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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted November 16, 2006 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey 'Zala,

Do you know a good website
for interpretting parallel aspects?

thanks,
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Azalaksh
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posted November 16, 2006 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Steve ~

Not a clue!! I bet Glaucus has something on it tho.....
All I know of parallel is some Magi reports I got from a friend.....
Actually, there's a little bit here: http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/declinationsparallels.html http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/parallel.html

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posted November 16, 2006 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I thought for sure you would have a good one,
you always post links to the best sites.
Thanks, though.

Glaucus, where are you?!!??!?!?!
Always quick to lend a hand,
and full of juicy tidbits,
this is your hour, man!!!
HELP!!!!

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posted November 16, 2006 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehehehe

well..there are no interpretations for parallel and contraparallel aspects.

parallel(points on same side of celestial equator and within 1 degree orb) is pretty much has an effect of a conjunction.
contraparallel(points on opposite sides of celestial equator and within 1 degree orb) pretty much has an effect of an opposition

some say that parallel and contraparallel are more subtle,but I don't think that is so cut and dry...the narrower the orb,the stronger the parallel,contraparallel could be.

You just have to look at conjunction interpretations to understand the parallel and opposition interpretations to understand the contraparallel

a matter of fact,if you do a declination longitude equivalent chart
parallel will appear as conjunction
contraparallel will appear as as opposition

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posted November 16, 2006 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome!
Good info.
Thank you.

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posted November 16, 2006 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, would a parallel aspect be interpreted in a sign?
If say, the two planets are in the same sign,
would you then interpret the "conjunction" as in that sign?
What if they are in different signs?
Would you look for a midpoint, perhaps?


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posted November 16, 2006 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooo, thanks for the links, 'Zala!

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posted November 17, 2006 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enjoy!


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...the need for emotional validation as a divine being (apart from the opinions of other people)—is symbolized by the parallels of declination. The parallels reveal a sense of specialness unto self; they go off on their own to find an individual answer to some question in life which the aspects address in a conventional, stereotyped, and therefore rather sterile fashion. The parallels exemplify an ideal of individualistic effort—blazing a new trail all alone. They symbolize those areas of life marked by a touch of personal distinctiveness.

In the parallels we have combinations of planetary energies operating in unconditional fashion, on a level of intuition and feeling rather than one of concepts and thinking. We know how to use these energies without ever having been taught. We use them to express what is in our hearts rather than what is in our minds.

Therefore, a parallel shows an inherently more satisfying use of planetary energies than an aspect does. We can thus say that the parallels are of a benefic nature, although they do tend to isolate us within ourselves (cut us off in this area of life from the rituals of reward and punishment which animate most of the people around us).

For present purposes we will consider two planets to be in parallel if the difference in their declinations does not exceed one degree. Two planets within the same degree of declination, but with one planet north and the other south of the equator, are considered to be in parallel (that is, no distinction will be made here between parallels and contra-parallels). Also, we will only consider two planets to be in parallel if they are not also involved in a major Zodiacal aspect with 6º orbs. This is done to make it easier to distinguish between the action of the aspects and the parallels. In real life, when both a parallel and Zodiacal aspect exist between the same pair of planets, you should consider this planetary combination to be of particular importance and interest in the native’s life,

Preponderance of Parallels: People who have many parallels in the horoscopes (six or more) are emotionally self-contained individuals who tend to seek isolation. Albeit superficially agreeable and pleasing, their natural instinct is to avoid other people or to push them away. They are often self-conscious in social situations because social poise doesn’t come naturally to them—they feel they have to fake it somehow. Thus they shy away from the social commitments and entanglements which people with no parallels eagerly seek out and enjoy.

These people often seem oddball or quixotic—real characters. They are hypersensitive to encroachment on their private space, and they take an oblique view of their fellow men —suspicious, cynical, superior On the other hand, they have a deep sense of personal integrity. Attuned to their own inner convictions rather than to canons of social acceptance, they are hard working, thorough, and conscientious.

Absence of Parallels: People who have no (or few) parallels in their horoscopes are sociable, outgoing, and demonstrative. They go into social relationships in a breezy, matter of fact way. They seek their own equilibrium by keeping on top of their social milieu in some sort of controlling role (e.g., the organized one, the charming one, the innocent one, the mischievous one). Whatever role they choose they employ to dominate their social environment—they can usually make everyone around them accept them more or less on their own terms and give tern whatever special attention they desire. On those occasions when this support system of other people fails them, they feel totally lost, betrayed, and bewildered.

Before delineating the meanings of the individual parallels, one point should be made clear: a person does not exhibit all of his aspects and parallels at the same time. Typically, a person will have his Venus-trine-Jupiter days, and he’ll have his Mars-square-Saturn days. What an aspect or parallel shows is a characteristic mood or mindset which at times comes over those people who share this aspect or parallel. It does not mean that they act this way all the time...



