NERVE to call me a ***** today because I told him if he wasn't planning on making a change in his current situation, I couldn't continue to talk to him about the feelings he still has for me. WOW is he ****** off. Here are the aspects since the chart disappeared.
Me
4/26/78
Louisville, Kentucky
1:43am
ASC - Cap. 29 degrees
Sun - Tau 5 degrees 3rd house
Moon - Sag 17 degrees 11th house
Mercury - Aries 14 degrees 2nd house
Venus - Tau 28 degrees 4th house
Mars - Leo 5 degrees 7th house
Jupiter - Cancer 2 degrees 5 house
Saturn - Leo 23 degrees 7th house
Uranus - Scorp 14 degrees 9th house
Neptune - Sag 17 degrees 11th house
Pluto - Libra 14 degrees 8th house
True Node - Libra 5 degrees 8th house
Chiron - Tau 5 degrees 3rd house
Him
11-2-77
Atlanta, Georgia
12:43pm
ASC - Cap 26 degrees
Sun - Scorp 10 degrees 9th house
Moon - Cancer 24 degrees 6th house
Mercury - Scorp 19 degrees 10th house
Venus - Libra 20 degrees 9th house
Mars - Leo 2 degrees 7th house
Jupiter - Cancer 5 degrees 6th house
Saturn - Leo 29 degrees 7th house
Uranus - Scorp 11 degrees 9th house
NEptune - Sag 14 degrees 11th house
Pluto - Libra 15 degrees 8th house
True Node - Libra 14 degrees 8th house
Chiron - Tau 3 degrees 3rd house IP: Logged |
LuLu
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posted August 08, 2006 03:23 PM
He doesn't directly know about the Virgo. The Scorp tried to con me into letting him stay with me later this month and I told him no. He wanted to know why I didn't want him to and I just said I was interested in someone and didn't want to mess it up. So....yes, I guess he does have a little bit of an inkling, but not any type of details.IP: Logged |
Peri
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posted August 08, 2006 03:25 PM
Glaucus, sorry if this thread made you feel uncomfortable, it is not about men or scorpio men in particular; its about an a$$hole that happened to be a man and a scorpio.I totally agree with you, people break each other's hearts and manipulate each other's feelings regardless of their sex and astro signs 
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Glaucus
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posted August 08, 2006 03:32 PM
Oh the thread didn't make me uncomfortable. I was just stressing that it's possible that a person can take you back for possessive,jealousy reasons. You can find the perfect person,and that could get the ex feeling that he/she wants to be the only person in your life and doesn't want you to be happy. Very selfish stuff.
That Scorpio dude shouldn't be given any time a day. Kick him to the curb,Lulu. You deserve somebody a lot better.
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cappyme
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posted August 08, 2006 03:40 PM
Hey Lulu, I agree with Glaucus. The Scorpio guy doesn't deserve your attention, and maybe he's just trying to manipulate you with words, I'm not sure about your history but did he use you in the past or betray your trust or something??? Anyways just keep dating the Virgo guy and have fun!And Glaucus: Woww you went through that, sorry but those girls are mean and are idiots. I'm glad you're dating a much better girl now. How is this relationship compared to the Taurus one?? Game-playing makes the relationship so complicated anyway. And I agree people of both genders play games, its a bit stupid really. Anyways you sound like a very mature and cool guy, stay the same!
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