posted October 02, 2006 07:46 PM              

Also, a strong fear of betrayal makes these people extremely clingy. They obsess over the possibility that a person will deceive them, to the point where it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

posted October 02, 2006 09:15 PM              

My moon is in Scorpio, and yes it is a very hard placement to have. Like Dulce said, we are very loyal. We're also very scared of losing the people we love, even if we can't admit it sometimes. That's the problem sometimes- admitting that we DO care. Scorpio moons can hide a lot of stuff and they can be very secretive. I open up a lot more easily about my feelings now, but it was very very hard for me to express my feelings when I was growing up.

posted October 03, 2006 07:42 AM              

1)He almost always assumed the worst. For instance at very key times in our relationship when I was having a heart to heart, he took my "yes" as a sign that I was dumping him. I tried to set the record straight, but to no avail at least not until he figured it out on his own.

2) Very into mystery (he was a Taurus sun so I am assuming this obsession with mystery was his moon talking). Like he would never accept things at face value, he searched for deeper/hidden meaning.

posted October 03, 2006 09:23 AM            

I think it's a very tricky placement until you've matured and "evolved" and can maybe understand your emotions better. After which, it seems to do great things, from my experiences!

My younger sister has a scorpio moon. Being a leo sun and a scorpio ascendant as well, you can imagine how explosive she is!!! Constantly switching between fire and ice! Her temper is unbearable sometimes, and being a dramatic leo, she can over react to the slightest of things! It drives me bananas! She over emotional, and freely admits to being a very jealous person- especially in relationships. I know she struggles daily to control her emotions, and it must be very tough at times. She is young, at only 19 and is still finding out about herself. It will get smoother for her as she matures- I can see that and so can she!
I have to say, that I love her dearly and wouldn't want her any other way. She cannot contain the imense strength and willpower inside her forever, and I truly believe she has a certain "star quality" that very few people are made with. She seems magical and is highly attractive. Her loyalty to those she loves is outstanding, and in rare moments of humilty, she seeks to understand herself better and do the right thing. She's very funny- she and I have each other in fits at times! I think with her acute intelligence, she will go far....!

posted October 03, 2006 09:24 AM            

Being an aquarius moon isn't always a bed of roses!!!

posted October 03, 2006 10:04 AM              

I feel it gives a brooding and smouldering sexuality

Just take a look at Mr Feinnes...doesnt he just typify the deeply passionate and tortured Heathcliffe.

Moon in Scorpio

In your personal life, you have an ability to see through others' pretenses and find the truth underneath. You can use this talent in your relationships to identify and correct problems; just be sure to do it benevolently instead as a manipulation. Sex is a very intense experience for you, and it is a valuable method of communication with your lover. Just be sure your lover is looking for the same intensity that you are; some people may find it too much to handle.

posted October 03, 2006 04:29 PM              

"He almost always assumed the worst. For instance at very key times in our relationship when I was having a heart to heart, he took my "yes" as a sign that I was dumping him. I tried to set the record straight, but to no avail at least not until he figured it out on his own."

posted October 03, 2006 04:43 PM              

i also seem to jump into one relationship after the other. i cant STAND being alone, i always need a love interest! thats what gets me in2 trouble..REBOUND relationships. i also make sure i never get dumped..i think that would be the end of me...i always end relationships b4 they do...BUT my instinct was right the last time..i was right to get paranoid as the guy was a DIRTY DAWG. we have an intuition beyound belief...if i wish for something to happen in a relationship it usually happens. b4 i wished my ex to see me meeting my new man (flashy car) and 2 minutes later...my ex walks by so i made a point of stalling him and talking 2 him until my new guy arrived...creul, i know...but i'm kinda revengful...even if the person truly hasnt done me anything bad...i like to hurt people i love..its like they made me love them, they made me weak..SO NOW TEHY HAVE 2 PAY! harsh love eh?!

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posted October 03, 2006 06:05 PM              

He would comment that he didn't want to ruin the special thing we had when there was no reason or anything happening that would make anyone feel that it should be ruined. I would say "What, do YOU PLAN on ruining what we have? I don't."

It seems his paranoia and his trying to control the outcomes of thinks and always thinking the outcome is going to be negative is what in turns does ruin things for him.

Are you a Leo Sun? I know most Leos NEVER want to get dumped. They have too much pride and want to feel in control.

Yeah, that line is pretty harsh. Just be careful because what you wish upons others will come back to you in the scheme of things..so if you hurt others expect the same in return.

What about loving someone makes you feel weak?

What do you get out of hurting people you love?

posted October 03, 2006 06:26 PM              

Are you a Leo Sun?

Yeah i am! and yep its definately my pride...i'm not used to being rejected i hate it. i hate being let down and "thrown away" as such...i'm very emotional and get hurt easily...

What about loving someone makes you feel weak?

Its like i feel controlled and auto feel that they r gona manipulate me and make a fool out of me..i think this goes back to a friendship i had with 2 other girls. one was a scorpio, one was also a leo like me...they had this personal vendetta against me..they would write love letters to me (pretending it was from a boy the knew) and i really thought it was him, and from then i haven't trusted any1 whos says they love me..sad eh...i havent admitted that 2 anybody b4 in my life!

What do you get out of hurting people you love?