A Touch of Distinctiveness

by M. J. Makransky
Published in Considerations VII: 2, April 1992

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posted November 17, 2006 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun-Moon: The aspects try to reduce everything to simplicity, to be straightforward, upfront, and on the level. The harmonious aspects are more, and the inharmonious aspects are less, successful at getting other people and the world around them to cooperate with this ideal of laying all one’s cards on the table. They have very little capacity for guile, and rely instead upon a stubborn logic and contrariety to get their own way when complexities and subtleties become too complex and subtle. They have a genuine, innocent self-delight which however can be perverted into an irritating smugness.

The parallels are warier, more reserved, less inclined to barge into any situation with a handshake and a Howdy. They are just as direct and frank, but without the clatter and effusiveness of the aspects. They are more sensitive to nuances and less naive about their own motives, and they are therefore ultimately more convincing and sincere than the aspects.

Sun-Mercury: The aspects (that is, the conjunction) are extremely defensive and emotionally repressed. They never feel relaxed and secure, and they live in constant fear of being attacked or unmasked. Critical of others, they bristle at any criticism of themselves; and indeed they automatically reject any and all talk about feelings. They are proud, disciplined, and have themselves under very tight control.

The parallels are by no means humble, but they feel no need for apologies or excuses: they are ultimately quite content with who they are. They can see themselves dearly and objectively, and they withhold judgment from themselves; this in turn makes it easy for them to be non-judgmental with others. Where the conjunctions distance themselves from people in fear, the parallels distance themselves by granting other people their due space, and insist upon their own in return.

Sun-Venus: The aspects (the conjunction) tend to find life frustrating and unrewarding, no matter how hard they sacrifice and try to play by the rules. They take every setback as a personal rejection. They generally have little sense of self-worth, and are inhibited by feelings of shame and inadequacy. They can give, but don’t know how to accept in return.

The parallels have a great sense of manner, a smooth self-possession, and a sense of belonging no matter what company they find themselves in. They have democratic impulses because they know they are any man’s equal; they are not ashamed to take their rightful share of the good things in life. Where the conjunction’s moods are tied to the approval or disapproval they receive from others, the parallels are steadier and have an unshakeable sense of their own inner worth, no matter how the tides of fortune flow.

Sun-Mars: The aspects are alert and assertive. They stand up for themselves and make their voices heard. They have a peremptory manner and a sharp tongue. They are bold and saucy, but are also touchy and quite thorny to deal with.

The parallels have the same bristles as the aspects, and evince the same readiness to stand and stand alone; however, they lack the rebelliousness and contumacy of the aspects. They are every bit as resolute, but not as scrappy and pugnacious. They don’t choose combat as their first resort; but rather find that calm, unflinching determination works quite well by itself, with no need for added histrionics.

Sun-Jupiter: The aspects are lively and optimistic. They try to maintain an attitude of cheerfulness and goodwill no matter what circumstances are confronting them. Generally good-humored, they tend to be rather indolent or laissez faire. They maintain a detached and ironic view of themselves which buoys their spirit when times get tough.

The parallels are as optimistic and forward-looking as the aspects, but they are not as gushing, nor are they as smug and complacent. They are humbler, or at least lacking in that overweening superiority and swagger which so often characterize the aspects. They are more conscientious because they are more analytical and open to learning from their experience than the know-it-all aspects.

Sun-Saturn: The aspects are serious minded and grave, and are not to be toyed or trifled with. They can be rather scornful or deprecatory of other people, which is how they deal with the fear of being hemmed in by them. They have an overriding concern for the maintenance of their sense of dignity and independence, and for the proper amount of respect which they feel is their due. On the other hand, they are hard working, responsible, and punctilious in the discharge of their obligations.

The parallels are just as dependable and serious as the aspects, but they are more laid back and much less demanding. They are not so manipulative, nor as petty in scoring little power points for themselves. Rather, they work steadily at a relaxed and satisfying pace; and they know that anything they're supposed to have will come to them of its own accord.

Sun-Uranus: The aspects have a freewheeling, unpretentious, California kind of style. They’re broad-minded and tolerant of other people, and they have the attitude of live and let live. Loose and nimble, they carefully avoid being pinned down and emotionally committed—they try to preserve their freedom of action at all times. Thus, while they are friendly and outgoing, they can also be maddeningly vague, distant, and noncommittal.

The parallels are just as emotionally detached as the aspects, but they are more self-contained. They maintain their independence not through a sidestepping strategy of avoidance, but rather by being collected and in control of themselves, and hence difficult to move or influence. They are not as glib as the aspects, but they are more cautious, penetrating and analytical.

Sun-Neptune: The aspects march to the beat of a distant drum. They are part visionary, part spaced-out, with a taste for the abstract or mystical, and a well-developed set of spiritual and moral ideals. Although generally cheerful, they also have an air of vague worry—a restlessness of nervous, little backward glances. They are forward looking but indecisive, capricious, and inclined to view the world through rose-colored glasses. Their viewpoint is bold and original, but also distorted by its own fancies and imaginings.

The parallels are similarly idealistic and willing to operate on a basis of their own intuition; but they are not so blindly optimistic and naive on the one hand, nor as torn by self-doubt on the other. In contrast to the fluttery aspects, they are more intellectual or logically minded, and have a strong sense of inner stability and being connected.

