posted December 22, 2006 09:24 PM              

anyway, it came out nov 1st of this year, it shot to number 2 on Amazon.com, as of today its at two thousand something, but for a sec it was WAAAAAY up there. its a small book, small enough to put right in the sidelines of supermarkets while women wait in line, small enough for a woman to put in her purse (as big as they come nowadays!)

It was a total ingenius idea. they put all these actors and make up artist's names on the front cover...women that women see everyday in life and they sold a book and made millions in a month!

A book on Linda would sell like Wacko! No internet in the past, now we have it, advertisement!!! Advertisement in all languages...Sun Signs came out in 68, all those people that are still alive and were affected my Linda's words...If a book comes out that is right on the money with facts....people would buy that book in a blast.

If i knew that the info was stone chiseled I would buy it too. the time of buying books where we don't know if things are true, if Linda wrote things or if they were her notes...those days are over. Crystal was not the HOLDER of the FLAME, not in a million Years!

Linda's Agent is still alive...if he was involved in this, and I don't think he is, but if he was...do you think he wouldn't sell that book...find a person that would pick it up and then that publishing company wouldn't push that book to death.

Heck they tried to sell a book by crazy A$$ OJ simpson on HOW HE WOULD HAVE KILLED TWO PEOPLE...do you think they wouldn't find a away to sell a book on Linda?

Hgtv made it seem as if she disappeared...lol. what other magic would a publicist pull out of there butt...hahaha.

People magazine, Extra, Insider Hollywood...all those places...it would be all over the tv..all it takes is ONE night of advertisement...do you know how many people watch that stuff, I DO! Writing a book is so easy! Getting someone to pick it up and sell it, thats the ticket. you can go to the book store, example, my girlfriend bought me for my birthday bought me Gary Goldschneider's PERSONOLOGY, Gary wrote the books, THE SECRET LANGUAGES OF BIRTHDAYS,THE SECRET LANGUAGE OF RELATIONSHIPS AND THE SECRET LANGUAGE OF DESTINY. My girl bought this book for me, it was priced at 40 dollars, 52.95 in Canada, she got it in burbank at Barnes and Noble for $4.99. FIVE DOLLARS!!! Mr. Goldschneider's reputation got him a "NO Problem" step in the door because of his other books, but this one flopped. Its a different Publishing company, someone else tried to take a chance, but if its at 5 bucks now...well thats not good.

A bio on Linda would fly like the sky...It would fly faster written by one or all of her children, it would go farther than A book written by a fan.

posted January 03, 2007 09:45 AM              

'Tis I, Maria Barron, Mary Barron, WriteOn, administrator of ConsciousEvolution.com, and on this site, Bearing Small Gifts.

If you'll search out posts under my username on this site, you'll see why I chose Bearing Small Gifts for my username. I brought you the handwriting samples from Linda when people at this site asked for them, and I've presented a few other little things for all of us Linda fans, here and there, including the profile that Randall liked so well.

The profile is here:
Linda Goodman profile

The thread where Randall was so sweet in his compliments about it is here:
Linda Goodman's Date of Birth

The tape of Linda reading Gooberz, which I did indeed find in Linda's desk, is here:
Linda Reading Gooberz
It was no accident that I received the tape, and a number of other items. In fact, Randall's and Rainbow's communications facilitated it, and I told them that and thanked them in yet another thread you can find, that went on and on and on, in our ConsciousEvolution.com, Linda Goodman Astrology, Linda's Life forum.

Your site and ours (LindaGoodman.com and ConsciousEvolution.com) share Linda's Star Notes, which are here: http://consciousevolution.com/star-notes/index.htm

If you don't want to take the time to search out my name for Linda's handwriting samples on this site, I can also direct you to those at CE, which are here:
Linda's Lovely Script

I wrote that profile for the original LindaGoodman.net, and I have left it on our site, following Gregory's passing, just as LindaGoodman.net chose originally to publish it, although I wasn't completely pleased with a bit of rearrangement and deletion done by someone at the company that commissioned the article from me (the original LindaGoodman.net).

I have also left Gregory's introduction to the tapes just as he wrote it, years ago.

Both my parents are professional non-fiction writers with strong backgrounds in journalism. I am a professional nonfiction writer with a strong background in journalism. Linda Goodman was a professional nonfiction writer with a background in journalism. I have been paid for literally thousands of pieces of writing. That is my profession.

Here is an article I wrote on the astrology of the Star of Bethlehem, which the National Catholic Reporter ran as a cover story, and which won the second place award for Best Feature Writing in a National Publication from the Catholic Press Association of the United States and Canada. There was a beautiful color cover picture with it in the print version. I was so tickled that I managed to get an astrology article into a Catholic-focused publication. (Note: It's an Independent Newsweekly, not owned or controlled by the church, but actually founded to bring an independent perspective to the faith.) Then, after being tickled about being published in that genre, I was really taken aback to receive the award. The piece was also republished in Catholic Digest. Here's a link to the online version of the original:
Star of Wonder
Sorry that it doesn't directly have to do with Linda, except that, like her, I started digging into theories about the chart of Jesus.

I do not think I know O'Irish or nannyk, although I would be happy to get to know them. I don't know whether I may know Trillian? But if I do, then I do not know her "as" Trillian, I only know that she has been kind to me when I have posted here. I am, admittedly, only guessing that she is a she. I do want, very much, to salute you, Trillian, in a Namaste sense, for your very principled discussion relative to this hub-bub. I am a huge fan of thoughtful, principled people who do not rush forward, spears and hammers in hand, in response to someone's perplexing and obvious attempt to try to provoke war between people or groups.

Namaste also to Acoustic God and others whose replies I didn't see when I first responded to this on O'Irish's thread on the Linda's Life forum. Thank you for your thoughtfulness and understanding!

Back in the day, we had a saying, "What if they gave a war and nobody came?"

