posted October 28, 2006 07:21 AM              

I for example sometimes look at the rulers of 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th and 8th house.
I discovered that I react very strongly to men, who aspect my Moon. Well, no surprise here, but I don`t react purely emotionally to them, but feel very much physically attracted to them, and Moon happens to be the ruler of my 8th house. That attraction is especially strong, if the aspecting planet is ruler of a significant house in the other horoscope, too.
An aspect between my ruler of the 8th house and the ruler of the 1st house in the other horoscope, ignites very strong passions to the point of obsessions in me; just like an aspect of Pluto and Mars.
Does anyone have experienced something like this, too?

posted October 30, 2006 02:58 AM              

See what I mean?

DD

posted November 02, 2006 04:28 AM              

I think it's a very interesting question.

Bluntly, I would just say that the answer to your first question is a big "duh, yeah...". I don't mean that as an insult at all, but as in my head I believe the Planet Aspects (& the goings on between them) can be more sensitive than looking at the Signs the Planets are in.

So the answer to me is, those Aspects which focus on the RULER of the PLANET without taking the rest into consider makes the whole point moot.

Yes, I would see all of these Aspects as creating an overall "sense of sensitivity" for youself.

But next, we look at the Signs.

posted November 02, 2006 09:59 AM              

However, of course I think that the (tight orbed) aspects between planets in synastry like His Mars conjunct my Venus are very important.
But my idea was:
Anyone born in the same month would have his Mars conjunct my Venus. Especially with outer planets that becomes very clear. If someone`s Pluto trines my Moon, anyone born within some months will have Pluto trine my Moon.
And I thought, that the most individual thing in astrology is the housesystem, because it changes so fast.
For example:
Person A has his Mars conjunct my Venus; so has person B.
But if Person A has an Aries-ascendant and Person B has a cancer-ascendant, the Mars becomes the ruler of different houses.
Person A has Mars as ruler of 1st house and person B has Mars as ruler of 10th house (probably).
So, in the first case there`s a conjunction between his ascendant-ruler and my Venus; while in the the second case there`s a conjunction between the Midheaven-ruler and my Venus; so the same Mars-Venus-conjunction would get a slightly different meaning. In the first case there would be a very strong emphasis on the physical attraction, because Mars is also the ruler of ascendant in that case; in the second case there still would be physical attraction (because of the Mars-Venus-conjunction, that is still a strong aspect), but that conjunction would be somehow connected to the public face of person A or the profession or society in general.

Duh, was this too complicated now? I guess my brain is working in very twisted ways at the moment. Sorry, if that was too confusing.

posted November 12, 2006 04:33 PM              

First, if I'm not mistaken, the House is what Rules.

So it is better to say that the 10th House Rules Saturn > Saturn Rules Capricorn. Or, the 5th House Rules the Sun > Sun Rules Leo. Like that ...

Just keep that in mind when you go over this again.

I find that the Planets represent psychological aspects of personalities, and that the Signs color the Planets with "personalities" or a more focused intent.

The Signs don't make the contact, the Planets make the contact. So if you have someone with Venus in Sag, and another person with Jupiter in Sag, how the Planets themselves are interacting must be taken into account first.

posted November 13, 2006 10:50 AM              

For example: Mercury - Gemini- 3rd house are very similiar to each other, all three represent communication. Of course there are also differences, like the 3rd house can also represent sisters and brothers, whereas Gemini doesn`t.
And I think that the planets make the contacts and connections, because they are the only moving objects, whereas the houses and signs are firm.
The houses and signs are like a stencil and the planets are moving across this stencil.
But as I said in another post, everyone has their own opinion, and I don`t want to argue.

posted November 13, 2006 11:00 AM            

That's how the Vedic Astrologers look at charts...they pay big attention to house rulers,their sign/house placements and their aspects...even aspects between house rulers. They play a big part in their yogas which are planetary configurations which indicate specific types of abililities,events(you know how fatalistic Vedic Astrology gets)

My Astroinsight Report program by Adze has interpretations of house rulerships in house.

I read that it is the planet that rules the house. For instance if Scorpio is on my 3rd house cusp,then Pluto rules my 3rd house.

I have a mutual house reception myself. I have 3rd house ruler(Pluto)in 1st and 1st house ruler(Mercury) in 3rd,and so my communications and my self are strongly connected. People often have impressions of me by how I communicate whether they are right or wrong.