Sun-Pluto: The aspects are self-absorbed and concentrated upon the path beneath their feet; hence they tend to take a shortsighted view of the world around them. They can be extraordinarily naive or idealistic, and they are given to making black and white judgments. They have the attitude "Damn the torpedoes—full speed ahead!" Albeit courageous and determined, they can also be adamant to the point of unreason. Their extreme self-will combined with complete self-assurance makes these natives very prickly to deal with.

The parallels exhibit the same flashes of crazy independence as the aspects, and they’re every bit as mulish; but they have a greater sense of proportion and detachment from their own value judgments. Thus the parallels feel less need to impose or impress their views on others: their extremism is more intellectual, less acted-out; it is tempered by a self-restraint absent in the wildly passionate aspects.

Moon-Mercury: The aspects are quick: quick to pick up on other people’s feelings and points of view, and quick to understand and catch on to nuances. They have logical minds and are fond of arguing. Their hallmark is earnestness—a firm belief in common sense and good faith. They depend on cooperation, clear communication, and making intellectual connections without the need for pretension, embellishment, or appearances. They have a nervous, fitful energy, and a blunt and abrupt manner.

The parallels have the same quick intellectual grasp as the aspects, but they are more reserved, and not as explanatory and self-justifying; not as dependent upon convincing other people or securing their agreement. They have a self-critical faculty not usually present in the aspects, and thus they are able to take a calmer, deeper, more philosophical view of life than the aspects. They are more detached in their dealings with people, less urgent.

Moon-Venus: The aspects are optimistic, outgoing, and gregarious, with an appreciation for social grace and niceties. They make a strong effort to please and be pleasing because they are nonplused by conflict, and so try to avoid it through obsequiousness or emotional withdrawal. Contrary to popular belief, not even those with the good aspects of Moon and Venus make happier marriages than anybody else; but there is less tendency to divorce here because the overriding concern for harmony in relationships leads these natives to endure more for the sake of peace.

The parallels feel the same need for order and harmony in life, but they are less fidgety, more easy-going than the aspects, and less dependent upon agreement with others for their own sense of inner peace. They have a better sense of their own emotional space, and they don’t permit other people to disturb their inner balance as much as the aspects do. They know the art of compromising with others without compromising their own true feelings.

Moon-Mars: The aspects are humorous and playful, with a childlike sense of mischief—though they do tend to come on pretty strong. At the same time, they embody a staunchness and courage which command the respect of other people. They are true to their principles and unswerving in their determination, though they also have a Prima Donna streak—they’re ornery, and given to pets.

The parallels have the same spunk and cockiness as the aspects, but they are more aloof and impersonal, and therefore less overbearing. They are more impassive than the aspects, who are always taking a stand or proving a point. The parallels feel little need to win (or bowl) other people over to bolster their own sense of prowess because their self-assurance is more of an inner glow than an outer flash.

Moon-Jupiter: The aspects are good natured and amiable, comfortable people to be with. They possess a wry humor and they take a benign interest in other people—detached and non-judgmental. They are determined to enjoy themselves come what may, and simply won’t permit themselves to be oppressed or weighted down by other people or circumstance.

The parallels are like the aspects in their positive and constructive attitude and their easy acceptance of other people, but they have a milder and more heartfelt manner than the cool aspects. They have the same emotional detachment, but not the above-it-all self-satisfaction. Where the aspects banter and jest, the parallels communicate a true concern.

Moon-Saturn: The aspects greet experience with a grim, ready-for-anything stance. They are cautious and reserved, and they are quite canny. They always stop or step back for a moment to calmly weigh the pros and cons; they are meticulous, logical, and argumentative. They are not so much inhibited as resolute, girded for action, and prepared in advance for any conceivable contingency.

The parallels are as serious minded as the aspects, and they have the same hesitation: when a decision is required they also retreat for a moment to ponder. However, here the reach is towards a deeper understanding rather than for immediate personal advantage. The parallels are conscientious rather than contentious. They seek to comprehend a situation or relationship rather than dominate it through elaborate preparations and defenses.

Moon-Uranus: The aspects are thoroughly self-disciplined, dedicated, and professional. They are unbothered and unruffled (though far from carefree), with little wasted motion or needless expenditure of energy. They are gregarious, but have a blunt manner; and they are restless and intense. They can be coldly analytical, verging on cynical, and can manifest a sneering, heavy-handed superiority and absolutism.

The parallels take the same pride in their competence and fitness as the aspects do, but they are lower keyed, less overbearing. They have the same cool-headed self-certainty, but they have a genuinely friendly regard for people and a sense of being at their service.

Moon-Neptune: The aspects are soft and vulnerable, and have a wistful, abstracted air about them, as if they were tuned into their own personal wavelength. They have an impish glint in their eyes, as if relishing their own secret joke. They gaze past the things of this world with a look of yearning for some idealized universe. At times you can speak directly to them, looking them right in the eye as they smile and nod back to you, and they won’t even hear a word you’re saying. But they are true salt-of-the-earth types in their naive optimism and harmlessness.

The parallels are as private as the aspects, and they have the same spritely and winsome manner, but they are nowhere near as woolly. In fact they can be quite shrewd and calculating in employing their pixie-like mischievousness to charm and wheedle other people. They’re never so far off in the stratosphere that they miss an opportunity down here on Earth.