Thorshammer, I don't believe I know you, and I'm quite sure from what I've managed to make out here of what you have written, that you don't know me. I'm not terribly mystified, but certainly saddened, that you've chosen to try to create ugliness among people in Linda's name, and that you have also chosen to try to create anger and pain in her family, in Linda's name.

I do not wish to offend you or anyone else, regardless of the offense you seem bent upon giving. For any offense I give, I am truly sorry.

Not only Michael, but also others of Linda's family and friends, are well acquainted with my partner in this biography project. I think perhaps, and I don't mean this as a "cut" against you, but simply a statement to someone who must be in a different profession than I am ... I think perhaps you may not totally understand the vast amount of time already spent and the vast amount of time yet to go, that must be put into the research process. I think you also may not understand that oftentimes it is best for factual writers to save direct interviewing of the sources who are the very nearest and dearest to the subject for a later, particular part of the process, for extremely good reasons.

Michael is a very good man. He knows more than you give him credit for.

I have no idea what you are trying to say regarding Hazelwood. Certainly everyone knows that Hazelwood is about Linda being a descendant of Lincoln! That's been common knowledge on the CE site for many years. Certainly I have known that for many years, and I have that manuscript along with all of Linda's other unpublished manuscripts.

Truly, this whole hub-bub is beyond silly, along with being sad and counter-productive to anyone genuinely interested in Linda Goodman and her work. Perhaps you would rather not have heard Linda reading Gooberz? Perhaps you would rather not have seen examples of her handwriting? Perhaps you would rather not know her true birthday, etc., which I was the first person ever to publish, after verifying it through her very own documents, as I noted on that birthdate thread, the link to which I posted above.

It was also I who found her high school, etc., which you then followed up on by getting yearbook pictures. You wouldn't have known where to look if I hadn't written that profile. So much of what you discuss on "your" Linda's Life forum comes from research I did. And now you'll bite the hand that feeds and pretend you did it on your own.

Perhaps I should be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail for sharing those gifts? Or perhaps, although I am not a perfect soul, I have provided blessings, for those with eyes to see ... eyes unclouded by their own personal agendas.

Thanks for listening.

posted January 05, 2007 02:06 AM              

Thorshammer,
I’ve been perplexed by the acceleration and force of your campaign...and the timing.

Do you know that Rainbow was a close friend of Greg Ellison’s? And also a friend of Maria? She holds Greg in high esteem, loves him dearly....he is the same Greg that her son mentioned in her prayer thread that has been ‘visiting’ with her and telling her she’ll be ok. She would be very distressed if she were to see him being shed here in such an untrue and ugly light. I know if she were able, she’d be the first here to defend his honor.

She, as I, and many others who knew him, thought the world of him and know that the things you are saying about him could never in any way have been true. He was/is a humble, honest, kind and gentle soul. A man of integrity and his word. A man who cared, sincerely passionately cared about people...non-judgementally, openly accepting and welcoming to everyone. And because he was a humble Virgo, would probably be blushing and self-effacing at such adulation. He was Genuine, sincere. He never would have even engaged the thought of taking advantage of another being.
All the same can be said of Maria.

I don’t understand how you could come to such quickly condemning judgements of other’s characters without knowing them, and without much effort invested in researching. Or acknowledging the obvious kindnesses that were shown throughout time as something meaningful...as with consideration and compassion, they should be.

There has never been thought of animosity or divisions between sites. As Maria has shown in her links, she and Greg have always been openly sharing and thought of LindaLand as a sister site. And there are other sister sites as well, not just CE and LL. There’s a beautiful wide webring of people out there who are united by a common spiritual searching within themselves, and Universal Caring, with many posting simultaneously, or periodically meeting each other and crossing paths in hail-fellow-met wonderful ways on their journeys. When Greg died 2 years ago, all the sites joined (LL included) in tribute and prayer for him. It was a most touching moment and beautiful sight to behold. His loving presence reached distances that I never knew or realized before.

I don’t know how many of you here at Linda Land realize how many sites out there have branched off of each other. When Greg passed, that feeling I felt then of a big warm extended family was so cool, I thought. So warming to the heart. The way they’re weaved together by unseen chords (as All in Oneness), yet distinct. The way people pass through, sharing and spiraling thoughts...learning together. Going away...coming together again. Some of you may know me as BlueDove (hello), for that’s been my username at all the others, but here. Thorshammer, your love and passion for Linda is apparent, yet should it be about who loves and honors Linda most? Should it be a competition? We are all different, caring and honoring in our own ways, yet bonded in an unknown/unspoken way....that is the most meaningful. Why should we compare? Difference is beautiful....accepting is uniting.

All you need do is read to find what it is your seeking....with an open heart & mind, stilling yourself before judgement. It will not be the terrible vision you are envisioning. It’s all there honestly on open pages. The kindness and generosity of spirit...the hope for the conscious evolution of a united world.

Maria has always been open about writing Linda’s biography. Those of us at CE knew of it for years, it’s been no deceitful hushed secret. All you had to do was read the archives back there a bit to see. Or perhaps read back one or two pages in your own Linda’s Life forum to see the kindnesses they have shown LL, bearing gifts....certainly not in the spirit of hoarding, but in the spirit of giving. Loving Linda’s work and so, because they found joy, wanting other’s to experience it too.

posted January 08, 2007 01:10 AM              

I don’t really care what your background is, it seems as if you’re trying to impress us with you back ground, for what do your parents have to do with this subject? I really could care about those things respectively.

I want to know why you would release those words you stated last year about Linda attitude towards people without stating who told you those things. They are just hearsay and if you were really a good researcher you would have found the family and asked if those words were true, or you would have asked them info about there mother, instead you wrote things (that were negative a year ago) that hurt her family.

