posted November 02, 2006 07:19 PM            

I have a book called YOUR STARWAY TO LOVE by Maritha Pottenger. I got it in 2000. It's Easy Compatiblity Analysis. This book helps you analyze relationships based on the Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus,Mars,and Ascendant which are the personal points in Astrology.

STARWAY TO LOVE COMPATIBILITY

Below you see a grid made up of a number of little boxes.

find the score which given to you Sun with his sun sign, put that number in the box immediately below the symbol for your Sun and immediately to the right of the Sun for him....do the same for Moon,Mercury,Venus,Mars,and Ascendant

Starway to Love table http://people.tribe.net/2e0a4c30-b134-49f8-ba74-0990f36b0a5f/photos/07 7d2c45-53bf-485b-a3d4-a5b8a212bbb7

Starway to Love Grid Worksheet http://people.tribe.net/2e0a4c30-b134-49f8-ba74-0990f36b0a5f/photos/de f77b93-e7ff-47bb-8184-3a1ba775c6c1

Notice the boxes with the hearts in them which run diagonally through the grid. These six scores(the Sun/Sun pairs,Moon/Moon pairs,Mercury/Mercury pairs,Venus/Venus pairs,Mars/Mars pairs,and Ascendant/Ascendant pairs)constitute your Love Line. Add them up. Note your score in the two boxes marked Love Line.

Add up each other six rows and each of the six columns in the grid. Each row contains the scores one of one his planets to your six. Each column contains the scores for one of your planets to his six. When you finished, you will have a total(the bottom of each column)for your Sun,your Moon,your Mercury,your Venus,your Mars,and your Ascendant. You will also have a total(the far right of each row)for each of your partner's six planets.
Add together the six totals (for you). Also add your partner's six totals together. You should come up with the same number. That number is your Shared Strengths.

Check to see if any of the six totals are 15 or higher. If so,make a note on the worksheet of which planet(and for which person)had a score of 15 or above. Those planets are listed as positive planets.

Notice that several of the boxes in your grid have a little asterisk,plus sign,star,or exclamation point in the upper left.

Boxes with asterisk show the Sun/Moon cross pairs----very important for male/female compatibility. Add those scores and write the result on worksheet under Togetherness.

Boxes with plus sign show the Sun/Venus cross pairs----very important for feeling drawn together. Add those two scores and write the result on the worksheet under Attraction and Affection.

Boxes with a star show show Moon/Venus cross pairs----very important for feeling at ease with one another and being able to share finances and living quarters. Family may be quite significant. Add those two scores and write the result on the worksheet under Close Comfort.

Boxes with exclamation point show the Mars/Venus cross pairs----very important for excitement and sexual drive. Add those two scores and write the result on the worksheet under Sexual Sizzle.

Look at the number you have written in for the degrees of your Sun sign. Compare it to the numbers for your partner's Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus,Mars,Ascendant. If your Sun is within 5 degrees(plus or minus)of any of your partner's numbers,put a check in the upper right of the box which is below your Sun and to the right of your partner's planet.
After you have compared the degree of your Sun to your partner's numbers,compare your Mercury degree,then your Venus degree,your Mars degree,etc. Count up the number of check marks you have made,and enter that number on the worksheet where it says: Bonus Bonds

INTERPRETATIONS FOR YOUR LOVE LINE SCORES

Very Challenging Love Line 6-10

There are some major differences in personality and style between the two of you. If you enjoy flowing in different directions, and can be tolerant of one another's different needs,your relationship can work well. If either of you tries to change the other----make your partner more like you---trouble is likely.
We are often attracted to people who have qualities far afield from our own. That 'spark' of attraction needs a little clash in order to catch fire! The people who attract us initially are not always the best ones for us,however.
If you enjoy a bit of challenge,if you are willing to work on your relationship and if you can appreciate and enjoy one another's differences (rather than trying to wipe them out),this can be a very rewarding relationship for you both. Each of you is likely to grow and change through exposure to other ideas,attitudes and ways of interacting.

Challenging Love Line 11-14

You know the old cliches-----"Birds of a feather flock together" but "Opposites attract." People building an enduring relationship need enough in common to have some strong ties. But they need enough differences to built excitement and feed the flames of passion. The trick is managing the challenges that do exist in a positive manner.
You and your partner have some significant differences. Your challenge is to appreciate each other's points of view,without having to have agreement on everything. Be open to learning from each other(willing to change your mind's). Learn where your clashes are----and what's worth fighting for-----and what's not.
If you can reach a bottom-line agreement on issues are bedrock for each of you, then the other differences will just add spice to your relationship. This is a relationship which could change you both-----if you are willing to take the opportunity to transform yourselves. Don't expect a smooth,easy flow all the time,but do build on the commonalities you share and learn to take the differences as opportunities to expand your thinking and possibilities. Those differences also help to keep each of you interested in and attracted to each other!