Moon-Pluto: The aspects are sedulous and intent; they hum like little machines at work as they go busily about their tasks. They are most difficult to halt and deflect, or even to influence (much less convince). They are neither open nor amenable to suggestions: if an idea did not originate within themselves, then it holds little interest for them. But they are gritty, tenacious, and indomitable in carrying out their own designs.

The parallels are as wrapped up in themselves and their schemes as the aspects, and they act with the same finality; but they are more flexible and willing to modify their plans as the situation dictates. They are capable of executing a strategic retreat if need be, or of simply waiting patiently. They always keep their sense of humor and perspective.

A Touch of Distinctiveness1

by M. J. Makransky
Published in Considerations VII: 2, April 1992

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In the first part of this article we discussed parallels of declination. In contrast to Zodiacal aspects, which symbolize strategies people use to make themselves feel special in a social context (that is, valuable to their group), parallels reveal a sense of specialness that comes from within the self; a feeling of being unique in one’s own right; a touch of distinctiveness and importance in the divine scheme of things. Where the planetary energies operating on the level of the aspects tend to work out in terms of success or failure, triumph or defeat, wins or losses; these same energies operating through the parallels work out in terms of responsibility, understanding, freedom, and joy.

Previously we described the parallels involving the Sun and Moon; now we will delineate the rest of the planetary combinations. However, the parallels between Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto will be omitted due to a dearth or redundancy of data, as the case may he.

Mercury-Venus: The aspects (the conjunction and sextile) are easy-going and self-possessed. Albeit aloof, they feel right at home no matter where they are; they can relax and just be themselves in any company, with no need for apologies or self-deprecation. They possess a humorously cynical view of other people and their motives, and they have a gift for persiflage which enables them to communicate with people without unduly compromising or involving themselves emotionally.

The parallels show the same bantering irreverence as the aspects, and they are equally blithe and unaffected. However, they have a more sincere and inviting manner than the cool, impersonal aspects do. Their levity does not preclude sympathy, nor is their detachment standoffish. Their cheerfulness is heartfelt rather than casual.

Mercury-Mars: The aspects are forceful and direct; they possess the no-nonsense, take-charge air of born commanders. They are fair and just, fearless advocates of the moral right. They will bear no quibbling (read: difference of opinion); nor have they the time or energy to waste on such nonessentials as tact or propriety.

The parallels are as positive and cocksure as the aspects, and they are quite as indomitable. However, they have a far more ingratiating manner and an appreciation for the rights and sensibilities of other people. They are as blunt and outspoken, but are capable of listening to differing points of view and hammering out compromises. They grasp that the essence of leadership is persuasion rather than peremptoriness.

Mercury-Jupiter: The aspects take a positive, optimistic attitude towards life, and they approach other people in a spirit of hope and goodwill as they proffer their advice and opinions. They are logical and analytical, and they try to take an objective view of any situation. Although they endeavor to be convincing (and indeed they have themselves thoroughly convinced), they do have their unacknowledged blind spots which become apparent when they exhaust their stock of pat answers and cut-and-dried solutions.

The parallels are as sanguine and forward-looking as the aspects, and they take the same constructive interest in other people. But they are animated by a deeper intellectual curiosity than the aspects are; they are fresher and less pedantic. They feel a deeper need to understand people, to appreciate and savor them, than they do to impress them by being marvelous.

Mercury-Saturn: The aspects have an air of world-weariness, of long-suffering and patient forbearance. They are sober and logical thinkers, hard-working, and extremely thorough and meticulous in discharging their responsibilities. They can be overly serious-minded and pessimistic, and easily become bogged down in drudgery, as if resigned to accepting whatever new load Life might care to pile on top of their already overburdened shoulders.

The parallels have the same perseverance and sense of long endurance, but they are more hopeful and positive than the aspects. They also slog through life, but with the idea of looking forward to some bright future (rather than gazing sullenly down at the trodden earth below). Therefore, they ultimately take some joy and consolation in their heavy responsibilities rather than view them as an unavoidable drag.

Mercury-Uranus: The aspects are irrepressible and unpredictable. They are lone wolves—part visionary and part crank. Though they may present a front of tight self-control and ability to cope under stress, they are high-strung and temperamental individuals, given to occasional volcanic outbursts of emotion which startle and floor everyone around them. They are very alert, perceptive, and mentally clear; hence they can act with lightening speed and total self-assurance.

The parallels have the same analytical mentality and are just as aloof, but they are more laid-back than the intense and bull-headed aspects. They can be equally firm and unyielding in their absolutism, but without the swagger and need to register an impression on other people which characterizes the aspects. In their calm detachment they come closer to true objectivity and disinterestedness.

Mercury-Neptune: The aspects are dreamy and idealistic, and have a highly utopian outlook on life and human nature, wanting to believe the best of people and situations. They are unsophisticated and unselfconscious—they come on like playful puppies wagging their tails, with a surplus of enthusiasm and good intentions. Albeit rough and blustery on the surface, underneath they are soft-hearted and a bit soft-headed, which makes them easy to impose upon or deceive.