You say that not only Michael, but others of Linda’s family and friends, are well acquainted with your partner in this biography project, but why don’t they know you. Michael stated to me that he knows not you nor anyone else related to this project, nor that anyone was taking the time to write a biography on his mother, nor do his brother or sister. You have been working on this project for sometime, but you haven’t taken the time, nor has your partner to contact a major factor to the book…at least it should be a major piece. I can only wonder if once again you will “find” others to tell you quotes and misinterpretations of what “her Children said”

THIS IS THE BASIS OF IT ALL. You talked about her last year in no fashion that would show her as being “HUMAN” you basically just went off at the mouth about the bad things she did. I told Emily to find what she was looking for, being a curious soul, she ask many questions. She went to CE asking anyone what they knew of Linda and the children and you answered her in the most negative way. You basically said her children did not care about their mother when they did, you took words from peoples who obviously didn’t give a care and you twisted some of those words to make it seem as if her children were bad…now you want to write:

“Michael is a very good man. He knows more than you give him credit for.”

Well of course he’s a good man…He’s very intelligent and he agree with me 100%. He agree that you were wrong and he wonders, “why would someone that would speak that way about his mother, someone who says she loves his mouth, someone who could just look in the directory for his name, his brother, or sister…why wouldn’t that person just contact he or them for answers instead of write things she didn’t really know were true.

He also said, ‘if you’re going to write the book, no one can stop you, Crystal stole from his mother, why wouldn’t anyone else…BUT WHY MARIA….WHY haven’t you contact ME”

So I ask you, why haven’t you contacted the one person who spent more time with their mom than other siblings, why haven’t you gone to a clearly easy source of info, someone who sat and listened to his mother’s conversation, talked to her about all kinds of things, what’s up with that.

I am so happy you came here to discuss this “Hub-BUB,” because in all your writing, you haven’t stated why you responded to Emily (listen to trees) last year with those words and why you haven’t contacted her children.

My dear with all the research you have been doing, why haven’t you contacted the most important vessel for your book?

Could it be you were afraid they would freak out and try to stop you? Could it be you were afraid a piece of the profit would be taken away? I only ask these things, because if you haven’t contact her children, and I know you nor your partner have not….it just seems that you are taking the same road as Crystal Bush did, at least that’s what it seems like. Tell me if I am wrong?

You have written literally thousands of pieces, can you give me more than one piece, I would really like to see these other works you have done, please let me know if they are in the name Maria Baron, Mary Baron or some other name…though your writings have nothing to do with this subject.

Why haven’t you or your partner contacted Linda’s children for info to be included in your book?

If you are saving the direct interviewing of the sources who are the very nearest and dearest to the subject for a later, particular part of the process, for extremely good reason-I ask you this, were you going to tell them that you printed that someone told you that one son said “don’t call me until my mother is dead and another one said that she was nuts? Maria if you are as good of a writer and researcher as you have stated, I don’t see you telling these men that you wrote those things about their mother. No one in their right mind is going to just read your piece in CE and say, “oh we understand that you quoted someone else that told you we said those things, yes go ahead and write about our mother…we understand.”

This is the basis of this whole discussion. You or your partner, who ever that is, do you really think that topic would be pushed to the side. I don’t think anyone wants anyone writing a bio on their family member when that person states things that are not true about the siblings. But you know what, you can discuss that with him when you see him…IF you want to.

For anyone listening RIGHT NOW…if you really want to SEE and HEAR and UNDERSTAND anything….all you need to do is read words already said.

Now last year you wrote in response to Emily’s post on CE, she told me you responded and I went to read it. I was shocked that you would write those things and not put a single name down of who told you those things. Sure you said it was known that Michael said his mother was nuts, but the way you worded it…it just came out with the intent that he didn’t care about his mother, nor the older son pertaining to phone call about not calling him until she was dead. Now I read it and just let it go because I didn’t really care what you had to say there, if you were going to bad mouth her and her children, what are you showing people in your site? Now you state you are working on a piece pertaining to Linda, but last year you were ranting about her bad sides, her children and the way she treated people. I don’t think you said one good thing about her in that response, you just went on and on about her temper and such things, and you could have stopped and found out more reliable info on the matter before you responded to Emily. Of course this info was from people with no names, you stated that you were finally going to tell what you knew…you took your deep breath and wrote things as if there was some secret that we all didn’t know about Linda’s temper. The way you wrote it was to the affect of making one think “it didn’t matter about Linda nor her children”

Maria as far as the yearbook pictures….I don’t know what article you wrote on it, because I don’t frequent CE, so I have no idea what you are talking about…you see unlike you I do my research and it would never come from anything that you have written, because you have shown that you are inaccurate in your writings.

You wrote those things about Linda and the boys, but you didn’t even take the time to look them up in a directory and see if those things were true…but “I DID.” You have known those things for how long? You could have called Michael and asked what he meant by saying his mother was nuts, or you could have asked if his brother really stated for no one to call him until his mother passed on, you could have, but you didn’t and there has to be a reason for that, but you of course won’t tell us all what that reason is…right?

No, I didn’t get the yearbook info from anything with your name on it. I contacted one of Linda’s classmates, and we all know that person is not you, because your not that old.

Maria if you go to this link and read the topic “this dang picture” you will see that the info wasn’t from you, but from a contact who knew Linda, not from anything that you wrote ever. Through the discussion you will find LMB stating the person I spoke of that gave me the yearbook pictures grew up with Linda and worked with her…your not LMB too…are you? Then you would also be a moderator here and you didn’t state that in the beginning of your intro here.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000231-3.html

LMB stated: Thorshammer,
I know your contact; I contacted this person years ago and we are friends now. The yearbook picture is Linda, is Mary Alice Kemery. If some choose not to believe, all right, but I know the contact was a real friend and confidant of Linda's - both in high school and in her early days at the radio station.
love and light,
LMB
if you want to email me, you can at lmb@linda-goodman.com
i think that still works.

This contact is not you. I got nothing from you and I wouldn’t get anything from you because I truly think your not dependable with info.

These are the emails that I and the person Linda went to school with. They took place on April 15, 2005, I have left initial for name…I mean anyone can go on the internet and find this person if they really wanted to…no need to hide what I find. I bring great gifts (in my opinion) to my brothers and sisters, but before I bring them I make sure they are correct.

