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Topic: Natal indicators for OCD?
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Maire31 Newflake Posts: 10 From: here there and everywhere Registered: May 2009
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posted October 12, 2006 10:08 PM
Hello all,I can't seem to get any results in the search (I get a blank white window) when looking for old threads... I'm wondering if anyone has any knowledge about natal indicators that suggest/imply OCD (mental health disorders). My limited knowledge (I am a novice) makes me think Uranus,Mercury,Pluto,3rd House could be involved. I'm just not experienced enough to put it all together. Any help would be welcome Gratefully, Marianne IP: Logged |
Taurus80 Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 12, 2006 11:59 PM
i don't know much about that..but welcome Marianne IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 13, 2006 12:33 AM
Here is my 2 centsI don't believe that there are any clear cut astrological indicators for mental health disorders. There aren't any clear cut astrological indicators for neurodivergent conditions(autistic spectrum disorders,learning disorders,and attention deficit disorders). The symptoms of mental health disorders and neurodivergent conditions can overlap. Autistic spectrum disorders and Dyspraxia can involve obsessive-compulsive behaviors. This is coming from a Dyslexic,Dyspraxic.
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carlfloydfan unregistered
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posted October 13, 2006 02:47 AM
any "abnormal" behavior (like OCD) is socially constructed...IP: Logged |
chrononaut unregistered
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posted October 13, 2006 03:02 AM
I think my mum has this. She's a Cancer Sun, Uranus&Merc.conj. that Sun. Early degrees of Leo. OCD all the way.
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chrononaut unregistered
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posted October 13, 2006 03:06 AM
That Cancer Sun...along w/ UranMerc is in the 7th.luv ya mum. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 unregistered
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posted October 13, 2006 05:01 AM
I know someone with OCD (as well as a general anxiety disorder AND anorexia) who is a Cancer sun and Leo ascendant. Very sensitive with the Cancer sun, and I've read that a water sun combined with fire ascendant tends to make a person anxious. Jupiter in the ascendant plus the Cancer sun gave her a face shape/body type she hated, which was a factor in the anorexia and OCD. Mercury is also Leo but I don't know how much difference that makes. I'm wondering if a harshly aspected Neptune could lead to the delusions involved in the compulsive behaviour. Pluto must surely be involved as well? IP: Logged |
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posted October 13, 2006 05:05 AM
I just checked and Pluto is square her sun and moon. Not sure what that would mean in regard to the OCD though.IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted October 13, 2006 10:53 AM
Marie... Hi! and Welcome I have a friend who is OCD / Manic/ and has anxiety issues. He is on a boatload of Meds. Which with regards to the OCD makes him just the opposite. Where he was "overly concerned" (anal)...he now does not care at all. He's completely undependable on all fronts..I don't know which is worse. There can never seem to be a happy medium... However, some things in his chart that stuck out to me are: Leo Rising square Sun Sun- Scorpio 4th Saturn-Capricorn- 6th (I've read that Saturn in the 6th can be prone to depresion) Mercury- Scorpio -3rd sq. Jupiter (has a hard time with the truth) Pluto and Uranus in the 1st Mars square Uranus (angry) Neptune 3/4th All his planets are in houses 1-6 it is very much all about him. His mother is also depressed which also leads me to believe that he is very much a product of his environment. I hope this helps and I mean no offense to anyone else that may have these placements or aspects... I'm no expert...just observant. I also have my own obsessive tendancies...Pluto inthe 8th. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 13, 2006 01:06 PM
I actually have a diagnosed generalized anxiety disorder,dysthymic disorder,and avoidant personality disorder. I don't have strong fire. I have strong Water. Anxiety is connected to fear.Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd. T SQUARE is the main indicator for my history of anxiety and depression. That configuration can reflect my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and special education history,and my insecurity about my intelligence. As a Dyspraxic, I do have a history of being obsessive-compulsive. I have Sun in Scorpio in 2nd,Mercury conj Venus in Scorpio in 3rd along with Pluto in 1st. My Virgo Ascendant is a such a worrier and is afraid of making mistakes, but that is more about my fear of people thinking that I am stupid because of my Dyslexic,Dyspraxic. I was known as "retarded" as a little child when I was in special education. Like many learning disabled,I compensate all the time to strongly cover my weakness by utlizing my strengths. That's also because I don't want people to think that I am stupid,and so I do my best to minimize mistakes. It all makes sense. You will find that anxiety,depression,and obsessive compulsiveness is common in neurodivergent people like myself. It's based on our difficulties of not fitting in the norm,being seen/treated/called "stupid",and