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kaira
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posted October 26, 2006 06:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when cheated upon, are these people very destructive and revengeful? cause i'm feeling like that right now..

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Glaucus
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posted October 26, 2006 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have Venus in Scorpio.
Yeah we can be.

The goal is to eliminate,let go..
not be held back in the past and be resentful but forgive and move on.

Phoenix is Scorpio's highest form.

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kaira
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posted October 26, 2006 06:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Phoenix?

and the problem for me is i CANT let go. I want to see him suffer somehow, the way he's made me. I want to let go, desperately, but I don't know how.

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted October 26, 2006 06:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi kaira. Sorry this happened to you.

I also have Venus in Scorp. I've had similar impulses after any kind of betrayal, although I've never acted on them.

Hold you head up high. The best revenge is living well.

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kaira
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posted October 26, 2006 06:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you, and i guess you're right. i just want people to see what a stupid **** he is, and cause him so much pain. it's pretty psychotic. but i know i wouldn't stoop that low. i will keep my head up high, and walk on. but i have this feeling that there will be no feelings of loss on his side. i want him to realise what he's done, and miss me so bad. while i walk away, and move on. sorry, people probably might not care what i'm saying. but i just need some kind of relief.

and believe it or not, i sensed this happening ages ago. i even made a thread considering if we were compatible or not, because i knew this was coming, long before anything happened.

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posted October 26, 2006 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then the highest expression of this sign is the Phoenix Resurrected. These Scorpios are detached and extremely powerful. They are wise beyond their years and act as leaders and are an inspiration to others. Quite frequently a Scorpio goes through the three levels of evolvement in one lifetime - but the levels can operate out of sequence.

In ancient Egyptian mythology and in myths derived from it, the phoenix or phœnix is a mythical sacred firebird.

Said to live for 500 or 1461 years (depending on the source), the phoenix is a bird with beautiful gold and red plumage. At the end of its life-cycle the phoenix builds itself a nest of cinnamon twigs that it then ignites; both nest and bird burn fiercely and are reduced to ashes, from which a new, young phoenix arises. The new phoenix embalms the ashes of the old phoenix in an egg made of myrrh and deposits it in the Egyptian city of Heliopolis ("the city of the sun" in Greek). The bird was also said to regenerate when hurt or wounded by a foe, thus being almost immortal and invincible — a symbol of fire and divinity.

Although descriptions (and life-span) vary, the phoenix (Bennu bird) became popular in early Christian art, literature and Christian symbolism, as a symbol of Christ, and further, represented the resurrection, immortality, and the life-after-death of Jesus Christ.

Originally, the phoenix was identified by the Egyptians as a stork or heron-like bird called a benu, known from the Book of the Dead and other Egyptian texts as one of the sacred symbols of worship at Heliopolis, closely associated with the rising sun and the Egyptian sun-god Ra. After the a dramatic climate shift in the lower half of the Earth, the Phoenix was frozen and is now more commonly known as a penguin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(mythology)

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tinasparkle
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posted October 26, 2006 06:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have Venus in Scorpio and I don't know about voilent revenge, but a long time ago I was cheated on and so I began dating the guys brother. It certainly made me feel better and as it turned out his brother was a really nice guy and helped me transition from "bad boys" to "nice guys". I was cheated on one other time, but the universe sort of took care of that and really humiliating things kept happening to him. I had nothing to do with it, really! I can certainly understand the impulse though.

Tinasparkle

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted October 26, 2006 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ermmm....my bf's ex gf is a Venus in Scorpio...she still hates me and its been a year. So vengeful, perhaps, tho i think i would be more vengeful. But i would think so

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shirty
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posted October 26, 2006 07:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another Venus in Scorpio here.. definitely feel the same way when I've been cheated on. Again, never acted on it, but my thoughts were pretty horrible..

We take matters of love very intensely so it's difficult to handle that kind of a happening.. I agree with the advice above, just grow from this and show the world who you are and that you a better than that..

i hope you feel better
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Hexxie
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posted October 26, 2006 07:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have Venus in Scorpio.

Kaira please don't feed this guy any more energy at all, good or bad. You wanna lash out at him because your anger is covering over your deep hurt right now. Cut him loose completly! Maybe you can do a 'cutting of the cords' ritual or something to make yourself feel better. If you look at it this way... if you can somehow get yourself to a point where you get all those emotions out on your own, without any revenge on him, then you will not keep this circle-cycle going in this life (or the next if you believe in that kind of thing)! I mean, with revenge you'd still have to see him again at some point. Or at least have thoughts of him clouding your mind. Yuck. Let it all out to your close trusted friends. This too shall pass. Sending you some energy for your pain

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`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
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illusions_fool
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posted October 26, 2006 09:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is Venus in Scorpio like in relationships? Out of curiosity.

