posted September 07, 2006 01:01 PM            

I know some of their signs, and I think Sag and Capricorn tops of the list of untrustworthy types in the context of that show.

Sags:

James
Erica

Capricorns:

Janelle
[Dr.] Will

posted September 07, 2006 03:31 PM            

Don’t get me wrong. I got badly hurt by two of them. I know other close experiences… But they never betrayed me… They hurt me, yes, but not betrayed me. I think this is a case of not understanding scorpio motives, their dark and mysterious ways…

They can be brutally honest, but they don’t lie… They can be terrible, they can break your heart, but they won’t betray their inner truth. You may not understand, you may even delude yourself. They don’t get a damn of what you think of them, they are above all that. They may be wrong but at least they are integer.

I don’t think they lie unless they don’t care about you. You may think they lie, but they would believe or trying to believe that truth.

They will protect you even from themselves… No other sign does that… They know they are dangerous so they may hurt you to drive you away if they suspect they are hurting you even more in the long run with their presence. Self-sacrifice… That’s something to honour.

posted September 07, 2006 06:22 PM            

How can a Sun Sign read the vile comments made about their sign here and NOT hold it against the person that said it? LMAO...

Gemini Nymph,

First off, your trust is not needed nor wanted and as Scorpionic web stated- how can you even tell who you can and can't trust on a website? What did you divulge your deepest darkest secret to one of the 4 signs you mentioned hating and they told the board about it?

Noting what you said, do you think any of those 4 signs will want to participate in a thread that you start or even converse with you since you have labeled them all untrustworthy, backstabbing etc...?

As an Archer, I could care less if you trust me. I think anyone that throws out people of an entire sign based on a few people or instances is incredibly foolish and not worth caring about their trust or friendship. For the record, I would never be friends with someone as closeminded as some of the people here.

That would be like me hating all Taurus people because of a few bad experiences I have had with a few Bulls. Had I allowed my mind to become biased in that way, I would not have the pleasure knowing people like Natasha (sthenri) or my "real life" friends Cheree and Theresa. I adore my best friends partner (another Bull) and I have several lovely Gemini friends- even though I have dealt with a few less than trustworthy twins.

posted September 07, 2006 06:39 PM              

It would be nice if we no longer had posts like:

Which sun sign do you hate the most?

Which sun sign is most likely to be a psychopath?

posted August 05, 2007 01:18 AM            

I have never gotten along with any Pisces. The ones I've known have been manipulative, selfish and cruel. I'm sure there are nice Pisces people out there, but I haven't met one yet.

posted August 05, 2007 02:01 AM              

I don't really trust Aquarians...they are flip floppy...
Some Scorpios have shown me that extreme, which is a turn off in friendship. The next minute they apologize and tell me they love me and still want to be friends!
I want to stick up for any water moon signs, especially mine, Cancer. We may be unstable at times but if we call you a friend you will be taken care of for life. It's a nurturing loyalty we have for our loved ones which is appealing-to me at least!

posted August 05, 2007 09:50 AM              

whom I trust?? .... other sags and scorps.. but not all the details... When you read the astro description that sags are HONEST.. believe it but the truth is ... A sagittarian wont lie to you BUT he /she is never gonna tell you the whole truth as well..

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those I dont trust??... anyone who tells me abt personal stuff of another person, I mark it as a 'land mine'..if you can tell me someone else's secret, you'll do the same for me too.

the sign I most distrust.... GEMINI.
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Moreover, I dont know why people tried to defend "scorpio" just because MUSTANG said she does not trust them.......... go back the thread, No sag ever mentioned a word when a lot of posters named "sag" before Mustang's post...

posted August 05, 2007 12:43 PM            

babeefoxx Yes, Cancer moons are nurturers and very loyal. However, the less evolved ones (the ones I know) want to be taken care of all the time like infants. I always feel like I have to be the parent because they refuse to grow up. It all depends on the maturity of the person

To everyone: I'm a Gemini but I wonder, where did this reputation for dishonest Geminis come from? People tell me I'm too honest and that I have to learn to be more tactful, but so far I've failing miserably!