Compatible Love Line 15-18

Your relationship will have definite times of smooth,easy flow. You and your partner can tune into the same wavelength without much problem. This does not,of course,guarantee "happily ever after." You may egg each other on at times! Agreement (if you both want something unhealthy) may not be in the best interests of either of you or the relationship! But without some basic common ground, it's hard to build bridges to each other.
You have a lot going for each other. Your general personalities and styles of interacting are similar in many cases. Just as communication is easier if two people speak the same language, partnership is easier if two people have a compatible approach to relationships. The two of you have a good degree of compatibility.
Naturally, there will (and must) be some differences. You can cope most successfully in areas of stress or strain by using the strengths between you. If communication is a strong suit between you, talk about touchy areas. If your styles of expressing affection are compatible, be warm and supportive to one another before addressing difficult topics. Build on what is working well and the other areas will begin to flow more smoothly too! Reaching agreement is easier for you than for most couples.

Very Compatible Love Line 19-24

Your relationship has an amazingly high degree of compatibility and likeness. In fact, you two might seem like twin souls in some respects. Many times, you will be feeling similar feelings, finishing each other's sentences or otherwise tuning into one another.
Remember,however,the French phrase: Vive la difference! Successful relationships require both common ground and enough conflicts to strike some sparks between you. Too much harmony can seem boring at times; you need a bit of tension to enjoy its release! Also,people who have a high degree of compatibility will sometimes encourage each other to do things not in their best interests. Inner agreement may seem easier, but it also means you can agree to do something illegal,immoral or fattening. (Isn't everything?)
This is potentially a very positive,flowing,easy to harmonize association. Do be sure that when both say "go" it is something healthy for you both to pursue! Most of the time, you should find it easy to cooperate and compromise. Empathy between you is likely to be high. It is easy for each of you to tap into good feelings about the other.

The first 2 steps are what matter most in analyzing compatibility,

OPTIONAL FACTORS

a positive Sun shows a person who tends to shine,to be noticed,to be important in the relationship. The person with a positive Sun is usually vitalized and energized by the relationship. The positive Sun person can motivate others. Compliments and positive feedback work very well for that person.

Someone with a positive Moon finds it natural to build a home, to share feelings,to develop closeness. Such a person is probably supportive and feels nurtured by the relationship. Tenderness,caretaking,and compassion work very well for the positive Moon person.

The person with positive Venus may find it easy to express affection,to be comfortable in the relationship. This person tends to be attractive to others. A positive Venus person can bring charm,grace,pleasure and comfort into the relationship.

The person with a positive Mercury finds communication rather smooth. A mentally stimulating or interesting relationship is likely. The person with a positive Mercury can teach as well as learn,and enjoys both with a partner.

A positive Mars shows excitement,enthusiasm and/or sexual desire within the relationship. The person with a positive Mars can energize others,stirring them up,feeding their excitement. Sexual charisma may be present.

A positive Ascendant indicates that the relationship feeds this person's individuality and encourages self-expression and self-development. Doing one's own thing constructively tends to make the relationship stronger and more durable.

If your Togetherness score is 6 or greater,you stimulate his sense of manhood,and he stimulates your sense of womanhood. Your desire to maintain a relationship is increased. You may even feel like opposite halves of the same whole. You encourage one another to flourish.

If your Sexual Sizzle score is 6 or greater,your sexual excitement and interest can contribute to the growth of your relationship. You may add to each other's energy,enthusiasm,and eagerness.
If your Attraction and Affection score is 6 or greater, you two feel very drawn together and may find it easy to be affectionate with one another. A magnetic pull could exist between you.
If your Close Comfort score is 6 or greater, you two naturally want to combine forces and share with one another. Building a nest together may appeal. Each of you wants to create a setting with strong mutual support

If your Bonus Bonds score is 8 or greater, there is a strong pull between the two of you. You tend to be drawn together(for good or ill). Feelings are likely to be more intense,but could be love or hate. Extremes are possible. This indicates extra cohesiveness, more of a tendency to bond with one another. People with high Bonus Bonds are more likely to be in each other's lives.

Look at your Shared Strengths score. If it is higher than 88, you have some additional compatibility to lean on. Your general orientation toward one another has some real common ground. Even if your Love Line score is relatively low, a high Shared Strengths means you have the potential of building a lasting,important,positive relationship. You want to pull together, to stay together. You find it rather easy to support one another. You seek compromises and increase the level of agreement between you.

