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Vintry
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posted November 14, 2006 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everybody!

This is my first post and I would like to ask you something about synastry. What does it mean if there is not enough aspects between two people's charts. I mean, there are some! right, but just NOT enough. I like this guy so much, almost love him, but we never talked properly and I am wondering if we were to get together (finally), what would it be like? I have never met anyone like him before, there's just something about him and I think he feels the same way... What do you think, please help me with this question if you can. Any feedback on this will be greatly appreciated!

Here's a link to the table of our synastry aspects: http://www.astro.com/tmpd/achart_bpofile0ZkoKg-u1107644417.74980.26772.d61gr.pdf

Thank you

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darkdreamer
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posted November 14, 2006 04:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is "enough" aspects?

I mean, if I see it right you have:
Sun trine Venus
Sun sextile Uranus
Moon square Mercury
Moon sextile Venus
Moon sextile Chiron
Mercury quinkunx Sun
Mercury conjunct Neptune
Venus quinkunx Moon
Mars square Mercury
Mars sextile Venus
Mars sextile Chiron
Jupiter opposite Moon
Jupiter opposite Mars
SAturn trine Moon
Saturn trine Mars
Uranus quinkunx Sun
Neptune quinkunx Mercury
Neptune trine Venus
Neptune trine Chiron
Pluto quinkunx Mercury
Pluto opposite Venus
Chiron conjunct Mercury
Chiron quinkunx Uranus
AC square Moon
MC conjunct Moon
MC conjunct Mars
MC conjunct Saturn
MC square Chiron

28 aspects is not bad, is it?
There are some nice aspects like his Venus in harmonious aspect to your Sun and Moon, indicating mutual sympathy and affection.
you also have Mars sextile Venus, indicating that there is some attraction between you two.
Sure, it`s not the obsessive, all consuming, overly passionate synastry (even though watch out for that Pluto opposite Venus, which can be very hot, even though also challenging); but basically you have some harmonious connections.

But in regard to your question: I think, if there are only little aspects between two horoscopes, the connection between two people is maybe very loose or weak. The aspects provide the glue that binds people together, and the more aspects, the stronger is the connection (which can also mean that two persons just can`t stand each other and constantly fight and basically are each other`s enemies, if the aspects are too challenging).)

But apart from that I would say, put the horoscopes aside and trust your heart. You can`t love a chart, only a person.

DD

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and
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posted November 14, 2006 11:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all the picture is expired.
But honestly? I wouldnt bother, from my experience without strong synastry aspects even a FEW, it doesnt work.

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Arnicka
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posted November 14, 2006 11:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you 2 do get talking to each other definitely watch out for that Mars square Mercury - BIG arguments/misunderstandings; its further exasperated by a Moon square Mercury: even more misunderstandings with the Moon person feeling as if Mercury doesnt take their feelings into account in conversation.

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darkdreamer
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posted November 15, 2006 01:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and,

I agree. You need a few strong synastry aspects. Do you think it have to be conjunctions and oppositions?
I suspect the conjunctions really provide the potential to strongly connect to another person.
I`ve experienced that with someone, not too long ago. I was attracted to him, liked him, and was almost in love with him. We had some nice aspects like Sun trine Moon, Mercury trine Moon, Venus sextile Sun and Mars trine Moon, but no conjunctions with personal planets, not a single one. And it somehow didn`t work despite trying for a while.

Arnicka,
I agree on the Mercury-aspects. Also watch out for the Mercury-Neptune-conjunction, it can lead to heavenly telepathic contact or to confusion and misunderstanding, maybe even both.
So I agree, that communication can be a problem; it doesn`t run smoothly, but on the other hand some challenges are necessary, so you don`t fall asleep in a relationship. That`s at least my opinion. I know I need some challenging aspects, only harmony wouldn`t be enough for me. Too dull and boring. Of course I know other people need harmony and ease much more, and can`t stand such "teasing" aspects as Mercury square Mars. I never had a problem with this aspect, but then again I have Mercury in the 1st house, so this planetary energy is familiar to me.
But different people react differently.