~Rebekka

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Lady Dee
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posted October 26, 2006 10:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Venus in Scorpio -- I don't like having it. I like this description.

Love is something of an emotional battlefield for you. When you give your heart you give it completely, with an intensity and committment that could easily scare the faint-of-heart. You are a passionate soul, and you are fully aware of the importance of sexuality in making a relationship complete. Fear of loss and rejection makes you manipulative, and gives you problems with jealousy. You would like to have a love that lasts for life, but often sabotage permanance because of an inner insecurity.

(sighs)

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astronut
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posted October 27, 2006 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astronut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rebekka: Intense. They give their all and expect likewise from their partner. So they get very bent out of shape when there's any kind of unfaithfulness - physical or emotional. Most likely of all the Venus signs to hack into their partner's email, stalk a crush, or hire a P.I. (I and other Venus in Scorp people have done all of those things...tsk tsk.) But they are also the most likely of all the Venus signs to make you the center of their world. Not a good match for someone who wants plenty of freedom in a relationship.

kaira: I used to feel that way too but I burned out over time. I'm too tired now from all the vengefulness in my early 20's.

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kindjali
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posted October 27, 2006 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Scorpio...hmmm
My ex has it...powerful, dominating indeed...
Revengeful, of course.
Paradox is that she was revengeful, but her revenge hadnt any source for it, except I didnt want to be manipulated and say "YES" on every her word. I think she was revengeful, because she let herself in her feelings. How is possible that I had so much emotional influence of her?

K.

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jani_jean
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posted October 27, 2006 02:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another venus in scrop.It wud compel me to totally ignoring the person as if he never existed esp when he is around say in a public place and making him see i am far better without him ...yes vengeful will also be my impulse..maybe a scronful bitter mail venting out , or doing soemthing he will rmeber throughout life leaving a scar will all be too tempting
Its vvvvvvvvvvv hard tackling this venus in scorp i tell u ..

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sue g
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posted October 27, 2006 06:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I have it....

Yes
Yes
Yes

To what everyone else said....it can be DEADLY !!!!

I dont believe anyone who has this placement can escape from feelings of jealousy and revenge...its very powerful indeed...

Lots of therapy helps

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alanabelle86
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posted October 27, 2006 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is interesting because yesterday morning I was actually going to make this same exact post, but I didn't get home in time. And when I came back, I saw that this post was already made


Yes, extremely so. I have this placement as well. Makes me so damn passionate about everything...especially revenge and jealousy. Its hard to control it too, becuase I know for me at times, I tell myself I'm being ridiculous, but at the same time. Saying one thing, and feeling something else is entirely different...

I would think ina cheating situation, Venus would lend towards more how I felt and what I WANT to do, while my Mars (Aquarius) would be what I actually do.

I know when I get angry enough (like the level I would if I was cheated on, which I havent reached yet..thank god because the gates of hell would fly open and unleash chaos on everything in my path..), my reaction is to turn my anger inwards and dramatically detach myself. Like no communication, no acknowledgement what so ever. I can look at a person as if there's nothing but air in front of me, no matter how close we were 2 minutes ago.

Feelings wise, I'd want to be the destroyer of the person's life. And I'd hold that grudge like nobody's business..

phew, I can't think of this anymore, it's getting me all riled up just to think about. Cuz I'd suspected my Sag boyfriend of cheating once ( okay, not cheating but talking to another girl verrrry suspiciously after I found out he lied about going out somewhere with her as *friends*), and though it was pure suspicion, that was N O T pretty.

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illusions_fool
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posted October 27, 2006 09:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Scorpio sounds like the kind of partner I'd like to have. Funny how the people who would like to find someone with that placement never seems to come across them. :/

~Rebekka

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1scorp
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posted October 27, 2006 09:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If someone does something like that to me, I generally just cut my losses and move on. NOTE: This only applies to something done to me..... not my family and/or friends. I'm much more likely to get upset and confrontational when someone is affecting my loved ones.

I won't allow anyone to affect me that much. This sounds sort of mean, but if someone is being immature in words and/or actions, I just pity them and move on with my life with focus and determination to be a better person.

On a side-note: I've just recently in the past 2 years or so started leaning more towards this direction. I've always waffled with feelings... now if I'm hurt to a mind boggling point, I just shut down... they can't touch me emotionally or mentally. I guess you could say that they're dead to me.

I know it sounds silly, but after years of doing this, karma has proved to take care of things for me.