The parallels evince the same naive trust in people as the aspects, but they are nonetheless cautious and wary. They have a governor on their impulses (which the aspects totally lack) that lets them intellectually examine a situation before committing themselves to it. They temper the emotional vulnerability of the aspects with a modicum of common sense and self-appraisal.

Mercury-Pluto: The aspects are alert, wily, and secretive. They are ever on the qui vive for nuances, and they have a diplomat’s attunement to the subtle shades of meaning in the words and gestures of others. They clearly perceive hidden motives, and they are fond of making cynical remarks about the covert rationale underlying other people’s behavior.

The parallels exhibit the same wariness and stealth as the aspects, and they have the same dubiety about other people and their intentions. But they don’t have the strong competitive urge that characterizes the aspects—the need to make comparisons with other people. They too like to fee] that they ‘re on the inside track of things, that they’re smart and nobody’s fool; but they are more willing to accept their own limitations and those of others, rather than indulge in a game of sneering one-upmanship.

Venus-Mars: The aspects are gracious and engaging, with an easy manner and a genial disposition. Albeit highly sociable on the surface, they nonetheless maintain a coot reserve: they are quite adept at securing the validation they seek from the social whirl without in any sense compromising their own integrity or betraying their true feelings. They use their considerable charm to win and to woo, enabling them to get what they want from others without the necessity of entangling commitments.

The parallels are also cheerful and saucy—in fact they are far more brazen and open about what they’re really thinking than are the aspects (who usually gloss over their real intentions). Albeit as aloof as the aspects, they are far more straightforward and natural.

Venus-Jupiter: The aspects are cheerful and optimistic, yet they are a trifle standoffish. They have a sense of aristocratic superiority, of being above it all, unaffected by the hurly-burly of the hoi polloi. They have a delightful sense of humor—they are basically jovial people—but they also have a hard edge of stubbornness and prejudice in their mindset. They turn a deaf ear to anything they really don’t care to bear.

The parallels are as blithe and unconcerned as the aspects, but they are more down-to-earth, less pretentious. They have a deeper insight into themselves than the aspects do, and are more self-accepting and hence comfortable within themselves. Their good humor is the product of an inner joy rather than an outer loftiness.

Venus-Saturn: The aspects tend to be wary, reserved, and calculating. They play their cards close to the chest, and they have a real zest for all the power politicking and undercurrents of manipulation to he found in everyday life. They play life like a game, and are forever scoring little points for themselves. Quite aware of their own little ploys, they are equally suspicious and cynical about the motives of others. They have an ironic sense of humor, even about themselves.

The parallels are as cautious and cynical as the aspects but they have a more highly developed sense of detached and benign amusement; and they are nowhere near as intense and driven. They are basically loners (as are the aspects), but they are generally more interested in keeping themselves disentangled emotionally from other people, than they are with trying to control them.

Venus-Uranus: The aspects exhibit an extreme self-will and a spirit of sassy rebelliousness. While they are gregarious and sociable creatures on a personal tête-à- tête level, they are staunchly independent and resist being lumped together with other people. They psychologically distance themselves from any group (for example, family) in which they unavoidably find themselves, unless they are indisputably leading or in control of it. They are unbending, unyielding, pig-headed; but also quite nimble and free-spirited.

The parallels are as individualistic and emotionally self-sufficient as the aspects—in fact they’re even more off-beat and mischievous. They truly march to a different beat (rather than merely indulge their contrariness and wrong-headed insubordination). The parallels are admirably stubborn in following their own hearts.

Venus-Neptune: The aspects have a distracted, ethereal, otherworldly quality. They move through life in an absent-minded, perfunctory manner, as if late for an appointment in some other universe. They are open and candid about their feelings, and they are naive and trusting in their dealings with others. They close up like a mimosa at any harsh touch, yet their innocence inclines other people to treat them gently.

The parallels are as artless and outspoken as the aspects, but are not as supersensitive and out of it. They have a blunt, rough-and-ready manner (in contrast to the shrinking violet aspects), and they take delight in calling a spade a spade. They have the same childlike vulnerability, but since they’re real toughies they don’t need to appeal to other people’s indulgence for protection.

Venus-Pluto: The aspects have refined and delicate sensibilities, together with an acute perception of human nature. They have a penetrating grasp of emotional undercurrents, and the ability to sense and react to extremely fine shades of nuance. They tend to prefer the role of passive observer to that of active participants in their social milieu. They have a skeptical turn of mind, and can be very critical and exacting of other people.

The parallels are as perceptive and incisive as the aspects, but they are far more tolerant of the foibles of others , and hence less inclined to patronize people. The parallels are lighter, gemütlicher they lack the dark self-obsessions which characterizes the aspects. While equally detached, they take a broader, gentler, more humorous view of the people around them.

Mars-Jupiter: The aspects are characterized by an avuncular detachment and a general spirit of benevolence. Nonetheless, they are very stubborn and set in their ways, and quite impervious to other points of view. They can even be a bit thick at times, when their ornery bullheadedness shows through the facade of well-intentioned impartiality and reasonableness.