DD

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Arnicka
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posted November 15, 2006 03:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats a good point, darkdreamer: different people react differently to the aspects made in synastry. I harped negatively on the Merc contacts because for me I have Merc 7th house in Aqua -- so i cant stress enough how important communication is for me and how disastrously[sp] those aspects have played out for me in the past.

So looking at that, Vintry -- keep in mind that if you have a 7th house planet, that planets energy needs to be very highly enhanced in your synastry with another for the relationship to fit and make sense for you. If no planets there then pay attention to the ruler of your 7th and then look at synastry to see if that type of relationship would work with your personal relating energies. For example if you have scorp 7th then ruler is Pluto. Positive synastry aspects from your pluto to anothers chart or from their pluto to your chart would very positively enhance your personal dynamic. Hope I didnt make that sound too vague.

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Glaucus
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posted November 15, 2006 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what are the orbs for those aspects? I don't put a lot of emphasis on aspects more than 5 degree orb involving Sun,Moon,and Ascendant and 4 degrees for other aspects....except for 2 degree orb for Uranus,Neptune and 1 degree orb for Pluto. I make exceptions if planet is stationary.

I focus on the Ptolemaic aspects(conjunction,opposition,trine,sextile)and I don't focus on minor planets like Chiron. I use minor aspects and minor planets for finetuning or refining. I can get a lot of information with only the major,traditional stuff. I feel that the planetary geometry is very important too. So if I see t-square or grand cross,then I know that there are going to be serious challenges in the relationship but with perseverance and a lot of effort,they can build a strong relationship. If I see stuff like grand trine,kite, then I can see that they have some pretty good potential to have an easy,harmonious relationship but they need to take care not to take things for granted..laziness can cause a lot of problems.

I feel at least 2 of the big 3(Sun,Moon,Ascendant) should be compatible...so there can be some good basic compatibility.

Also...I feel that aspects between the Sun,Moon,Ascendant are important....conjunction,trine,sextile...even opposition can be okay.

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darkdreamer
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posted November 15, 2006 12:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arnicka,

I agree. The 7th house says a lot about what you need in relationships. I for my part need much communication just as you described it (Gemini on the cusp; no planets in 7th house).
So, I think I NEED some aspects with Mercury, but in my case they don`t have to be all harmonious aspects. All those trines and sextiles to my Mercury are nice, but not enough for me. I want to learn and expand my horizon in relationships, and I cannot do this, if the other one constantly agrees to what I say. But on the other hand there`s only so much challenges that I can take, without feeling misunderstood. It`s all about balance, I think. I`d prefer mostly harmonious aspects with a nice little Mercury-Mars-suare or Mercury-Pluto-conjunction here and there. But most aspects should be harmonious, I agree.


Glaucus,

well, actually I don`t know what I`ve been writing there. Sorry. It has been late and I was tired. I`ve never concentrated on Chiron before. Strange.
However, I also use an orb of 4-5°, but I use an orb of 2-3° for Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.
Also, I start using the quinkunx quite a bit. It`s a minor aspect I know, but I find it interesting. Especially if it`s under 1° orb.
But of course the major aspects are more significant.
Concerning Sun, Moon, Ascendant; yes, there should be some compatibility. But I don`t limit it to a comparision of Sun-Sun, Moon-Moon; Ascendant - Ascendant.
For example a conjunction of Moon and Ascendant or Sun and Moon or Sun and Ascendant can smooth out some differences. Also, I include the aspects of the planets in the natal horoscope and see, if there are similiar aspects like Moon in aquarius - Moon conjunct Uranus for example.

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Vintry
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posted November 15, 2006 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all guys!

I guess I'll just have to find out for myself and I hope that this time astrology/synastry won't work because although the composite is nice, the synastric chart comparison is faar from ideal (( and that sort of scares me off. I so much want to get to know this person but already afraid it won't work..

Anyways, action is reaction )) will see what happens

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Glaucus
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posted November 15, 2006 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Vintry,

That's the thing, Astrology/Synastry does work. What you do with it, is what matters. Like I said before,if you put in a great effort,you can make the relationship work.

Free will is the ultimate factor.

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posted December 08, 2006 04:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Vintry

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