Emails between myself and “J”

Sorry to disappoint you, but I do not have much information re Linda or Sam. Sam was working as DJ at our station, and when Mary Alice started there, I introduced her to Sam. I was there only a short time afterwards and left for a job in television. I kept track of them for awhile, learned that they had both left the radio station, and were working in Pittsburgh where they later married.
I lost track then, and years later realized that she had become famous after writing "Sun Signs."
She was a lovely, intelligent lady, and a very capable employee. Glad you're keeping her memory alive.
-js-

Mr. S
Thank you very much for your response. Just Knowing that you worked with them and were apart of that wonderful work crew; for who would know that she would go on to write all those books and mention Sam also, making his name immortal in peoples minds all over the world!!!

Thank you for your kind words in response to my reply .
Actually, Kelly, I do know a little more about Linda than I told you before. I assume you're familiar with "Gooberz." On page 14, she says, "...then he would sit with me for awhile, as I ate to watch the windmill go round and round the one on top of the service station across the street." Here's a picture of that windmill service-station.
I must ask for your promise NOT to reveal to anyone where you get this information re Linda. You can post the stuff on your web-site....but do not make any mention of its origin. I do not want to get involved in what I know would be a overwhelming amount of e-mail, phone calls, etc....and I just do not want that. I assure you anything I give to you or say to you is true. May I ask if you are old enough to have seen Linda on TV, or read her books as they were published....or did you learn of her after you grew up?

Mr. See,
I wish that I had gotten that email from you earlier. I did post your first response to me on the page. But I have told the others that you do NOT want to be bothered with any kind of email what so ever, so You shouldnt get any. It’s not my web site, but a site dedicated to Linda, I am just a member on there. I would not worry, they are a quiet bunch and very interesting. I dont know if you have heard, but there is a big controversy about Lindas birthdate, she never wanted to give it out, and many people have speculated over what it is. some want to know, and others would rather that no one know for the sake of Lindas say so.

I appreciate your efforts in getting my ID out of the post. Whatever I send, it will be through you, and it can be posted if you wish, but please do not reveal where you got it. I just don't want to deal with some who would try any way possible to get information from me regarding Linda, and I don't want to be bothered to that extent. You might like this photo. It's Linda's graduation picture from her yearbook (1943.) I enlarged it some, and it's a little grainy, but this is what she looked like when she was 17. I know she was born in Morgantown, but she would just not talk about birthdays. From Gooberz, I know it was in April, but the specific date is not really known. Her birth certificate is not on file in this county.
BTW, Her father was Robert Kemery and her mother was Annette. He drove a truck route for a local bakery. Linda was an only child.
That out of body experience you had is really fascinating. I listen to George Noory's "Coast to Coast" overnight....and am always so interested the stories of people who have experiences like that.

on the site I ran into trouble, no one beleives that the picture you gave me of linda at age 17 is really her. they're all comparing recent photos, still shots and such. What I see is a young girl, in the other pictures I see a woman, not a girl. so I am not going to argue with them, for I believe that your picture is true and worthy.
You see why I hesitate to get involved in this. Doesn't matter what you post, somebody's gonna claim you're lying. Maybe this will help. As you may, or may not know, the first eight cantos of "Gooberz" is all autobiographical. She names names of friends...most of them I also knew, and real places and real happenings. Since I had a "steady" girl all through hi-school, I did not run too much with her crowd then. I came into the picture later on, in the early 50's. But, that's another story. On page 48 of "Goobers," second paragraph from the top, she names six girls who were special friends. I've sent 4 pictures, taken from the yearbook. I did not include the entire page, but each has 3 rows of 3 pictures. The first is Mary Alice herself. She turned 18 in April, 1943, and the pictures for the yearbook were taken in Feb. and March, so she was 17. The two others have pictures of two of her friends mentioned. Carolyn Fay and Mary Jean Corbitt. The fourth is the fly-leaf from the yearbook. Am sending these in two groups, so the files will not take as long to load. I don't know what else to tell you. Of course, she was a girl then, but I can see the woman she became. Not sure too many others even WANT to.

Here are the other two pictures...of Carolyn Fay and the fly-leaf from her yearbook, where these pictures came from

I feel that I put you in a spot that I should not have, but I am so happy that you gave me that ammo of love. I say Ammo of love, because I think those guys needed a dose of reality. Linda was a beautiful woman (from the pictures that we see), those pictures are of coures Public Relations, the ones on the books.
mail.yahoo.com

I thank you for those very kind words. I hope the additional pictures I sent will clarify the situation...although I doubt it. None are so blind as those who WILL NOT see. Could you do me a favor? For the first few times, that "Yahoo Photo" address you sent me, that has the pictures came up...but now it shows it as being unavailable, and the window says to check with owner of file. Is there any way you can allow me access to those pictures? I don't know why it allowed me access at first, but now won't. I can't get any other window in that site to open. In any event, could you re-send that address. I moved the other one into my "favorites" file...and maybe that had something to do with why it won't open. Thanks. –
j-

so you see, I didn’t get any info pertaining to anything you have ever wrote, though now I am curious to see what you are talking about since you haven’t posted a link for me to read like the other things you did above. And if you wrote a piece on linda and the “yearbook” did YOU put any pictures of her from the book on CE….?

Though talking to “J” I was still skeptically, I wanted the truth to be known, so I ordered the year book to make sure that those things said to me were true, the people and the contacts and I talked to some people in Morgantown who knew Linda, of course they all couldn’t’ be lying, so all that was told to me was true.

So my Maria, I got nothing from you nor did I turn any story you wrote around called it mine. The year book find was so magical and not even connected to anything, I just wrote a very nice old man and asked him what he knew of Linda and Sam and he was nice enough to send me those shots of she and her friends.

I am laughing here, because if you did write anything pertaining to a year book where were the pictures?