I've only known one Libra and he was brutally honest. I don't know about other Libras though.

I've known one very dishonest Leo, but other than that I love Leos!

posted August 05, 2007 01:28 PM            

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I've only known one Libra and he was brutally honest. I don't know about other Libras though.

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Let me quote a few lines from a Libra I so "intimately" know:

"Please stop saying that. If you really thought you were that ugly, you wouldn't constantly post pics of yourself. By repeating it in every post you're obviously just fishing for compliments."

"Ah yes, big talk comming out of a scrany little goof who doesn't even seem to know the defination of a geek. If you wanna see a dork, look no further then your own mirror; Going about exposing that scrawny little frame of his to prove what? That he can strip in front of a camera?"

posted August 05, 2007 01:55 PM            

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I can't believe Leo's even made the list. They, in my experience, are the most honest, at least in the bigger picture. They WILL lie if you're asking something that's none of your business to begin with and occasionally on other things but it's with good intentions-and they are still a force for good.

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posted August 05, 2007 02:10 PM              

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I must admit that you brought up a very good point about Sags not lying to you per se, but never telling the whole truth. Maybe that's why I always considered female sags to be dishonest? If someone doesn't tell me the entire truth, I consider it "lying,"--

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may be.. I mean offcourse it is you who would set your definition of 'truth'...

most sags dont tell the whole truth for they feel;

1. you wont understand it ... (yes, we strongly doubt it)

2. it is none of your business to know micro details.

3. it involves part of another person and we do not want to open it to you.

4. generally sags would tell it to a limit that if that is leaked out.. it is a blow that can be taken.. not a knockout.

posted August 05, 2007 05:05 PM            

I agree with your list of reasons why we may not divulge everything.

My first thought when I read Astra's statement was "Hmm... you are probably one of those people that tries to get everything out of another person and get "all the dirt", yet with a Sag, you get frustrated that we won't give you what is wanted".

I am not going to tell the secrets of my friends even if they cross into my life. I hate when people try to dig deep and "learn what makes me tick". Especially if what make me tick or a secret somehow can hurt someone I care about.

Most people really don't give a damn about the truth.. they only want what they want to hear- so I prefer to give them the reader's digest version and go on. That isn't a lie of omission, it is just a nice way of saying 'Mind your own business'.

IF it is something that needs to be told, then yes, I will give the whole truth- especially if it concerns helping someone, defending someone or doesn't harm another person unintentionally.

I think people confuse truth with gossip and drama. They WANT to hear the juicy details not because they care but because it gives them a chance to feed off of someone's drama. Those people can kiss my a$$ because I won't allow those I love to be used that way.

So, label me a liar... but when push comes to shove, you can tell me your secret and know it won't get out.

posted August 05, 2007 05:12 PM            

There ya have it.. 100% Truth from an Archer.

Maybe that is why we hold back

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posted August 05, 2007 05:28 PM            

I have been lied to by a few Pisceans and then there are other Pisceans who are very honest. Havn't been lied to by a Saggi yet...and the Libras I know don't lie period...they sugar coat but they don't lie. I think it all comes down to the individuals you know and not so much their sign.

As for the sign I most distrust in my life i would say usually Scorpio women and Capricorn men...and Virgos because they have been manipulative in my life. Thats not to say i have an AMAZINGLY close Scorpio female friend and quite a few close Capricorn males. Not to mention Virgos...so yea individuals people

posted August 05, 2007 05:29 PM            

Haha...yeah Libras aren't necessarily all sweet and proper. My friend (the only Libra I know) is brutally honest. His girlfriend asked him if she looked fat in her dress and he said that if she were to stand next to an elephant, the elephant would look anorexic! The poor girl burst into tears and ran off, leaving my Libra friend genuinely puzzled at her reaction. It took a while for me to get him to understand how badly he hurt her.

Highly Inflammable,

I understand what you're saying, but I wasn't really referring to telling the complete truth about really personal things. I admit that there are things about my past that I don't share until I completely trust someone, which is rare. And you're absolutely right that it's nobody's business what goes on in your personal life.