The parallels are as amiable as the aspects, but are fare more agile and diplomatic in their dealings with others. Like the aspects, they are plain-spoken and good-natured, but are not as overweeningly insistent on their own point of view. They have a true objectivity instead of merely benign detachment.

Mars-Saturn: The aspects have a serious, plaintive, intensely earnest demeanor, and a pained or pinched look in their eyes. They have an air of beleaguerment, of dogged exertion and unremitting struggle, with neither the time nor patience for frivolity and nonsense. They are responsible, disciplined, and hard working, but also intolerant and critical of others.

The parallels are as grimly determined as the aspects, and they have the same fortitude, but they are not so grave and overbearing. They have retained their sense of humor, and therefore can laugh at themselves and the world around them; hence they don’t have the sense of being besieged or the fear of being hemmed in by circumstances which characterizes the aspects. They have the knack of being cheerful in adversity and not taking setbacks personally.

Mars-Uranus: The aspects exhibit a wild and abandoned streak. No matter how sedate they may appear in repose, they are in fact creatures of impulse who secretly harbor a melange of utopian visions and crazy schemes. They are self-willed and buoyantly optimistic about their prospects. They charge on ahead with little forethought, concern for consequence, or sensitivity to the feelings of other people.

The parallels are as frisky and irrepressible as the aspects, and they have the same resolve and courage of their convictions. But they have a greater political sense than the aspects do—they know how and when to move warily and skillfully, and how to take other people into account. They are therefore more agreeable in their single-mindedness, and less prone to bluster and stonewalling.

Mars-Neptune: The aspects breeze through life on a cheeky and brazen insolence. They are not so much presumptuous as naive and inclined to take a lot for granted. They delight in being contrary, and have a spirited insouciance and elan. When they find that they’ve overreached themselves, they cheerfully shrug their shoulders and muddle their way through.

The parallels exhibit the same gumption and playfulness as the aspects, but they are a trifle more humble and self-effacing. They’re not as inclined to impose themselves on people because they have a well-developed sense of their own private space, and they can respect the space of others. They are equally mischievous and irreverent, but have a greater sensitivity and attunement to feelings.

Mars-Pluto: The aspects are brash, self-certain, and pig-headed. They are completely inflexible and unyielding, and they roll up their sleeves and lick their chops at any prospect of a good scrap. They have a lightening stomp which leaves most would-be opponents breathless, and a finality about their acts and proclamations which leaves no margin for misunderstanding their intentions and point of view.

The parallels are as stubborn and indomitable as the aspects, but they are wilier, more reflective, and therefore less intense. They thread their way around people and obstacles instead of battering their way through. While they can be as adamant as the aspects, they withdraw peacefully into themselves rather than stonewall and create needless conflicts.

Jupiter-Saturn: The aspects are cautious, pensive, and characterized by a vague disgruntlement with this world and its ways. They aren’t interested in the latest styles, trends, and buzzwords. They are not old-fashioned so much as nonplused—they act like perplexed foreigners even in their own milieu. They have a sense of being misfits, sad sacks, who nonetheless cling fierce]y to their own inner feeling for what is good and true. They have high ideals and standards of conduct to which they scrupulously adhere, and a moral courage which is the source of their deep inner pride.

The parallels have the same strong sense of personal integrity as the aspects, and they are equally detached from the prevailing cultural mores. But they are more reined, less self-conscious than the stiff and stuffy aspects. Although they stand apart from their society, they don’t warrant themselves to be above it with defensive contempt. They have a true policy of live and let live.

Jupiter-Uranus: The aspects are happy-go-lucky and devil-may-care. Albeit gregarious and cheery, they are not truly warm or sympathetic. Their aloof independence and intolerance of any stricture keeps them at a respectful distance from even their boon companions. There are times when they can become callous in their determination to pursue their own ends and enjoy life come what may.

The parallels are as perky and breezy as the aspects, and they have the same maverick streak. However, they have a somewhat greater awareness that there is more to life than just what they want this minute. While they are as detached and aloof as the aspects, they have a greater sense of perspective, and hence tend to be more respectful and gentler in their handling of other people.

Jupiter-Neptune: The aspects are expansive and outgoing, but also brusque, arbitrary, and high-handed. They are so idealistic and sold on their images and fantasies that they seem to exist in their own insulated bubble or island universe; and they look down upon this one with a somewhat snooty or superior distaste. While they are genuinely hopeful and convivial, they are also brash, absolutist, and never make excuses for themselves.

The parallels are as jovial and sociable as the aspects, and they can also be quite as blunt and removed. But they are more retiring than they are autocratic, and therefore they are less prone to meddle or presume too much. As they float along in their bubble, they are calm and unhurried, and skillful at avoiding collisions.

Jupiter-Pluto: The aspects are alert, insightful and outspoken. They have a rough sense of humor and a cockiness which is superior and self-mocking at the same time. They possess a penetrating understanding of human nature, but they also tend to feel that this puts them a notch above everyone else, which makes them mildly pompous and given to strutting.

