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alanabelle86
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posted December 13, 2006 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My heart is heavy. My soul is weary and struggling. So full of hope yet fear of tomorrow.

My personal life has conflict and struggle...quite a bit actually. But nothing..and I mean nothing, hurts me more than the world's pain. I've felt it since I was younger, very receptive to other people, cultures, social issues, world issues. Things we should be coming together and working as one to solve and make better for ourSelves, and yet we throw it away. Continually- we lose time, and we lose opportunity through war, conflict, hatred, prejudice, pride, ignorance, greed, and selfishness..along with everything else negative you can think of. Animals are suffering at our expense... people...suffering at the expense of everyone....
I cant even explain what the hell im talking about.. I just know that since as long as I could remember I absorb all the hateful feelings, ignorant attitudes, etc. and it hurts me more than anything physical or verbal ever could... to the deepest of my very soul...I almost want to be the one to change it all but just knowing I cant makes me want to crawl in a hole and wait till it's all over.

I feel ridiculous sometimes cuz I know a lot of people who can't sympathize or relate when I try to explain...so much we take for granted, so much we have to do. so many people straying from their true purpose blinded by material things and superficiality...


It makes me want to be bitter and hateful and be spiteful towards everything. Sometimes I believe its far easier to just not care/ignore and try and block out this feeling but its so hard...almost impossible..


I just don't know what to do with myself. I literally feel helpless...and I just cant explain it.

I attribute it to Neptune being one of (possibly the strongest) planet in my chart as an earth singleton in Capricorn, a cardinal singleton, and the only planet in a cadent house (3rd)...it forms a tight (0) sextile to my Sun.. and besides that a sextile to Pluto (1st) and no other aspects ... blah

Does any other heavy Neptunian people here feel the same way/similar?

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Swerve
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posted December 13, 2006 10:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The world's pain is as nessecary as it's joy.

Feel it, acknowledge it and accept it.

Everything is only ever at the point it can be at that moment.

Perhaps you could divert your energy and compassion to yourself and find your place in all the madness. Then you would find purpose and be all that YOU can be at that moment.

In a way pushing your own personal part of the World forwards.


Swerve

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Dulce Luna
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posted December 13, 2006 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooooh, this heavy neptune/12th houser understands your pain Alanabelle. No advice here but I think the word your looking for is Empathy. It can be so draining sometimes though. I think its all in the people we surround ourselves with. I can't deal with negativity anymore which is why I've "divorced" certain people in my life.

As for the world's problems, I'm still not sure about that one but I still like to keep myself aware.

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amisha121877
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posted December 13, 2006 10:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow - that's heavy and broad alanabelle86

try to talk about it more - anyway, you can

everybody and everything CAN make a difference in their own way

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alanabelle86
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posted December 13, 2006 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that's just it..cuz believe me, i understand that pain is necessary for joy..

but it seems that the kind of pain especially a lot of it that is so unnecessary is just maddening and it's even more maddening that there really is nothing we can do..besides hope for some kind of awakening

I know that wont stop conflict, wars and pain but I mean...people really need to stop being so damn ignorant and cruel to each other...

And like, don't get me wrong because I love science and support it in every way but I think we're getting a little tooout of hand meddling with things. It's liek we're starting to believe we OWN the universe and that we're bigger than any spiritual enitity or force or even mother nature by constantly pushing our limits..


I just heard we're gonna possibly build a permanent station on the moon...I mean I don't know if that fires anyone else up but I was enraged...

sorry this is turning into a rant...I go through these phases where I accept it all, and do what I can..realizing I am only one, and as long as I understand and do my best then my best will be enough...

and then sometimes I just get so ANGRY arg...


and it's the feeling of absorbing everything at once all the time, constantly being fully aware of what's below the surface (or what's not) and it just forming a cocoon and encircling me and gaining more and more power till I burst..

ay, ay ay...

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alanabelle86
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posted December 13, 2006 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Swerve
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posted December 13, 2006 10:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The station on the Moon could be seen as a good thing. If we don't start looking outside of this planet we will die.

By the time we can do that we should be more civilised. As long as we keep progressing maybe we will be spreading love to a cold Universe.

You never know.

I appreciate everything you said deeply. I've said exactly that myself.


Swerve

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amisha121877
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posted December 13, 2006 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it is said that to include the word hope in your wishes leaves room for doubt

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karmafx
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posted December 14, 2006 01:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a heavily aspected neptune and i am sensitive to all those things you mentioned. however, i dont feel heavy or hateful or bitter about things. nor do i fear tomorrow. maybe some outrage or disgust at times. i think you should channel all that energy to make a difference in the world instead of absorbing all the pain only to let it torture you. come to think of it, that may be partly why i don't feel bitter, etc.

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Lialei
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posted December 14, 2006 09:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your awareness is a beautiful gift, alanabelle. Unfortionately the most beautiful gifts are also our greatest crosses to bear.
To be a deeply feeling person is to also feel the deepest pain. But, I would guess that also the subtle beauties of the world that sadly often go unnoticed, are magnified thousandfold in your heart. Your blessing.

I do understand.
I sometimes lay awake at night, and think of all the horrors that are occuring in the world in that very moment--especially abuse to children.
It's a helpless feeling to feel there's nothing you can do in that moment to save them.

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teaologist
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posted December 14, 2006 03:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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martian
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posted December 14, 2006 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alanabelle86-

Yes, we do feel the way you do. We do feel anger and hatred. We do feel the pain of others when they are suffering. We feel these emotions on different levels. We also have our unique way of dealing with it.

I say give a dollar when you have one. Talk to the homeless man on the corner like a person. Reconcile with your family and friends. Forgive the guy who told you to go f-yourself.

it works for me. but i dont know.

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kindjali
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posted December 14, 2006 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindjali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in 12th house here, sitting right next to AC.
I understand...

K.

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Gooberzlostlovefound
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posted December 14, 2006 07:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me too......................

Sun Conjunct Neptune

Mars in Pisces
Jupiter in Pisces

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Jazzebel
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posted December 14, 2006 08:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Swevre (did I spell that nick right? No?)...twice on this thread I lifted my finger to type my thoughts, and both times you had already spoken for me, in the exact same words. Are you a Virgo too, by any chance?


I know how you feel alanabelle, I`ve got my fair share of Neptune in my chart, and a Pisces Rising on top of it all. I`ve never considered that a burden, however. I suspect i thrive under state of pain.
My empathy is rather sporadic thou.
Guess Nepti gives me a break every now and then...

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InLoveWithLife
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posted December 14, 2006 08:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Swerve

those are words i will cope and paste and keep safe with me somewhere

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The world's pain is as nessecary as it's joy.

Feel it, acknowledge it and accept it.

Everything is only ever at the point it can be at that moment.

Perhaps you could divert your energy and compassion to yourself and find your place in all the madness. Then you would find purpose and be all that YOU can be at that moment.

In a way pushing your own personal part of the World forwards.


ILWL

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