I meant to say that the sag females I know didn't tell the complete truth about little things.

For example, my former Sag friend had asked me to help her move out of her apartment. She told me to stop by at 1pm because first she was going to go to McDonald's to pick up some food for us.

At 1pm, I arrived in front of her apartment, ready to move all her belongings, but she wasn't there. There's a McDonald's 1 block away from her apartment so I walked over there to see if maybe she got caught in a long line. Much to my surprise she wasn't there. I walked back to her apartment and sat there like a fool waiting for her. After 15 minutes I called her cell, but she didn't answer. 45 minutes later she finally arrived, carrying the food and I asked her what happened. This was our conversation (paraphrased):
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Me: I was at McDonald's and didn't see you there.

Friend: Oh, I went to a McDonald's 50 miles away from here

Me: I see. Did you have errands to run and just stopped at a nearby McDonald's?

Friend: No. I drove straight there and drove straight back here. I didn't stop anywhere else.

Me [annoyed]: Well, why didn't you just go to the McDonald's near your apartment? I've been waiting here for almost an hour!

Friend: Well, I felt like driving today. It's not my fault you assumed that I would go to the McDonald's near my apartment!
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If she wanted to drive 50 miles to some other McDonald's simply because she felt like driving, then she could've just told me, so I wouldn't have wasted almost an hour of my time waiting for her. There is nothing deep and complicated about this whole scenario. What did she have to hide?

She technically told the truth that she was going to McDonald's but she neglected to mention that she was going to a McDonald's 50 miles away! Normally, I wouldn't care which fast food restaurant my friends go to, but when their choices involve them being inconsiderate and wasting my time, then I get angry.

Pidaua,

No, I'm not one of those nosy people who always has to know every last detail about someone's life. My former sag friend was like that. If my friend is crying, then I just provide a shoulder for them to cry on, but I don't demand details at that moment. When they're ready to tell me what's wrong, I ask for details IF I think I can help them solve their problem. If I can't solve their problem for them, I'll direct them to someone who can, and I'll leave it up to them to tell a counselor, for example, what's wrong.

And I'm never interested in learning about someone's weakness unless they hurt me or someone I care about. In that case, I just need to observe them for a few days (if I don't them well) or one day (if I know them well) to detect their weakness and afterwards, I use their weakness against then. Yes, it's cruel, but when someone hurts me or someone I care about, then I'll make sure they pay for their disloyalty.

Also, if someone asks me details about my personal life and if I don't want to say anything, then I just say "I don't feel comfortable discussing this right now." It's very simple. The statement is blunt, honest and doesn't give people the false impression that they know the complete truth.

posted August 05, 2007 06:04 PM            

I will say this, your friend is wacked to do something like that. I would attribute that more to her own personal issues than her sign. I could never do that to someone, especially a friend that is helping me move. If she felt like driving, she would have done it earlier and not put you out.

That was a very ungrateful thing for her to do. I, being the blunt person that I am, would have said a few choice things to her and left- she can move herself!

posted August 05, 2007 06:11 PM            

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ewww...back again Dulce? Thought you were going to ignore my posts. No surprise who made the top of the list.

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Sweety, I lied about nothing; I just couldn't ignore your stupidity.

posted August 05, 2007 06:22 PM            

I still helped her move because the previous week she had loaned me some money. After I helped her move and paid her back the money, I ended the friendship. I can't stand inconsiderate people.

posted August 05, 2007 06:44 PM            

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What happened Dulce...one of your skinny frenemies show up in bikini...probably a beautiful svelte Leo...and you're frustrated cuz you didn't have time to think of a vicious lie or emotional blackmail? You are pathetic sister. I hear Jenny Craig has a good deal right now. Why don't you try working on yourself for once instead of expecting everyone to pity you?

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posted August 05, 2007 07:01 PM            

I know I'm no supermodel and I my virgo moon never allows me to toot my own horn but here's my pic for you to see since I obviously need Jenny Craig.