THE BOTTOM LINE

If you and your partner have a Compatible Love Line score, you are off to a good start. Do not assume, however, that all will be roses. (If you are Very Compatible,it is possible you might feel too much similarity----not enough spark between you.) Read the keywords for each of your placements,and each of your partner's placements. Read the paragraphs for your combined placements. Think about how to make the most of what you have in common. Notice where differences exist,and be accepting and tolerant of one another. Read the analysis for your Love Line score.
Also look to all the Optional Factors for clues to places you can build and expand on a base which is likely to be positive. The more you appreciate one another's good points,and strive to carry them further,the better you'll do together.
If you and your partner have a Challenging or Very Challenging Love Line score, recognize that there will be significant differences between you. If you find the thought of major differences with a partner threatening, you might want to consider looking for another person----someone with whom you already have fair degree of compatibility. (If you are currently in a long-term marriage, the odds are you are already capitalizing on many of each other's strengths and emphasizing the best between you.)
If you find the thought of differences stimulating and exciting, you can build a very good relationship with this partner. You may have a good division of labor, each of you doing opposite qualities within the relationship. You may have a good division of labor, each of you doing opposite qualities within the relationship. Appreciate each other's unique contributions. Use the Optional Factors to pinpoint areas you can easily reinforce in one another which you love,respect,and admire. Build on the charisma,nurturing,communication,affection,sexual excitement,and self development within your relationship. Accentuate the positive. Compliment,support and reaffirm one another.
We suggest that you read through the examples that follow. They illustrate how couples can compensate for a low Love Line scores and also demonstrate that a high score is not a guarantee of "happily ever after." Each couple still has the power (and responsibility) to overcome their challenges and make the most of their strengths and positive connections.

Of course, I did my compatibility analysis of my girlfriend and me.

Our Love Line is 16...compatible love line

Favorable optional factors:

Togetherness Score is 6
Close Comfort Score is 7
Bonus Bonds Score is 11
I have a Positive Moon
I have a Positive Mars
She has a Positive Moon
She has a Positive Venus
She has a Positive Ascendant

We both have a positive Moon,and that indicates we find it natural to build a home,to share feelings,to develop closeness with each other. We are supportive of each other and we both feel nurtured by the relationship. Tenderness,caretalking and compassion work very well for both of us.

This is our worksheet
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posted November 02, 2006 07:29 PM            

I am not sure

posted November 02, 2006 08:48 PM            

yeah

posted November 03, 2006 11:50 AM              

that was a very interesting worksheet. Actually it was similiar to the one I used to use.
It`s definitely very important to compare the signs of the personal planets, but I don`t think the results are "bulletproof". In many cases they may give hints towards compatibility, but not in all cases.
For example:
One friend of mine had been together with her boyfriend for 7 years, which is a long time I admit. Their loveline is 18, which indicates a great compatibility, maybe even too much similiarity.
The most outstanding factor was their Venus-Mars-comparision. Both had Venus and Mars in libra, which adds to a total of 8 points, indicating a lot of sexual chemistry and attraction.
But that was exactly the weak spot of their relationship!
My friend said that she never had been in love with her boyfriend, at least not the passionate kind. And he hasn`t felt really phyiscally attracted to her; especially not after the first beginning. They got along, but they didn`t feel drawn to each other physically (well, they were very much emotionally drawn to each other).
Furthermore, even though their Venus and Mars-positions were in the same sign, they were quite different in expressing their love. She wanted total commitment, someone she could trust and rely on, someone to share deep feelings with; and he basically wanted to stay independent, didn`t tell her where he went or when he would come back; he wasn`t really affective towards her (even though he cared for her in a pragmatic way), and in the end he cheated on her.
That wasn`t only because of their differences in their sexual- life, I know, but she once told me that she never felt they were lovers, more some kind of friends or family-members.
That doesn`t fit the description of this compatibility - sheet; with a sum of 8 points there should have been much sexual attraction between those two. But there wasn`t.
I think the reason for that might have been, that his Venus and Mars was conjunct Uranus and square Saturn, while her Venus and Mars was conjunct Pluto and opposite Moon.
so, even though the Venus-signs were compatible, the aspects to each Venus showed some incompatibility.
Also, neither his Venus or Mars (which were also ruler of his 1st, 7th and 8th house) had any aspects to her planets, not even one.
Her Venus and Mars were at least sextile his Moon and Neptune in Sagittarius.
so, I think, even though the comparision of planets in signs is the first very important step, it`s not enough to just do that. I would always include the aspects and house-positions of the planets.
for example, I know someone with Mercury in Capricorn; since my Mercury is in sagittarius we are said to have very different communication-styles. But actually we talk a lot and communicate very well. I think that is because his Mercury is in 11th house, and my Mercury is sextile uranus. Also, we both have Jupiter in 3rd house. I definitely would include that.

But like always that`s just my opinion.

DD

posted November 03, 2006 12:21 PM            

I agree with everything that you said.

