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astrostudent
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posted September 10, 2006 04:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an Aries Rising (But a lib and Gemini moon..so mixed feelings)
Mars scorpio and venus Leo..shud make me strong,i guess??

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aquaspryt69
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posted September 10, 2006 10:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Assertiveness, strong personality and ability to confront. Hmmmmm, I've been told over the years I have a strong personality and am intimidating, and I have NO problem with confrontation. Just ask the local police
Hey, you mentioned nothing about stupidity.


Asc, Sun, Ven, Mer, Nep in Scorp
Pisces Moon
Aqua Mars
Taurus Saturn

Am waiting for a reading from Zala. Hopefully she will be able to explain to me which of these does what.


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posted September 10, 2006 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astronut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a Pisces with Aries rising and he isn't confrontational at all. Maybe because he has Sun, Mars and Mercury in the 12th...makes him suppress argumentative/confrontational urges.

I would imagine that having the Sun in an exalted house would make for an assertive personality.

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posted September 10, 2006 12:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say cardinals, especially cardinal sun/moon/asc. Appearance of assertivenss, even though there may be square aspects.

Also, fire signs especially Aries Sun and Mars. Sagittarius is assertive in a non-threatening way. Leo in a 'bow down before me' way.

Scorpio definitely.

Strong convictions: sun-mercury conjunctions.
Assertive personality: mars-sun/asc conjunctions

Also, first house mars, pluto, and sun.

*my 2cents

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WaterNymph
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posted September 10, 2006 01:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo Suns are pretty confrontational…they can be mean b*tches

Then there are those with a chip on their shoulder

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posted September 10, 2006 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Assertiveness or the ability to confront would be a dignified Mars
(Aries, Scorpio, Capricorn) in the natal
or

prominate (on an angle 1,4,7, or 10)

*you can add an 8th house Mars here too because Scorpio co-rules Mars*

or conjunct a planet.

Mars shows how you act out your Sun Sign.

A strong personality can be a lot of different things depending on the type (planet) of stregnth.

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Leo-Cancer98
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posted April 11, 2019 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lalalinda:
Assertiveness or the ability to confront would be a dignified Mars
(Aries, Scorpio, Capricorn) in the natal
or

prominate (on an angle 1,4,7, or 10)

*you can add an 8th house Mars here too because Scorpio co-rules Mars*

or conjunct a planet.

Mars shows how you act out your Sun Sign.

A strong personality can be a lot of different things depending on the type (planet) of stregnth.

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What makes you say that Mars shows how we act our our Sun Sign?

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Cancer Rising
2nd House Leo Sun
3rd House Leo Mercury
6th House Sagittarius Moon & Pluto
1st House Cancer Venus & Mars
9th House Pisces Jupiter conjunct MC.

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posted April 12, 2019 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting idea.

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posted April 15, 2019 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon conjunct Mars. Several people in my family have this. We're confrontational when we need to, and if we feel like we're being pushed to react, you might not always like our reaction. But always honest, direct, and blunt - to a fault.

My Scorpio MC makes confrontations inevitable. Even when I'm not looking for them, they fall in my lap.

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posted April 16, 2019 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't always like your reactions, but I appreciate your honesty, directness, and bluntness.

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posted April 17, 2019 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I don't always like your reactions, but I appreciate your honesty, directness, and bluntness.

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posted May 24, 2019 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted May 24, 2019 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for solarbry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries and Scorpio suns, moons, and mars I would consider confrontational.

Fire moons and Virgo suns are assertive.

Aries and Leo mars have strong personalities.

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posted May 26, 2019 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Libra 6th.
I have Opposite traits.

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http://imgur.com/hCRDawD

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posted May 27, 2019 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by solarbry:
Aries and Scorpio suns, moons, and mars I would consider confrontational.

Fire moons and Virgo suns are assertive.

Aries and Leo mars have strong personalities.


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posted May 28, 2019 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mercury is at 28 Aries opposite my moon/Pluto in 0 scorpio and I don't believe I've ever feared another person lol. I'm like a rottweiler in a Yorkie's body 😂 but I'm not confrontational, I just never back down. My sun, venus, and mercury are in the 12th though.

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posted May 30, 2019 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sleepthan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kind of in general: aspects containing planets like Pluto + Mars, Pluto + moon, Mars + moon.

If we're talking about assertive and more confrontational with strangers or on first meeting: Pluto and/or Mars in first house or square the ascendant (square can make a person accidentally come off as confrontational or aggressive). Also fire ascendants of course.

If we are talking about a determined personality: something like Pluto opposition Jupiter.

And for people who can easily be assertive with a strong personality but not necessarily aggressive or intimidating with strangers or the like, that's basically aries and leo mars, aries sun without a lot of inhibiting factors, or a lot of aries, leo or sag placements (Aries is more "assertive" while leo is more like "strong personality" I suppose).

There are a lot of factors that may produce these kinds of things, and factors that can produce the opposite traits too. It really depends bc there are different variants: Someone can be confrontational in emotional matters, aggressive but little ability to actually confront, etc etc etc.

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posted May 31, 2019 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Aries, Moon/Mars aspects

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posted June 02, 2019 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars-Jupiter aspects
Sun-Mars aspects
Sun/Mars in 1st house
Sun-Pluto aspects

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posted June 02, 2019 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ParallelToucan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What type of assertiveness are we dealing with here or is it just a generalization?

For example, my grandfather is a Taurus with his Mars in Virgo and he is very assertive as far as getting up every day and working outside. He is also a workaholic and has been that way his entire life. He put together his own band and played trumpet, guitar, and was a manager at many electronics stores/divisions.

I don't know if it was due to the Mars in Virgo, or just the fact the he's a Taurus and was raised to be a very hard worker.

I do believe that there are aspects that make individuals more prone to being assertive though, like Mars in Aries/Scorpio/Sag/Leo... etc....doesn't necessarily have to be those Mars signs though. Robin Shou is a Cancer with his Moon/Mars in Taurus and is a very assertive individual. I also have a friend that fights in MMA and he is a Mars in Taurus, he's also a Leo. There are just a lot of aspects to consider. It is an interesting thought though, a blend of lifestyle, or how a person was raised, to choices, to astrological chart tendencies, etc..... My Uncle (My grandpas son) is very assertive when it comes to being a salesman or dealing with customer service type stuff. He is an Aries with his Moon in Taurus and Mars in Leo. I have Mars in Aries in the 6th house and I'm very assertive when it comes to physical work. I was mad today that everyone at work was having pizza in the middle of me trying to get a job done. So, I went "over" to have a couple of pieces so that it would shut everyone up. Lol. I'd rather get my work done AND THEN have delicacies afterwards.

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posted June 03, 2019 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 04, 2019 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ParallelToucan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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