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Kohler
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posted December 11, 2006 08:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a question that has been bothering me for quite some time that I couldn't find any satisfactory answers to. I hope you guys/gals can help me!

I would like to know what is the significance of having a planet that is in a detrimental sign while at the same time occupying a critical degree. Cos I have Moon in Capricorn at 0 degree and Mars in Libra at around 26 degree (it is also a singleton cos it's my only planet in an Air sign). Both are in detriment and both are in critical degrees too. Does this mean that it brings out the worse side of the detrimental effect or does it mean nothing absolutely nothing and is only activated by a transit? I hope someone could enlighten me on this matter. Thanks!

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posted December 11, 2006 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this problem, a badly aspected rx saturn in cancer in the 4th house at the 29th degree.

All I can say is that the 29th degree (and other critical degrees) give us the live lessons that have to be dealt with in this lifetime, in my case, I have to learn structure somehow.

The detriment makes it act in ways that are not suitable to it. For example in my case, saturn structures my feelings in domestic settings, which is inappropriate as feelings are typically ruled by cancer in this case and should take a shape as it suits while my saturn is forcing it to take one, defined shape.

Retro again makes me turn inwards, on my feelings.

I'd say for moon in cap, its the same thing as saturn in cancer. The moon is deposited by capricorn and capricorn is trying to structure emotions which is not suitable for moon. Critical degrees add the life lesson aspect to it.

As for mars in libra, libra is about diplomacy, seeing things from multiple ways, beauty. Mars is about one direction, arguing from one point of view. So gain mars is trying to be diplomatic - hard to do.

I really don't know what takes precedence though, does it mean that with the placements you have, you have to teach your moon to be cappy/mars libran or do you have to unravel this pattern of behaviour? I'd say the latter, as these characteristics you are born with and I suppose they are detrimental, so maybe placements in critical degrees indicate an importance to the planet in your life but asking maybe that these planets act in their true state.

Likewise singletons give an unaspected quality to a planet that really stands out. It might give you a gift of some sort or that you are somehow overexerting the martian qualities in yourself.

Hope that helps?!

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Kohler
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posted December 11, 2006 09:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks 23 for your kind reply and your explanation has been very helpful and makes alot of sense . From what I have gathered, having a planet in detriment at a critical degree is essentially a life long journey to try to act out the qualities of the opposite sign, to 'balance' it out, the fact that it is also on a critical degree highlights the importance of the lesson, am I correct in analysing it that way?

So perhaps my Mars in Libra in the 6th house means that I may have to be more assertive in an Aries like way in the workplace and not be a doormat(?). Although I have a Mars singleton I don't feel like I'm very assertive at all in fact I'm a real pushover in real life . And also my Moon in Cap in 8th house perhaps means I shouldn't try to control/structure my emotions when it comes to matters that deal with sex/death and the like?

Talking about the 29th degree, I also have Neptune in 29th degree conjuncting my 0 degree Cap Moon in the 8th house, which kinda complicates matter again. How would I interpret that?

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posted December 11, 2006 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kohler, I must add that this is my interpretation of these issues, I might be wrong. I'd encourage others to debate this.

In relation to 8th house, yes you would tend to structure your emotions to these issues - death, sex but also other peoples' money, inheritance.

The anarectic Neptune means you have issues to deal with neptune in that sign (sag) before neptune moves into Cap. Therefore, you might have to learn to be spiritual in a philosophical way or learn how to deal with spirituality in a sag way in your lifetime. It is a debate as to whether there is a conj to your moon, most people would indicate that it would be but it would be called a disassociate aspect (an aspect involving planets in signs that traditionally wouldn't produce an aspect, eg in my chart aqu sun opposes saturn in cancer) and therefore it wouldn't have the "traditional" feel of a conjunction, maybe its weaker, not sure. So in your case, you might be a spiritual soul but the spirituality of your neptune doesn't quite match with moon (joyous compared with reserved/structured).

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Kohler
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posted December 13, 2006 09:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks once again for the explanation, it sounds quite involved and complicated! I guess the disassociate aspect perhaps mean that my spirituality belief (Sag) is a completely different from my emotional habits (Cap). I've went back and took a look at my chart, I have discovered that I have quite a few of those disassociate aspects, no wonder I'm a bundle of contradictions hehe.

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 13, 2006 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My moon in Scorpio is at 1 and my bf's moon in capricorn is at 1

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