Now my AGENDA: My agenda is to question anyone who one year talks crap about a person I truly care about. You, if anyone knows that Linda’s words are pure, it shouldn’t matter IF she was angry at people and shot out at them…there is a reason for everything and as michael stated, she didn’t trust people, and people who said they would be there for her, people in Cripple Creek, they never came through, of course she would act a certain way toward those coming to her door.

You didn’t even try to find out the truth, you just wrote to your heart’s content what you had heard…from unreliable sources. You started this a year ago with your words and now you come out saying you’re writing a book on her….what’s going to be in it…things about her faults?

My agenda is to try and stop anything that looks suspicious and ruthless in touching this woman’s name again in some crappy way. Crystal’s ways won’t come again….not this way. You say that you didn’t’ trust her, but your actions seem to be going the same way as hers.

Maria I haven’t written any books yet, and as far as I can see, from what you have written, neither have you. Of course if you did write a book, you would tell us all right? I meant under another name? You stated,

“I think you also may not understand that oftentimes it is best for factual writers to save direct interviewing of the sources who are the very nearest and dearest to the subject for a later, particular part of the process, for extremely good reasons.”

I don’t know if that’s so true. I see a woman that took another woman’s name and wrote a book and didn’t even think to give proceeds or collaborate with her children about that book. She wrote the book with another person, had it published and THEN others from the Woman’s family found out…when it was too late.

Is this not the same stance? The correct thing would have been to contact this woman’s siblings and said, “I want to write a book about your mother, a honest book and I need your INPUT NOW (not after you have heard unreliable truths) to start this. If you had talked to Michael or any of the others, you would have gotten your solid foundation…then when others stated, “one son said this or that,’ you would have had the info to say, “no that’s not true.”

That is the way a writer does things. They notified the loved one’s of their intentions and then they START on their journey not the other way.

Now its been brought up that a writer has the choice to give any proceeds to other family members for work done on a deceased loved one. I do agree with that…in some situations, but not in this one. Of course this is my opinion, you can write the book and keep everything for yourself, its not up to me or anyone to stop you, but we can state our say in what ever form we want…I only ask you this…do you not think it’s a good gesture to do that?

Crystal did everything the opposite of Linda, many people say it was because she was a business woman…BS, she was greedy and her grace fell hard, she was introduced to Greg by Kathleen Mcgowan and they got rid of her quickly by calling her a looney and such, but that so called Looney is the one still holding on to dreams and books here and more to come, I find that Karma so tickling and from Crystal to Greg to you…I say shouldn’t that weak root be broken off and started again to grow stronger?

I guess its just me and my ways, to try to find the truth out for the core and then give back to those that should have been given much in the beginning, but that’s just me.

That’s my only agenda Maria Baron. I don’t need to write Linda’s bio to make a profit, there are things that she wrote about, things she kept alive from those before her that are so much precious, those are the things I would write about, not her.

Whatever the case I know I am right in my words…whether you think I am throwing spears….I prefer hammers though…I am. Anyone who really cared…they would do the same thing, and even though there are those here that think I should bury it, that its childish, there are more that think I shouldn’t and if one of those is Linda Goodman’s Child…that’s the best hammer I can throw at anyone.

Good luck with your book, I hope you find truths and not just unreliable words running backwards on the wind.

posted January 08, 2007 01:15 AM              

I would think that Rainbow, knowing my heart whether it seem harsh toward maria, still knows its just my warrior side and If real explanations came out about last years topic of Who linda was and what her children really thought...I think Rainbow would see my point of let me have my say.

Please don't bring my sister into this, she isnt here to defend what you are saying she might think. She has my phone number and she will call me if she wants to say something or write it here. I love her forever, but if she wrote the same thing that maria did last year...do you think i wouldnt' question her in the same fashion, ay I would.

lol. I laugh because this is who we are, to sit back and listen to subjects about writing books about Linda, full well knowing that others have said things that are totally not right pertaining to her "HUMAN side, thats just crackery. people say things about others to make themselves feel good, you just can't leave a dead persons other side alone, you just can't say "she was a great person," no not in this world, its got to be dirt mixed with water to sling as much mud as you can. do you think saying Linda had a temper and slammed doors in peoples faces, lied and said she wasn't there is going to do for anything?

this woman paid peoples mortgages, down payments on homes, gave money, appliances, courage, advice, long conversations of hope to people. why does one need to know these other things that were incorrect in the first place?

of I am coming at full acceleration, so many others don't. They sit and ponder, they wait to hear the "news" and "WOW" at it, and they never question a thing....never, never, never. People just wait to here the jabber, but they never question any of it.

As far as greg...may he rest in peace, if that's where he is. As I stated before, Greg was introduced to Crystal through Kathleen Mcgowan, when she questions things...they all called her a looney and other people did too, it surfaced over to hear where people would say, "that sounds like that crazy lady Kathleen that was in the other web site..." All rumors that were put upon a persons name by idiots. Now if greg was a good person why did he call a woman who introduced him to Crystal? Tell me that?

Don't get me wrong the guy was something else, when he was alive I read his work, but it didn't percieve to have anything to do with linda.

I also have read all the post Greg wrote here defending Crystal and throwing spears and hammers at others because of his loyalty to a person who shouldn't have had any loyalty string with anyone, the proof is in the words..go read them. perhaps your Greg was a different one than the one I have read here. I dont know,he's dead and he can't defend himself in this world..perhaps if we all meet again, he'll have his chance, but I bet Linda is kicking his A$$ somewhere high up there. just my opinion.

I don't deny there was ever a talk about Maria writing a biography about linda, Randall has talked about it here too, my point is...get your facts straight before you start writing to others about things you have heard, and why not just go straight to the source of those that know MORE than others, those that came from her womb.

IF anyone doesn't see the complexity of all this and how it just doesn't fit...I am just saddened.

posted January 08, 2007 01:15 AM              

I don’t really care what your background is, it seems as if you’re trying to impress us with you back ground, for what do your parents have to do with this subject? I really could care about those things respectively.

