posted November 21, 2006 02:23 PM            

I like this part, and this is why I’m so grateful that I know a little something about astrology:

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But if he takes the situation as something needed, something which can help him grow and develop, then he's greeting the outer planet as a friend, and I think he gets the more creative edge of it. This is what I mean by crisis

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All relationships become a gateway to Pluto. So every time you allow anyone close to you, you invoke Pluto, and expose yourself to the experience of being changed and challenged and forced into your darker and less conscious emotional needs and drives.

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Thanks again, Professor Dragon!!
Mme Z

posted November 21, 2006 10:11 PM            

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The child with strong outer planet aspects tends to be singled out when he is young. He's usually the one the other children think is a little weird. He may suffer a lot from collective pressure in the form of conventional expectations, especially if the outer planet is in a prominent place like the ascendant or the midheaven. Because this child answers to a different drumbeat, he is often avoided by his soberer fellows who have aspects like sun-Saturn and sun-Jupiter and sun-Mars and are better adapted to the social order.

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posted November 22, 2006 10:28 PM            

"He's usually the one the other children think is a little weird. He may suffer a lot from collective pressure in the form of conventional expectations, especially if the outer planet is in a prominent place like the ascendant or the midheaven. Because this child answers to a different drumbeat, he is often avoided by his soberer fellows who have aspects like sun-Saturn and sun-Jupiter and sun-Mars and are better adapted to the social order."

Hell yeah..that was me. I was singled out when young because of my communication and coordination issues and being in special education. I was singled out by other kids as being the "retard" and then later on the "sissy" and being "fag" even though I am not gay. Being a highly sensitive,emotional boy with a high pitched voice got me teased and picked on by other boys and even rejected by many girls. Schoolmates referred to me as weird in high school.

I definitely have strong outer planet aspect s.. Neptune aspects including Neptune in t-square with Moon,Saturn,and Jupiter as well as Mercury parallel Neptune,Venus parallel Neptune,and Saturn contraparallel Neptune.

I have strong Saturn aspects,and those were like insecurity,inhibitions,shyness,reserved,rejection,and being very serious.

posted November 23, 2006 12:36 AM              

Your lecture article was wonderful and very interesting Thanks.

posted November 23, 2006 05:09 PM              

Having Venus inconjunct Pluto natally I have always had trouble understanding the exact implications of it, but this has certainly given it greater meaning.

I have also recently dated (intensely - pluto again) 2 guys with hard aspects to uranus & pluto...big lessons for me. But wierdly I in both cases felt like/was the Uranus person (it was present in synastry & it was my uranus aspected) even though that is not my true nature or more to the point my reactions didn't sit well with me at all! it was really hard to fathom actually.

posted November 24, 2006 02:13 AM            

Makes sense to me.

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'Would you know your Lord's meaning in this thing? Know it well. Love was his meaning. Who showed it to you? Love. What did he show you? Love. Why did he show it? For love. Keep yourself therein and you shall know and understand more in the same. But you shall never know nor understand any other thing, forever.'
- Julian of Norwich

posted November 24, 2006 12:36 PM              

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He unconsciously sets himself up to lose his job, or it's just fate that he loses it.

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the person must lose himself in order to find himself.

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and Uranus dresses as the partner who leaves you

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Pluto doesn’t aspect anything in my inner chart…

Thanks SO MUCH HD, that was brilliant!

posted November 24, 2006 12:37 PM            

Glad you are digging the lyrics and music.
AriesTiger is really talented, isnt she?
Have you seen her paintings?
I would love a Pisces stellium like she has.

"Juliana of Norwich (nôr'ich) [key], d. c.1443, English religious writer, an anchoress, or hermit, of Norwich called Mother (or Dame) Juliana or Julian. Her work, completed c.1393, Revelations of Divine Love, is an expression of mystical fervor in the form of 16 visions of Jesus. Dominant ideas are the great love of God for men and the detestable character of human sin. She is considered one of the greatest English mystics."

(The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia, 6th ed. Copyright © 2006, Columbia University Press. All rights reserved.)

Julian was forgotten for almost half a millenium, as her theology was out of step with the strict dogmatism of the church. She spoke of God's love, and of "wrath" as something entirely contrary to the nature of God, which is Love. She wasn't very popular in her time.

posted November 24, 2006 01:57 PM              

Amazing they did that!! And outrageous…but in your case it could be fate.

This reminds me...an English teacher once said “we are our worst enemy”...I don't believe that - as subconsciously we’re prolly trying to do what’s best - even tho on the surface it doesn’t appear so

Coming from an experienced self-sabotager