Any system can have its flaws. I guess it depends on how one looks at it. Maritha Pottenger gave examples of how couples can persevere with bad scores but also couples who do poorly with good scores. It's very important to take one's natal into account. I do wonder that maybe the positive planets are a factor too.

as for the sexual attraction...well my girlfriend and I have low sexual sizzle scores.
In our synastry:
Her Sun,Mercury,and Mars are in my 8th
My Sun,Mercury,and Venus are in her 8th.
There is very strong sexual sexual attraction between us too...it's very intense.

We do have high bonus bonds too though...those are said to indicate intensity.

The bonus bonds are actually the aspects within orb but a semisextile and quincunx over 3 degrees is really a bit wide.

as you know, a quincunx with a wide orb is a triseptile and biquintile......my girlfriend's aries sun is triseptile my scorpio sun with 23 minutes of arc,and her aries mercury is biquintile my scorpio Mercury with 1'07 orb.....so even though our planets are in incompatible signs,they are in esoteric aspect connections. We really have a strong spiritual connection including that we can easily relate to each other and we communicate quite well with each other.

I definitely believe that you can't do synastry without the use of the planets beyond Mars,aspects,and houses.

I am with you on that.

Maritha Pottenger was just giving out a simple synastry technique.
I am not sure about oppositions being given 4 points....I wouldn't think mars opposing any of my planets is a good thing. However oppositions to ascendant are pretty good except for Mars imho.

I also feel that Midheaven should always be looked at in synastry. It's a very important point...to cosmobiologists and uranian astrologers, it's the soul,the "I"

posted November 03, 2006 01:51 PM            

So far:

posted November 03, 2006 03:25 PM              

everything made sense

thank you for your kindness on everything this week.

posted November 03, 2006 04:58 PM              

I hope you'll be proud of me Color coordinated and everything...lol... as you can see I had some free time on my hands. Did I do everything right?

I have never noticed before that we have Moon in different signs but exact same degree

posted November 03, 2006 04:58 PM              

I printed it out... played with it for a minute... got overwhelmed and gave up.

I guess it didn't help that I forgot to wear my contacts today... it started shifting on me.

posted November 05, 2006 06:29 AM              

and I agree with what you said.

I think that worksheet is a good point to start at, it gives valuable hints towards compatibility (and compatibility isn`t necessarily the same as attraction; that magical sizzle needs some differences, too, at least in my opinion), but as I said it just doesn`t explain everything.

Speaking of sexual sizzle scores: Well, I looked at your working sheet and was surprised to find such a low score in your case. But the 8th house magic is really strong, maybe it`s even the strongest sign of lasting sexual attraction. Personally I also look at aspects of the 8th house -ruler, especially if it`s aspecting personal planets and points and the rulers of Ascendant and Descendant.

Concerning the bonus-bonds; I agree with you again. I think an orb of 5° for sexmisextile and quinkunx is too wide. 3° is my favourite orb, too, even though I take those aspects serious (not so sure about the semisextile though), if they have an orb under 1,5°.
I have a Venus-Pluto-quinkunx with an arc of 39 minutes with someone, and I think I definitely feel that Venus-Pluto-vibration.

Concerning outer planets:
Well, I think that that worksheet may help you seeing how you get along personally. But I would never think of doing a synastry without looking at close aspects of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto to personal planets and points. They can tell you so much!

Also, I wouldn`t dismiss Midheaven and Immun Coeli; I becomre more and more attached to this axis, as it is so closely connected to the deepest core of one`s personality.
It`s comparable to the symbolism of the moon, and can tell much about the emotional connection between two people. People who have strong connections to my moon and / or Immun Coeli just "get under my skin".

DD

posted September 03, 2007 07:26 AM              

It`s fun to do this simple comparision (astrowin has it in their program, too).

But I have sometimes found it doesn`t really picture the whole truth ALWAYS.
For example I share a result of 7 points in the "sexual sizzle" area with someone, but it`s really not that sizzling at all. Not saying there is nothing, but certainly not the allconsuming attraction.
However, if I also look at the houserulers (1st house and 7th house for Mars and Venus), the picture is closer to the truth (sexual sizzle: 3 points).

So, I would definitely have a look at the planetary pairs AND their house-ruler counterparts.

Attraction and Affection: Sun and Venus, ruler of 5th and 7th house

Togetherness: Sun and Moon, 5th house and 4th house

Close comfort: Moon and Venus, 4th house and 7th house

sexual sizzle: Venus and Mars, 7th and 1st house

I`d consider to add some pairs like

sexual passion bordering obsession: Venus and Mars, 2nd and 8th house

energy and enthusiasm: Sun and Mars, 5th and 1st house

posted September 03, 2007 08:52 AM              

It`s basically a comparision of the personal planets with each other.