I want to know why you would release those words you stated last year about Linda attitude towards people without stating who told you those things. They are just hearsay and if you were really a good researcher you would have found the family and asked if those words were true, or you would have asked them info about there mother, instead you wrote things (that were negative a year ago) that hurt her family.

You say that not only Michael, but others of Linda’s family and friends, are well acquainted with your partner in this biography project, but why don’t they know you. Michael stated to me that he knows not you nor anyone else related to this project, nor that anyone was taking the time to write a biography on his mother, nor do his brother or sister. You have been working on this project for sometime, but you haven’t taken the time, nor has your partner to contact a major factor to the book…at least it should be a major piece. I can only wonder if once again you will “find” others to tell you quotes and misinterpretations of what “her Children said”

THIS IS THE BASIS OF IT ALL. You talked about her last year in no fashion that would show her as being “HUMAN” you basically just went off at the mouth about the bad things she did. I told Emily to find what she was looking for, being a curious soul, she ask many questions. She went to CE asking anyone what they knew of Linda and the children and you answered her in the most negative way. You basically said her children did not care about their mother when they did, you took words from peoples who obviously didn’t give a care and you twisted some of those words to make it seem as if her children were bad…now you want to write:

“Michael is a very good man. He knows more than you give him credit for.”

Well of course he’s a good man…He’s very intelligent and he agree with me 100%. He agree that you were wrong and he wonders, “why would someone that would speak that way about his mother, someone who says she loves his mouth, someone who could just look in the directory for his name, his brother, or sister…why wouldn’t that person just contact he or them for answers instead of write things she didn’t really know were true.

He also said, ‘if you’re going to write the book, no one can stop you, Crystal stole from his mother, why wouldn’t anyone else…BUT WHY MARIA….WHY haven’t you contact ME”

So I ask you, why haven’t you contacted the one person who spent more time with their mom than other siblings, why haven’t you gone to a clearly easy source of info, someone who sat and listened to his mother’s conversation, talked to her about all kinds of things, what’s up with that.

I am so happy you came here to discuss this “Hub-BUB,” because in all your writing, you haven’t stated why you responded to Emily (listen to trees) last year with those words and why you haven’t contacted her children.

My dear with all the research you have been doing, why haven’t you contacted the most important vessel for your book?

Could it be you were afraid they would freak out and try to stop you? Could it be you were afraid a piece of the profit would be taken away? I only ask these things, because if you haven’t contact her children, and I know you nor your partner have not….it just seems that you are taking the same road as Crystal Bush did, at least that’s what it seems like. Tell me if I am wrong?

You have written literally thousands of pieces, can you give me more than one piece, I would really like to see these other works you have done, please let me know if they are in the name Maria Baron, Mary Baron or some other name…though your writings have nothing to do with this subject.

Why haven’t you or your partner contacted Linda’s children for info to be included in your book?

If you are saving the direct interviewing of the sources who are the very nearest and dearest to the subject for a later, particular part of the process, for extremely good reason-I ask you this, were you going to tell them that you printed that someone told you that one son said “don’t call me until my mother is dead and another one said that she was nuts? Maria if you are as good of a writer and researcher as you have stated, I don’t see you telling these men that you wrote those things about their mother. No one in their right mind is going to just read your piece in CE and say, “oh we understand that you quoted someone else that told you we said those things, yes go ahead and write about our mother…we understand.”

This is the basis of this whole discussion. You or your partner, who ever that is, do you really think that topic would be pushed to the side. I don’t think anyone wants anyone writing a bio on their family member when that person states things that are not true about the siblings. But you know what, you can discuss that with him when you see him…IF you want to.

For anyone listening RIGHT NOW…if you really want to SEE and HEAR and UNDERSTAND anything….all you need to do is read words already said.

Now last year you wrote in response to Emily’s post on CE, she told me you responded and I went to read it. I was shocked that you would write those things and not put a single name down of who told you those things. Sure you said it was known that Michael said his mother was nuts, but the way you worded it…it just came out with the intent that he didn’t care about his mother, nor the older son pertaining to phone call about not calling him until she was dead. Now I read it and just let it go because I didn’t really care what you had to say there, if you were going to bad mouth her and her children, what are you showing people in your site? Now you state you are working on a piece pertaining to Linda, but last year you were ranting about her bad sides, her children and the way she treated people. I don’t think you said one good thing about her in that response, you just went on and on about her temper and such things, and you could have stopped and found out more reliable info on the matter before you responded to Emily. Of course this info was from people with no names, you stated that you were finally going to tell what you knew…you took your deep breath and wrote things as if there was some secret that we all didn’t know about Linda’s temper. The way you wrote it was to the affect of making one think “it didn’t matter about Linda nor her children”

Maria as far as the yearbook pictures….I don’t know what article you wrote on it, because I don’t frequent CE, so I have no idea what you are talking about…you see unlike you I do my research and it would never come from anything that you have written, because you have shown that you are inaccurate in your writings.

You wrote those things about Linda and the boys, but you didn’t even take the time to look them up in a directory and see if those things were true…but “I DID.” You have known those things for how long? You could have called Michael and asked what he meant by saying his mother was nuts, or you could have asked if his brother really stated for no one to call him until his mother passed on, you could have, but you didn’t and there has to be a reason for that, but you of course won’t tell us all what that reason is…right?

No, I didn’t get the yearbook info from anything with your name on it. I contacted one of Linda’s classmates, and we all know that person is not you, because your not that old.

Maria if you go to this link and read the topic “this dang picture” you will see that the info wasn’t from you, but from a contact who knew Linda, not from anything that you wrote ever. Through the discussion you will find LMB stating the person I spoke of that gave me the yearbook pictures grew up with Linda and worked with her…your not LMB too…are you? Then you would also be a moderator here and you didn’t state that in the beginning of your intro here.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000231-3.html

LMB stated: Thorshammer,
I know your contact; I contacted this person years ago and we are friends now. The yearbook picture is Linda, is Mary Alice Kemery. If some choose not to believe, all right, but I know the contact was a real friend and confidant of Linda's - both in high school and in her early days at the radio station.
love and light,
LMB
if you want to email me, you can at lmb@linda-goodman.com
i think that still works.