My 4th house ruler(Jupiter)conjunct IC(4th house cusp)would be a strong 4th house theme as well as could give me affinity with people with Moon in Cancer,Moon in 4th,Moon-IC aspect

My Moon trine 12th house ruler(Sun) could add to the theme of my Moon in Pisces square Neptune.

my 12th house ruler(Sun)in 2nd near the 3rd house cusp could add to the theme of my Mercury parallel Neptune in 3rd. The author counts planets 3 degrees from the cusp of the next house as being in the next house.

my 8th house ruler(Mars)conjunct Moon could add to the theme of my Moon quincunx Pluto. my 8th house ruler(Mars)square Mercury-Venus conjunction in 3rd could add to the theme of my Mercury conjunct Venus in Scorpio in 3rd.

My Sun trine 11th house ruler(Moon)could give me affinity with Sun in Aquarius,Sun in 11th,and Sun-Uranus aspect

My Mercury conjunct 9th house ruler(Venus)in 3rd house would add to the theme of Jupiter in Sagittarius in 3rd. My Mercury conjunct 2nd house ruler(Venus)in 3rd would be very similar to Mercury conjunct Venus in 3rd.

My 7th house ruler(Neptune)in 3rd house would add to the theme of my Venus in 3rd.

and so on

You get the picture, DD. :-)

I have a book on Rulerships,and I found it to be very insightful

THE HOUSE CONNECTION How To Read the Houses in an Astrological Chart by Karen Hamaker-Zondag.

posted November 14, 2006 08:51 AM              

I have that book, too, and thought it was very interesting.
Actually I now tend to look at planet AND house-ruler and planets in houses, before interpreting a chart.

for example, if I want to know something about the style of communication,
I look at Mercury in sign and house and aspect, but I also look in which sign and house the ruler of 3rd house falls and what aspects he makes and also which planets are in 3rd house.
Hamaker-zondag includes aspects of houserulers to planets and other houserulers, and it all gets really much stuff to digest.
What do you think is more important?
An aspect of the ruler of 3rd house to Moon or to the ruler of the 4th house, or are they equally important.

For example in my case I have Mercury in sagittarius in 1 in conjunction to Sun.
But if I look at my 3rd house, there are other connections visible.
Like the ruler of my 3rd house (Uranus) is in 11th house. I also have the intercepted ruler of 3 (Neptune) in 1 and the ruler of 1 (Jupiter) in 3.
If I look more closely at the Neptune as ruler of 3rd house, it has also a conjunction to Mars, which is the ruler of my IC.
So, what is more important? That the 3rd house ruler is conjunct Mars? Or that the 3rd house ruler is conjunct the 4th house ruler? Or is it equally important?

Also, I find house-ruler ships quite valuable, because they often repeat themes you can already see with the planets in sign, house and aspect.
Like my Mercury in 1 is similiar to the ruler of 3 in 1 conjunct Mars.
Also, I believe, that you can see this way, why some people are compatible, even with very different sign-placements.
Like I ususally wouldn`t communicate well with a Mercury in Capricorn. But if that person has also Jupiter in 3 or Mercury conjunct Mars (or both), then there would be some similiarities in our communication-styles, which make it easy to talk and communicate, even though the differences (Mercury in Capricorn vs. Mercury in Sagittarius) don`t vanish.

I hope this wasn`t too confusing. But everytime I try to elaborate something like this, I start feeling very clearly, that English isn`t my mother-tongue.

posted November 14, 2006 09:27 AM            

They can all be all of equal importance.

posted November 14, 2006 11:01 AM              

I did that as an example with my moon- to analyze my "emotional core".

This what I`ve come up with:

Moon in Aquarius
IC opposite 11th house ruler (well, it`s 4°, maybe a bit wide)

Moon in 2nd house
IC square Venus

IC in Aries
4th house ruler in 1st house
4th house ruler conjunct Ascendant
4th house ruler square 1st house ruler

IC square 5th house ruler (it`s probably not that important)

IC square 6th house ruler
4th house ruler square (old) 3rd house ruler
4th house ruler conjunct (new) 3rd house ruler

IC square ruler of 10 (probably not so important, since it`s only mentioned once)

IC opposite Pluto

IC opposite 12th house ruler
4th house ruler conjunct Neptune

4th house ruler in sagittarius
4th house ruler square Jupiter

Well, if summarize this, then following themes should "colour" my emotions:
Uranus
Taurus-Venus (I think sign and house of the moon is ALWAYS important)
Mars
Mercury
Neptune
Jupiter

Yes, I think I can relate to it.
My health and my personal wellbeing has always been connected DIRECTLY with my emotions (shown by the connection of the 4th and the 1st house). And it has always been difficult to emotionally separate myself (1st house) from my mother (4th house). If she was feeling well, I was feeling well; and if she was feeling down, I felt kind of responsible for it.
And it kind of explains why so many people in my life have their Moon or Sun in Aries, in aspect to Mars or some Pluto-influence. My soul apparently can relate to it, but you couldn`t really see it, if you just looked at the moon itself, leaving the IC out.