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Topic: PLACIDUS SYSTEM OVER KOCH
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pisces1234
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posted September 14, 2006 12:02 PM
 
Does anyone know if the Placidus system is more accurate than the Koch system. I have using Koch for years, but most people use Placidus. When I use Placidus my ascendant is about 9 degrees away from where it is with Koch. Also with Koch, sag and gem are intercepted, whereas with placidus, I have no intercepted houses. Thanks a lot.IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 14, 2006 01:54 PM
My guess is that Koch is the more accurate. I base that opinion on it being more modern. It seems like Koch was interested in improving Placidus.I'm surprised your ascendant moves that much with a simple house change between these systems. IP: Logged |
lovegoblin
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From: neverland
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 14, 2006 02:43 PM
i thought someone said
equal most accurate.
ok i'm confused again.IP: Logged |
pisces1234
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posted September 14, 2006 08:12 PM
AcousticGod you were correct to be concerned about it moving that much. My astro program didn't calculate the time zone correctly. It didn't move that much (as you thought), but I do have intercepted houses now. I think the Koch system is more in line with my life than placidus, but everyone uses placidus nowadays. I think I'll continue with Koch. Thanks.IP: Logged |
Rev. Alice
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posted September 17, 2006 10:49 AM
I recommend that, once you get a grasp of the basics, you experiment by running charts in both systems for a while. See which works best for you. I think that some systems work better for some types of minds and others for others.One exception: I do not consider equal house a valid system at all. I know of no one who gives equal attention to all 12 areas of life--and that is what equal house implies. ------------------
You are a blessing and you are blessed.
Rev. Alice
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Rev. Alice
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posted September 17, 2006 10:51 AM
P.S.
The Ascendant and Midheaven should remain the same in all systems (except on will be off in equal houses). If they are not, there is an error in the calculations.IP: Logged |
Peri
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From: 49N35 34E34
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 18, 2006 12:30 PM
It is not about which is more accurate...it is about the type of a native's personality.Most people live under the Placidus system, these people are influenced by their environment, society; they try and live in accordance with common rules and norms; they can be compared to Librans or sanguinians; People that live under the Koch system are loners by nature (though it may not be apparent) they are the ones that actually influence society and other people, they have their own system of values and they will do anything to survive or/and succeed; they can be compared to Arians or cholerics; The Equal system is mostly used for psychological not event desciption of the chart;
Planets in signs = how, planets in houses = where; I agree with Rev. Alice and don't use it at all either. The Jamasp system can be applied when drawing the charts of yogis, spiritual leaders, mediums, psychics; The Regimontanus system is usually used in elective astrology, especially in the charts of catastrophes, sudden disturbances etc; Btw a native may switch from one house system to another depending on what's going on in their life and how they deal with it; My 2 cents  IP: Logged |
Stargazer
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From: just left of center
Registered: May 2009
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posted September 18, 2006 01:19 PM
This confuses me alot...My chart changes ALOT using Koch.....Placidus:
Saturn in the 2nd
7th house holds:
Pallas
Jupiter
Vertex
Stellium of Ceres, Sun, Merc Venus 8th house:
Juno
Pluto
Uranus
Part. Fort. So if thats not enough to wrap yourself around... if I use Koch or Equal it changes to: Saturn in the 3rd
7th house:
Pallas, Jupiter, Vertex 8th house
Stellium Sun, Ceres, Merc. Venus
Pluto
Uranus
Juno
Part. Fort.
That is a big difference....I wouldn't know where to start with all that in the 8th...
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Knowflake Posts: 250
From: The Strand
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2006 07:31 AM
Q: where can you get electronic access for koch and placidus on the net? Astro.com presumably only does placidus with the geocentric -western-tropical setting. IP: Logged |
Stargazer
Knowflake Posts: 46
From: just left of center
Registered: May 2009
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posted September 19, 2006 10:42 AM
23... I got the chart using Koch and Equal at Astro.com...under extended chart selection..
The default is placidus. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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From: Pleasanton, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2006 01:33 PM
I've never been a fan of Equal myself.IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 250
From: The Strand
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posted September 19, 2006 05:29 PM
Stargazer-duh! Thanks for help, was looking at the wrong button! No changes with my chart using Koch at all. IP: Logged |
Rev. Alice
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posted September 21, 2006 09:33 AM
To Peri
I found your comments about Placidus and Koch
quite interesting and perhaps they explain something.
Although I normally use Placidus, occasionally intuition tells me to switch to Koch for a particular chart.
Thanks for the explanation. I never heard it before.
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astro junkie
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posted September 23, 2006 04:37 AM
... oh this is going to be fun ...------------------
... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness IP: Logged |
MUSTANG
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posted October 07, 2006 03:08 AM
hmmm...my venus moves from the 8th to the 7th in kochMy chiron and Pof F moves from the 12th to the 11th. Now to figure out which is more accurate. IP: Logged |
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