I feel its "payback" to that imaginary lover those girls created...stupid i know...and i also have this thing where i think men dont REALLY love any ONE woman and i just dont BELIEVE they can have deep feelings...i am like a guy with guys and when they talk about what they do behind their girls back i cant help but think its happening to me and i'm being made a FOOL out of...hmmm thanks for helping me vent my demons!

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posted October 03, 2006 07:48 PM            

My girlfriend has Moon in Scorpio conjunct Pluto,and she's very deep,intense,passionate,loyal,devoted,strongwilled.and focused,perceptive, and doesn't waver. She has a bachelor's in psychology. She easily knocks sense into me including getting me let go of the past that I forgave my mother for verbally/physically abusing me and the psychiatrists for misdiagnosing me. She penetrates me to the core of my soul. She makes me see things about myself that I don't like and leads me to want to change. She's been a major catharsis in my life. She's just the best thing in my life.

posted October 03, 2006 08:29 PM            

My gal's Scorpio Moon conjuncts my Scorpio Sun with 3'56 orb.
My Sun conjunct her Moon-Saturn conjunction in Scorpio in 7th.
My Scorpio Sun,Mercury,and Venus are in her 8th house.

Her Aries Sun,Mercury,and Mars are in my 8th house.
Her Sun conjuncts my Chiron in 8th with 1'18 orb.
Her 8th house ruler,Mars(traditional ruler of Scorpio) is in my 8th house sextile my Mars with 25 minutes of arc.

posted October 06, 2006 07:13 AM            

just because 'everybody's doing IT, doesn't mean IT is a good thing. who’s ‘everybody’?

I have a Sco Moon, also Conj Uranus (ruler of my Asc). a bit of an aqua moon flavor - sort-to-speak. it gives me the ability to detach from my emotions, sometimes.

there's nothing wrong with being passionate about things, and there's no being 'too intense'. I find it questionable to want to go through life being so darn bored and uninvolved all the time.
and the irony of it is that the same people who tell me to ‘cool down’ and put me down for being 'too' …energized, involved, passionate, motivated, etc, are so 'surprised' when my results are faar better than theirs: 'how did you do that?', or…. ' how do u keep so thin?', 'how do you have all that energy?' etc-etc.

the 'why-bother' wanna-bees. Don’t let them put you down or make you feel bad about yourself!

posted October 06, 2006 07:14 AM            

and we, scorpio moons - i think we have guilt built in our fabric, or something. we're always jumping at the chance of being guilty for one thing or another - even if it is beyond controllable. (maybe b/c we do try to control things, to keep them from going bad)

hard-placement cos we constantly go against the current (in our comfort, sugar and light-entertainment culture); but that's NOT a reason to disown yourself. (they secretly wish for a passionate and intense life

shirty - it took me a looong time (and my cappy sun-venus in the 11th) to learn how to pick the right people as friends. nowadays, being deceived by friends is rather common - so it's not sco-moon paranoia; it's common sense and taking relationships seriously (and being perceptive, as someone said); one cannot be loyal to ppl who stab one in the back.

taurus/gemini cusp - i think that jealousy comes from perceiving those invisible threads that make relationships work, and also realizing that one cannot consciously control or manipulate them. does this make sense to you?

candy_c123 - be more careful, PLZ! that “jumping from one rel to another, always needing company, fear of getting dumped, showing off your new man in a flashy way”, etc that’s a LEO THING! (as AppleLove also points out); sco moon already have a lot to put up with - don't throw that load on our shoulders.

glad Glaucus brought up his mum. that's a more fair way to talk about a sco-moon, i guess. (though I'm sorry she abused you as a child; hope you too make the best of it)

posted October 06, 2006 10:31 AM            

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donna cunningham wrote an amazing 'moon signs' book. she says that sco moons are born into mothers who resent being there for another (ie the baby), so they grow up feeling guilty for having been born, having needs, or expressing them at all. in this line of thought, needing to be loved (and wanted) is an understatement. she also says that naturally), the mum who resents having to put her own needs second, ends up unconsciously! abusing the child (psychological and verbal abuse=the worst - the child cannot defend itself). so, as many times, the abused child takes the abusive pattern forward - to his/her own children. until she/he becomes aware of all the pain and resentments, and learns to let it go, and accept that they - too - have the right to live, and deserve to be loved.

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Gawd, If I ever hated a quote more, you'd know about it.

What about the astrologers who have sired Scorpio Moons?
My son has a Scorpio Moon.. there is NO WAY I'd identify with that statement in even an unconscious way.... no little niggling feeling, no nothing. It is utter crap.
I do not resent my son, I honour him.
I've heard this theory before, and it never fails to **** me off. Way to overblow the psychological ramifications.
The underlying reasons are mysteries. Just like the whole of Astrology.Doesn't mean it isn't viable or applicable, but it does mean that we can't always explain it with psychobabble for the masses in order to sell books.

Glaucus.... Your woman sounds spectacular for you. I am so glad you've found each other so profoundly. I'm a Scorpio woman with an Aries Sun man. We are both fourth house suns, and our Capricorn Moons conjunct. I like the combination of Aries/Scorpio. ( generally) BUt I have quite a few fire placements and influences...... that might help me to understand .......