These people can't go all through their lives being liars, manipulators, cheats, etc. without it biting them in the arse eventually.

The one amusing trend that I notice is that when their karma has come full circle back, they almost never realize that the issues they are dealing with are usually due to what they've put out onto others.

As for the cheating bit... it hasn't happened to me (fortunately, crosses fingers not to jinx myself). I would think I would let them know how their actions made me feel... then just go on with life. Even though I'm sure when I tell them how they made me feel, it wouldn't be very nice or pretty... shutters thinking of how full of rage I'd most likely become.

I mean, do you really want to throw that much energy into someone that would lie and deceive you like that? Those 2 qualities aren't on my desirable traits list.

Edit - This made me think of a conversation I was having with a male Taurus friend... We were talking about how a few movie stars have come out and said that humans aren't designed to be monogamous.

I told him that if men aren't designed to be monogamous, than I don't want one.

It's a flaw that I can't tolerate very well. I'm very monogamous, so therefore in my mind, the person I'm with should be equally so.

NOTE: I'm not saying that my way is the law for everyone... just for me.

My Scorpio venus in conjunct Uranus.

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posted October 27, 2006 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kaira,

Oh boy do I understand! I've got venus in scorp too, and I had a guy that I was madly in love with about 5 years ago cheat on me several times. It made my blood boil to a point that I cannot describe. It was all consuming. I started having the most visceral, unsettling dreams. I fantasized and dreamt about the most violent scenarios toward him and/or his other lover - not for the faint of heart. They usually involved me with a metal baseball bat and skull crushing, all the while screaming to them that they "will never, EVER disrespect me"...yeah, not kidding. Mind you, I'm a pisces moon (although it's in the 8th) and I'm usually very peace loving and non-confrontational, so these thoughts and dreams really upset me.

When I finally had enough of it and ended the relationship, it took me the better part of 4 years to get over it, but the relationship itself only lasted 2 1/2.

I can definitely relate to what you're going through...

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BlueEyes24
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posted October 27, 2006 09:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, Venus in Scorpio here...it's hard for us to let go of things, and we're very suspicious. Try having Moon in Scorpio too.

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sue g
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posted October 27, 2006 09:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is so comforting to know others understand....

Thanks guys for yer honesty....



Sue
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posted October 27, 2006 09:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
kindjali: Your statement made a good point.

I work with a Scorpio... we got along (and still do now) until I didn't agree with something that was said.... good grief. Are we all like that? I hope not.

I mean come on... everyone is different... just because we see things differently doesn't mean anything. There aren't always hidden motives behind everything. Sometimes yes... always... no... and no one is "always" right.

This is coming from someone that has a few Scorpio placements herself.

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scorpluv
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posted October 27, 2006 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Guys... Venus in Scorpio here as well... Just chiming in here with the need for revenge and all, especially after deception... My lessons on cheating (It's happened to me several times) is this... Don't worry about what they've done to you, that's already been done... The best revenge in life is living your life... It's a hard lesson to learn especially when your natural inclination is to strike back.. But in the end, your only destroying yourself... You've enabled someone to effect you and that isn't how you should live your life... Remember, IT'S YOUR LIFE!!! No one has the power to make you sad or glad except yourself... A cheating person is only denying themselves... yes, they have hurt you but with hurt comes growth... Any time I have ended a relationship due in infidelity I have always come out stronger and better off in the end.. First I had to forgive myself, then that person... Believe me, Venus in Scorpio people are hard to forget... You can ask any ex-bf I've ever had and they will tell you, our (Venus in Scorpio) propensity to shut a person out that has proven unworthy is so much more hurtful than any revenge you may seek... The ability to blank that person out of our existance is an art form not many people have mastered. In time you will realize that you have a power beyond imagine and someone worthy of such an intense love and devotion will revel in such a sweet gift... Much love and God bless... TTFN

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CrankyCap
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posted October 27, 2006 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just another quick observation - from what I've read here, it seems that the folks with additional (and stronger) Scorp placements, actually have an easier time dealing with this kind of thing as opposed to those of us with just one or two smaller planets in scorp - especially venus. The scorp suns I've known, although not necessarily the moons, seem to easily just completely cut off someone who's wronged them without ever looking back. This is a very enviable trait as far as I'm concerned, but I think for me with my main scorp influence being venus, which rules specifically over my love life, it can be very difficult for me to let go once I have loved and been betrayed. The vengeance factor consumes me for a very long time.

....Scorpluv....

Been meaning to email you...I've had an interesting development in my life of late...I'll have to tell you about it. It's actually something good! hahaha!

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