This contact is not you. I got nothing from you and I wouldn’t get anything from you because I truly think your not dependable with info.

These are the emails that I and the person Linda went to school with. They took place on April 15, 2005, I have left initial for name…I mean anyone can go on the internet and find this person if they really wanted to…no need to hide what I find. I bring great gifts (in my opinion) to my brothers and sisters, but before I bring them I make sure they are correct.

Emails between myself and “J”

Sorry to disappoint you, but I do not have much information re Linda or Sam. Sam was working as DJ at our station, and when Mary Alice started there, I introduced her to Sam. I was there only a short time afterwards and left for a job in television. I kept track of them for awhile, learned that they had both left the radio station, and were working in Pittsburgh where they later married.
I lost track then, and years later realized that she had become famous after writing "Sun Signs."
She was a lovely, intelligent lady, and a very capable employee. Glad you're keeping her memory alive.
-js-

Mr. S
Thank you very much for your response. Just Knowing that you worked with them and were apart of that wonderful work crew; for who would know that she would go on to write all those books and mention Sam also, making his name immortal in peoples minds all over the world!!!

Thank you for your kind words in response to my reply .
Actually, Kelly, I do know a little more about Linda than I told you before. I assume you're familiar with "Gooberz." On page 14, she says, "...then he would sit with me for awhile, as I ate to watch the windmill go round and round the one on top of the service station across the street." Here's a picture of that windmill service-station.
I must ask for your promise NOT to reveal to anyone where you get this information re Linda. You can post the stuff on your web-site....but do not make any mention of its origin. I do not want to get involved in what I know would be a overwhelming amount of e-mail, phone calls, etc....and I just do not want that. I assure you anything I give to you or say to you is true. May I ask if you are old enough to have seen Linda on TV, or read her books as they were published....or did you learn of her after you grew up?

Mr. See,
I wish that I had gotten that email from you earlier. I did post your first response to me on the page. But I have told the others that you do NOT want to be bothered with any kind of email what so ever, so You shouldnt get any. It’s not my web site, but a site dedicated to Linda, I am just a member on there. I would not worry, they are a quiet bunch and very interesting. I dont know if you have heard, but there is a big controversy about Lindas birthdate, she never wanted to give it out, and many people have speculated over what it is. some want to know, and others would rather that no one know for the sake of Lindas say so.

I appreciate your efforts in getting my ID out of the post. Whatever I send, it will be through you, and it can be posted if you wish, but please do not reveal where you got it. I just don't want to deal with some who would try any way possible to get information from me regarding Linda, and I don't want to be bothered to that extent. You might like this photo. It's Linda's graduation picture from her yearbook (1943.) I enlarged it some, and it's a little grainy, but this is what she looked like when she was 17. I know she was born in Morgantown, but she would just not talk about birthdays. From Gooberz, I know it was in April, but the specific date is not really known. Her birth certificate is not on file in this county.
BTW, Her father was Robert Kemery and her mother was Annette. He drove a truck route for a local bakery. Linda was an only child.
That out of body experience you had is really fascinating. I listen to George Noory's "Coast to Coast" overnight....and am always so interested the stories of people who have experiences like that.

on the site I ran into trouble, no one beleives that the picture you gave me of linda at age 17 is really her. they're all comparing recent photos, still shots and such. What I see is a young girl, in the other pictures I see a woman, not a girl. so I am not going to argue with them, for I believe that your picture is true and worthy.
You see why I hesitate to get involved in this. Doesn't matter what you post, somebody's gonna claim you're lying. Maybe this will help. As you may, or may not know, the first eight cantos of "Gooberz" is all autobiographical. She names names of friends...most of them I also knew, and real places and real happenings. Since I had a "steady" girl all through hi-school, I did not run too much with her crowd then. I came into the picture later on, in the early 50's. But, that's another story. On page 48 of "Goobers," second paragraph from the top, she names six girls who were special friends. I've sent 4 pictures, taken from the yearbook. I did not include the entire page, but each has 3 rows of 3 pictures. The first is Mary Alice herself. She turned 18 in April, 1943, and the pictures for the yearbook were taken in Feb. and March, so she was 17. The two others have pictures of two of her friends mentioned. Carolyn Fay and Mary Jean Corbitt. The fourth is the fly-leaf from the yearbook. Am sending these in two groups, so the files will not take as long to load. I don't know what else to tell you. Of course, she was a girl then, but I can see the woman she became. Not sure too many others even WANT to.

Here are the other two pictures...of Carolyn Fay and the fly-leaf from her yearbook, where these pictures came from

I feel that I put you in a spot that I should not have, but I am so happy that you gave me that ammo of love. I say Ammo of love, because I think those guys needed a dose of reality. Linda was a beautiful woman (from the pictures that we see), those pictures are of coures Public Relations, the ones on the books.
mail.yahoo.com

I thank you for those very kind words. I hope the additional pictures I sent will clarify the situation...although I doubt it. None are so blind as those who WILL NOT see. Could you do me a favor? For the first few times, that "Yahoo Photo" address you sent me, that has the pictures came up...but now it shows it as being unavailable, and the window says to check with owner of file. Is there any way you can allow me access to those pictures? I don't know why it allowed me access at first, but now won't. I can't get any other window in that site to open. In any event, could you re-send that address. I moved the other one into my "favorites" file...and maybe that had something to do with why it won't open. Thanks. –
j-

so you see, I didn’t get any info pertaining to anything you have ever wrote, though now I am curious to see what you are talking about since you haven’t posted a link for me to read like the other things you did above. And if you wrote a piece on linda and the “yearbook” did YOU put any pictures of her from the book on CE….?

