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comica23
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posted November 08, 2006 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ^_^ I've been wondering lately.. What are the good sides and the bad sides when a Water Moon and a Fire Moon relate with each other?

Fire Moons are active, passionate and direct.. Water Moons are more passive, loving and sensible.. The positive sides might be that the Fire can warm up the Water, and the Water can smooth Fire a bit with its sensibility.. But sometimes, Fire is just too active for the Water, and Water might just as well be too passive in the eyes of the Fire.. and so, the two elements might find it hard to understand each other's emotional needs.. >_<; But Fire needs constant activity/demonstrations to be ensured of love, while Water needs security/understanding/nurturing to be ensured..

But also, the Fire can be protective and trying to bring some warmth to the Water, while the Water nurtures and softens the Fire..

Personaly, I'm an Aries Moon and my bf is a Pisces Moon.. Yet, my Moon is in the 8th house, and his Moon is in the 1st house.. but sometimes, I find myself a bit too agressive for him.. T_T even too passionate at times.. But still, I can bring some light to him, while he brings some gentleness and sensibility to me.. ^_^;

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pidaua
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posted November 08, 2006 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL... I am a Sag Sun / Aries moon married to a Leo Sun / Pisces Moon.

I love his Moon position (his is in the 6th house on the DC line and mine is in the 7th house).

I am more fiery in some ways than he is. He can take in a situation, analyze it and then move on. I process information quickly and react to find a solution.

I energize him, he teaches me how to day dream.

I love his Pisces moon- it is endearing, magical and when I look into his blue / green eyes and can almost see the waves of the ocean.

We also have to look at supportive planets. He have an well distributed chart and doesn't lack in any element. He has strong fire to help out that Pisces moon. I think that moon position may be one of the hardest to deal with in a chart if a person does not have stronger planets to keep that Moon from pulling one into a quagmire of fantasy and delusion.

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Missa
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posted November 08, 2006 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Missa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating, I have also moon in Aries in 8th house. I find water moons a bit difficult, Cancer moons at least (the square aspect...). On the other hand, I get along nicely with a Scorpio moon and a Pisces moon, or the ones with those placements that I know. It might help that my moon is in 8th (Scorpio) and the person who has moon in Pisces has it conjunct mine (she has it in the end of Pisces, I have it in the beginning of Aries) even though it's in a different sign. In general, fire and water aren't considered to be the best possible pair, but if there are other factors that support the relationship I don't see it as impossible.

The most irritating side of water moons is that they're too passive, and do not usually talk things through when angry about something. I want to solve everything right away...

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miss_muffet
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posted November 08, 2006 04:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Pidua,

Just curious...
with your Sun in Sag and his moon in Pisces, isn't that a bad thing? Your straight arrow of truth piercing his sensitive & tender moon...

Sorry... this is not a criticism but just trying to learn. Thanks.

Miss Muffet

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comica23
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posted November 08, 2006 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.. ^_^ Hmm I guess having my Moon in the 8th house makes me too sensitive to any small signal sometimes (and also, I'm very insecure..), yet having it in Aries makes me want to deal the slighest insecurity or small signal right away.. I can't really hide my feelings, and want to make sure that everything is alright.. Sometimes, even if things seems fine, I still feel insecure.. >.<;

Passiveness makes me insecure as I always need to ensure and be ensured of love.. but strangely, my bf also makes me feel very secure and loved and nurtured at times.. ^_^; when I look into his eyes, I can feel his sensible side that I find so amazing and comforting.. he has some power to smooth me lol..

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posted November 08, 2006 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Miss Muffet,

I wouldn't say it is a bad thing at all. There are times when my Sun does not understand his moods- then again my Ex-husband was a Virgo with a Gemini moon (opposing my Sun) and my ex-fiance was a Taurus with a Virgo moon (squaring my Sun).

Since I am older and have been through a marriage and TERRIBLE engagement, I have learned to read more into the person I am with- to take care to understand the subtle cues. Yes, I can hurt his feelings with my brashness - but he also has his Sun / Mercury in Leo while his Neptune is in Sagittarius. He has Mars in Taurus and is very patient, but won't tolerate being pushed around- he is also a Soldier, so he has the ability to deal with a strong woman that comes equipt with a quiver of arrows LOL...

My Mars conjuncts his Moon while his Sun / Mercury trine my Sun, Moon and Venus. My Saturn also falls into his 8th house- which indicates a strong Karmic tie. To add to our amazing synastry- his Venus in Virgo conjuncts my Pluto and Ascendant.

Sure we have a few issues from time to time, but again, we've both been married before and time does season a person. We are both in our 30's and now we realize pursuit of the "self" only aids in pushing away a love one.

I hope that helps.

~Pidaua

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posted November 08, 2006 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dunno, my Sag moon and my mom's Pisces moon are always at war with each other. We have a relationship where we both get along half the time (both Tauruses- we're best together when shopping or eating), and on the emotional level we are just SO far apart and opposite from each other. That's never ending stress right there. I want to be free and she's needy.

Honestly, I sometimes think the Sag in me just doesn't fit.

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pidaua
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posted November 08, 2006 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I would think you are in a tough position. Sagittarius wants to have fun, doesn't want to get into too much involvement when it comes to emotional issues and enjoys bantering. The Pisces moon enjoys quiet times, day dreaming, all things emotional and entanglements. Taurus doesn't totally understand the Sag moon and it make seem a bit conflicting to encounter such a person - BUT, I think it adds a sparkle to the Bull personality.

I think it is easier when someone has a Sun sign that can carry that moon - especially a water moon.

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posted November 08, 2006 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting topic!
Sag sun here, with a leo moon. I have venus and mars in libra

I'm in a relationship with a scorpio sun and moon. He has venus in Sag and mars in cap.

And surpisingly its okay!! He understands me somehow. But then ive been told I have a lot piscean influences (the houses) so maybe thats it.

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posted November 08, 2006 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Slightly off topic but I notice the lunar difficulties or differences that occur sometimes. This only occured to me the other day in my relationship.

I'm Aqu with Lib moon and my partner is Gem with Sco moon, luckily just far enough to miss a square to my sun. He never talks about his emotions but I have to always verbalise everything that I feel, I find it necessary and cathartic. Sometimes I feel like I don't have the ability to deal with his depth and it sometimes upsets me when he doesn't talk about how he feels and then I upset him when I ask him if there is something wrong because he's not talking

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posted November 08, 2006 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
23,

That is where you must learn to "feel" him rather than having to "hear" him. My Pisces moon husband is a feeler - he does communicate quite nicely, but he does not always let me know what is going on inside. Maybe our tight trining Suns give us an empathy to understand the other, but I also think that using what can't be seen, heard or touched goes alot further when dealing with a water moon.

My brother is a Scorp moon (Sag Sun) and doesn't verbalize much and never did as a kid. I could "feel" when he was upset and would usually try to make him laugh or just give him a hug. I'd ask him if he wanted to go play a game or somethig (I'm a sag too). IF and when he was ready to talk he would- if not, then him just knowing I was there was enough.

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lals
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posted November 08, 2006 07:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pidaua is so right 23. I personally experience it. I have a scoprio moon and I always wish the other person with me can FEEL my emotions. It is so difficult for us to articulate our feelings up till we are ready to do. It is ALWAYS IMPOSSIBLE to verbalise our feelings. I hear people say how difficult if we don't verbalize but it is a weakness which others see as rudeness.

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comica23
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posted November 08, 2006 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw Missa, just curiousity, how do you describe yourself emotionally? I'm curious of how do other people that has Aries Moon 8th house feel emotionally.. ^_^

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