The parallels have the same mental clarity and discrimination as the aspects, and they are every bit as jaunty and self-confident. But they have a greater depth and delicacy of feeling than the flamboyant aspects. They feel a stronger need to understand people than they do to dazzle them,

Saturn-Uranus: The aspects are steadying, thoroughgoing, and meticulous. They are extremely cautious and hesitant in any new situation, or until they’ve got their own feelings figured out; but once they’ve made up their minds they storm on ahead and burn all their bridges behind them. Of the planetary combinations which mean stubborn and inflexible determination, this one is about at the top of the list. They are extraordinarily tenacious and self-willed, and they make cold, hard, and unrelenting opponents

The parallels are as resolute and dogged as the aspects, and they are every bit as obstinate and unyielding. But they are more patient and humane than the touchy, fussy aspects, and less inclined to overstep themselves or intrude themselves on other people. They are willing to grant others the same rights and liberties which they insist on for themselves.

Saturn-Neptune: The aspects are private individuals, concentrated and intent on their own designs and feelings. They are dutiful and obliging, but otherwise stay within their own shells, They are quite sensitive and vulnerable, and have an air of pathos or anguish about them. Although they possess a great depth of feeling they have an extremely narrow focus of interest—they shy away from harshness or conflict, and they tend to plod through life wearing blinders of self-protection or self-pity.

The parallels are as emotionally self-cloistering and evasive as the aspects, but they have a great deal more joie de vivre. Like the aspects they have a sense of weariness and pain, but they don’t let it get them down. They maintain a positive and optimistic attitude towards life without the constant sighing of the aspects.

Saturn-Pluto: The aspects have a seething energy combined with a great self-restraint and nervous control. They have a "grit and bear it" fortitude, and are inured to (and even welcome) hardship and tests of Their mettle. They are obdurate and stoical, and can show a hatchet-faced indifference to other people’s feelings and limitations.

The parallels are as intense and self-contained as the aspects, and they have the same analytical detachment in the face of adversity. But they are much lighter in spirit and don’t have the sense of onus or begrudging which weights down the aspects. They too are ready for anything, but they great life with elan rather than throw down their gauntlet at it.

A Touch of Distinctiveness2

by M. J. Makransky
Published in Considerations VII: 2, April 1992

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posted November 17, 2006 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my goodness!
Will respond more soon.
Thank you.

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posted November 17, 2006 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now we have got some food for thought! (yay)

Well, I don't know much (well I hardly know anything ) about the parallel/contraparallel aspect but I already see where I disagree with the author (Uranus on MC!).

I disagree that people who have no (or few) parallels in their horoscopes are sociable, outgoing, and demonstrative and vice versa.

I also think parallel and contraparallel are different aspects, not the same thing.

I am also sure that planets that are simultateously parallel and conjunct are much more powerful than they are just conjunct or parallel (the same with oppositions and contra-parallels).

Declination of (contra) parallel is very much different from all the other aspects; actually it is not an aspect at all. You can see it in the sky but you can hardly calculate it so I think its nature must be quite different from that of the aspects but in what way? Is it something that cannot be noticed/seen by others i.e. our intuition or hidden talents? hmm

What do you think? BTW, I have always felt some of my parallels too especially these ones:
Sun parallel mean BML (no aspect)
Moon contraparallel Saturn (trine)
and Pluto parallel Chiron (no aspect)

and I have also just done synastry charts with 3 guys that were obsessed with me and 2 of them had their BML parallel my Venus (with no major aspects between them) and one had Venus, Mars parallel my Pluto, interesting...

Btw, there is another article to read!
http://www.widgetsworld.co.uk/search/go.php?art_id=1564

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posted November 17, 2006 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The parallel and contraparallel are only different in that they are not part of the ecliptic coordinates. They are latitude celestial equator coordinates. Right ascension are longitude celestial equator coordinates.

I agree that the parallel and the contraparallel are not the same. Also opposition is not the only aspect that can be accompanied by a contraparallel. My mother has Moon trine Uranus and Moon contraparallel Uranus. Magi Society says that's a bilevel configuration. Planets can also be trine and parallel. My girlfriend's moon and my moon are in trine,but they also parallel. Planets in Aquarius can be parallel Planets in scorpio due to antiscia.


I definitely believe that true Black Moon parallels are significant.

I have Mercury parallel true Black Moon,Venus parallel true black Moon,Neptune parallel true black Moon,and Saturn contraparallel true black Moon.


I have Sun contraparallel Pluto,Mercury parallel Venus(Mercury conjunct Venus too), Venus parallel Neptune,Mercury parallel Neptune,Saturn contraparallel Neptune,Mercury contraparallel Saturn,Venus contraparallel Saturn,and I don't agree with what he wrote about them. I can definitely relate to all of them as conjunctions and oppositions. I was reading my parallels and contraparallels as conjunctions and oppositions in my flower essence report,and they all hit home for me.

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posted November 17, 2006 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glausus,

you don't use mean BML at all only true? I am not sure about true but mean BML definitely works, both natal and transiting.

I read somewhere that true BML is a real 'black hole' in our chart while mean BLM is our imaginative hmmm I am confused.(even if we imagine a problem it does become a real problem later!)

I've got true BML conjunct Sun so now I don't know if what I feel is mean BML parallel Sun or true conjunct Sun.