our feelings of inadequacy. Insecurity and low self esteem tends to be our greatest weaknesses. They could destroy us. That's what happened to my father who had had Dyslexic,Dyspraxic traits who had anger and drug issues that he was out of my life since I was 1 yrs old. Being a black man born in 1941,life wasn't easy for him. Blacks were often thought as being less intelligent. Being an awkward,clumsy black man with speech and auditory processing problems definitely make look less intelligent. He was also diagnosed a schizophrenic by prison psychiatrists in a time where many blacks have been misdiagnosed as having schizophrenia. But my mom is white. Living life as a mixed person has always been an issue in my life too. beware that people with hard Neptune aspects can be misdiagnosed and be hypersensitive to drugs including medications. That's definitely me too. I was diagnosed schizoaffective Bipolar disorder because of my Dyspraxic,Dyslexic-related speech by psychiatrists but they didn't know about my special education history that included speech therapy. I am an awkward,clumsy person with speech and auditory processing problems like my father. I shared a similar fate as my father in regards to misdiagnosing me because of my neurodivergence. A lot of psychiatrists see irritability as mania way too much,and forget that it is also a symptom of depression and anxiety. It even says so in DSM-IV-TR Diagnostic Stastical Manual of Mental Disorders. So being angry and having rages isn't necessarily bipolar, it could be depression and even anxiety. Also many neurodivergent people can have emotional meltdowns...especially people on the autistic spectrum disorder. It's really important that we distinguish the mentally ill from the neurodivergent. Both have something in common..they don't fit the norms of society. The norms get narrower and narrower. IP: Logged |
MermaidDreamz Knowflake Posts: 528 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted August 12, 2016 01:22 PM
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Soltze Knowflake Posts: 1179 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted August 12, 2016 03:30 PM
My mother...Virgo ASC, Virgo Sun...Sag MoonI've never seen such a well of anxiety, repetition and cleaning obssession. IP: Logged |
colorful butterfly Knowflake Posts: 518 From: Durham north carolina usa Registered: May 2015
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posted August 12, 2016 05:14 PM
I have OCD and I have Cancer sun, virgo rising. I think this combo does it for me. Virgo is details and Cancer sensitivity. O think on something forever, great for problem solving. Lol (everything has it's pros and cons. Gemini mars and venus, scattered energy and the need to be intellectual plus talkative. Mercury and Jupiter in leo, sensitive to my opinions. IP: Logged |
PlutoSurvivor Moderator Posts: 2231 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted August 13, 2016 08:32 PM
OCD behaviors - I've got 2 OCD charts. Both have afflicted Mercury and afflicted Mars. Both have anaretic Pluto.One has heavy Virgo personal planets, the other strong Neptune. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 332 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted August 15, 2016 12:01 AM
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girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 332 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted August 15, 2016 12:13 AM
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colorful butterfly Knowflake Posts: 518 From: Durham north carolina usa Registered: May 2015
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posted August 19, 2016 08:47 PM
If anyone would like to look at my chart, unfortunately I can't post it one here because I use my phone for the internet . I was born July 2 1979 at 1235 pm in Greensboro NC. I have had ocd dx for the last 10 years.IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte Knowflake Posts: 708 From: astral plane Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 22, 2016 01:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: This afflicted mercury aspect in particular, makes it very hard for me most of the time to relax. The only times I am sane, calm and able to focus is when I am involved with martial arts, yoga, swimming, arts, writing, and other creative areas. I need to be physically and mentally stimulated all the time. It is frustrating a bit. I am a workaholic too.
I can relate to this a lot. My mind is constantly dissecting everything, I need constructive and creative outlets or I can get myself lost in these eternal loops.. I have a t-square between my libra sun/Mars/merc conjunction in 6th house square cap Saturn/Neptune/Uranus 9th, uranus cusp of 8/9 opposite cancer Jupiter 3rd. Tons of restless energy! I was held back for ADD and "dyslexia" and in the past I've been diagnosed with depressive disorders.. Although I don't really believe them or in categorizing myself.. But I certainly can swing to the edge, and go to extremes mentally. I still suffer from depression, every so often I just get overwhelmed and melancholic. I also have my Venus in Scorpio conj Pluto on DC, if anything I feel like I'm chronically suspicious and skeptical.. I analyze sooo much, get waay to deep into things that I'll give myself mental breakdowns, just drive myself insane processing all these different layers of stimuli. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 71125 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2016 11:40 AM
Agreed about Virgos.IP: Logged |