Btw as far as I remember you said somewhere that it is possible to have (contra)parallel aspects canculated on astro.com too?

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posted November 17, 2006 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just use true Black Moon just like I use the true lunar nodes. Reading about Juan Revilla's stuff got me really into using the true Black Moon...especially reading about the astronomical features of the erratic movements that seem to fit the erratic nature of Lilith while the predictable circular motion of Lilith doesn't seem to fit that.
The roundness of the mean lunar apogee is not a good representative of the nocturnal and magic demoness Lilith. Roundness and steady motion belongs to the Sun. It is alien to the world of the Moon. I always take astronomical properties into account. I do that with the minor planets.
http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/blackmoon/lilith.html


I also read that true black Moon Lilith is referred to as Dark Moon Druj referring to an Iranian she-demon

I read that:
In the case of the Dark Moon the mean point demonstrate our notions about our subconscious problems and complexes, but the true point reveals these problems and complexes themselves. Most of people have these points in the limit of one sign, which means that they have at least an approximate idea about their subconscious complexes. But if you have these points in different signs, it's very hard for you to get the correct ideas - your notions can be disconnected with reality at all.

I am really not sure what to think about that. I do believe they have to do with subconscious complexes. After all, lunar apogee is based on the moon.
http://www.astrologer.ru/book/dark_moon/index.html.en


Maybe I shouldn't refer to true black moon as Lilith but as Dark Moon Druj.

I am open to insights about mean black moon as well as it could be referred to as Lilith.


both lunar apogees can be relevant in astrology.


The mythology of Druj seems similar to Lilith...the female demon stuff.

I have true black Moon conjunct my Sun with 23 minutes of arc,and I can totally relate to it ...especially involving father figures...My father was gone forever since I was 1 yr old,and so my father was literally absent. I fought against my controlling disciplinarian structuring stepfather who is the only father figure that I knew. I haven't seen my stepfather since I was 18 yrs old because my mother broke up with him. I clashed with authority figures in the US Navy which is also a very disciplinarian controlling structuring environment. I can relate to the whole interpretation.

Canopus intepretation:

Sun-Black Moon conjunction:
Being conjunct to the Sun makes the Black Moon extremely powerful.
Especially (but not only) in a female chart, a major aspect of Black
Moon to the Sun tends to create a 'Lilith character': strong-willed,
stubborn, independent mind and lover of freedom, original,
non-conformist, rebellious, passionately disliking routines and
enslavement at large. Lilith was the woman who did not need Adam and
left him - not a common thing to do in early biblical times - one
reason being that she bluntly refused to lie under him during
lovemaking.
There is a profound need to go beyond limitations of all kinds.
This, naturally, leads the native to challenge establishment. At
times, it will create difficulties; a Lilith character does not
hesitate to tell her/his boss what she/he thinks of him, and can't
give a damn about consequences once she/he has made up her mind to
do something.
The eyes shine, at times defiantly. The personality is sharp, with a
marked taste for intensity. This, in Clairvision language,
corresponds to violent astrality - venom in large measure!
There are strong likes and dislikes, and a tendency to know
immediately whether one likes someone or not.
This may have to do with the profound insights into the
psychological motivations of other people. Being herself/himself so
well in touch with her/his shadow, the native has a fine
understanding of other people's psyche. A Lilith character is often
subtle, with a great sense of nuances, and an EXTREME sensitivity.
Problems with the father:
With this aspect, it is not rare to find that the native had major
problems with the father (especially in the chart of a female).
Either the father was absent, or perceived as absent, or was fought
against. There is likely to be some deeply rooted wound in the
psyche, relating to the father, with profound consequences on the
whole organisation of the personality.
In symbolical terms this conflict with the father goes far beyond
childhood scenarios. It is the father image, in its widest meaning,
which is involved here. Think of Lilith, angry at God for making her
subjected to Adam's authority (and patriarchal establishment at
large), and lamenting, "How could He [God the Father] do that to
me?"
It is the same wound that you are carrying. It was so deep that it
never healed.
When experienced on its highest level, a major aspect of Black Moon
to the Sun can make the native quite psychic: premonitory dreams,
intuition, natural affinity with the hidden mysteries of life, and
clairvoyance.

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posted November 17, 2006 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yes..you can.

I always look at declinations in astro.com. Especially when looking at minor planets.


after you do your regular chart

just go to:
Additional data tables in Acrobat-PDF format are available for this chart, for free.
Click to get the additional tables


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posted November 17, 2006 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True Black Moon Lilith
14° Cancer, 6th house

Exactly conjunct Sirius,
the "Sun of our Sun",
trine my Sun by less than 1 degree,
trine my Venus by 1 1/2 degrees,
conjunct Nessus by 7 minutes.

hmm...

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posted November 18, 2006 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the interpretation, Glaucus, I can relate

I also think BML conjunct/parallel Sun can be responsible for psychotic depression and other depressive diseases.

HSC, I found some info on Nessus you can read it here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/011279.html

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posted June 29, 2010 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping for Parallels. Pretty cool thread, thanks for all the info.

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posted June 25, 2011 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joyrjw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, thank you

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