Though talking to “J” I was still skeptically, I wanted the truth to be known, so I ordered the year book to make sure that those things said to me were true, the people and the contacts and I talked to some people in Morgantown who knew Linda, of course they all couldn’t’ be lying, so all that was told to me was true.

So my Maria, I got nothing from you nor did I turn any story you wrote around called it mine. The year book find was so magical and not even connected to anything, I just wrote a very nice old man and asked him what he knew of Linda and Sam and he was nice enough to send me those shots of she and her friends.

I am laughing here, because if you did write anything pertaining to a year book where were the pictures?

Now my AGENDA: My agenda is to question anyone who one year talks crap about a person I truly care about. You, if anyone knows that Linda’s words are pure, it shouldn’t matter IF she was angry at people and shot out at them…there is a reason for everything and as michael stated, she didn’t trust people, and people who said they would be there for her, people in Cripple Creek, they never came through, of course she would act a certain way toward those coming to her door.

You didn’t even try to find out the truth, you just wrote to your heart’s content what you had heard…from unreliable sources. You started this a year ago with your words and now you come out saying you’re writing a book on her….what’s going to be in it…things about her faults?

My agenda is to try and stop anything that looks suspicious and ruthless in touching this woman’s name again in some crappy way. Crystal’s ways won’t come again….not this way. You say that you didn’t’ trust her, but your actions seem to be going the same way as hers.

Maria I haven’t written any books yet, and as far as I can see, from what you have written, neither have you. Of course if you did write a book, you would tell us all right? I meant under another name? You stated,

“I think you also may not understand that oftentimes it is best for factual writers to save direct interviewing of the sources who are the very nearest and dearest to the subject for a later, particular part of the process, for extremely good reasons.”

I don’t know if that’s so true. I see a woman that took another woman’s name and wrote a book and didn’t even think to give proceeds or collaborate with her children about that book. She wrote the book with another person, had it published and THEN others from the Woman’s family found out…when it was too late.

Is this not the same stance? The correct thing would have been to contact this woman’s siblings and said, “I want to write a book about your mother, a honest book and I need your INPUT NOW (not after you have heard unreliable truths) to start this. If you had talked to Michael or any of the others, you would have gotten your solid foundation…then when others stated, “one son said this or that,’ you would have had the info to say, “no that’s not true.”

That is the way a writer does things. They notified the loved one’s of their intentions and then they START on their journey not the other way.

Now its been brought up that a writer has the choice to give any proceeds to other family members for work done on a deceased loved one. I do agree with that…in some situations, but not in this one. Of course this is my opinion, you can write the book and keep everything for yourself, its not up to me or anyone to stop you, but we can state our say in what ever form we want…I only ask you this…do you not think it’s a good gesture to do that?

Crystal did everything the opposite of Linda, many people say it was because she was a business woman…BS, she was greedy and her grace fell hard, she was introduced to Greg by Kathleen Mcgowan and they got rid of her quickly by calling her a looney and such, but that so called Looney is the one still holding on to dreams and books here and more to come, I find that Karma so tickling and from Crystal to Greg to you…I say shouldn’t that weak root be broken off and started again to grow stronger?

I guess its just me and my ways, to try to find the truth out for the core and then give back to those that should have been given much in the beginning, but that’s just me.

That’s my only agenda Maria Baron. I don’t need to write Linda’s bio to make a profit, there are things that she wrote about, things she kept alive from those before her that are so much precious, those are the things I would write about, not her.

Whatever the case I know I am right in my words…whether you think I am throwing spears….I prefer hammers though…I am. Anyone who really cared…they would do the same thing, and even though there are those here that think I should bury it, that its childish, there are more that think I shouldn’t and if one of those is Linda Goodman’s Child…that’s the best hammer I can throw at anyone.

Good luck with your book, I hope you find truths and not just unreliable words running backwards on the wind.

posted January 09, 2007 11:31 AM              

I don't care what you or anyone things, no offense intended, I am just doing what no one else would do. many people sit and say "let it be and shut up"...Whatever!

This is a important issue, unlike some of the other crap talked about on here, if you think I am a angry boy, then you don't need to read my post, it matters not to me.

If your post had any intention of teaching me anything, why don't you respond to the whole scenario talked about here and not my temper.

always, always there are those that will respond to the action, but not the issue at hand.

Tis matter not, when the proof is at hand, no matter which way its brought out, there are always those that will ignore the issue and complain about other things.

I don't need to look for a fight, there was one already there, I just jumped in. once again, the issue is this, Maria ranted and flamed a year ago that Linda's children didn't care about her, information that was totally incorrect. Not one person on that site challenged her ( I say Challenge, not FIGHT), they all just took it to be true information. "Listen to trees" was the only person to ask, "is this info correct." The subject even shifted to the notion that Sally was pregnant...cmon! This is the issue Gemini Nymph, if you think i am a angry person and looking for a fight, you're wrong, I am a person who's trying to get the adverage person to open up their eyes and see what the heck is going on, that you can't or shouldn't be writing a book when your talking crap about a person's famiy.

If I hadn't said one word about this and Maria had contacted Michael, do you really think he wouldn't have responded the same waY I have on here...of course you won't answer that question, like everyone on here, when Michael's name comes up, you all hush hush and don't say one word. Trillian even said, "how do I know you really talked to Michael?" I think thats the most Absurb thing I have ever heard! Yes I get on here and I feel so sorry for myself that I need to make up things, I need to disperately lie and say I talked to Linda's son to get attention...wrong.

It is anger Gemini, Is that part of a fire sign that does not sit still when injustices are being done and they are. Hell the internet is a great hobby, because if we didn't have the Internet some jerk (jerk as in people of the past, not Maria) would be stealing Linda's work once again, at least here, info can be passed on and action taken, it can be recorded for all to see, does that bother you?

Its so funny, in here things don't get edited and erased, unless they are harmful to others being. There is nothing here that is harmful to Maria nor anyone else. what is here are the facts:

Things were said about Linda's famiy. I care about Linda's family, a horrible deed was done to them and anyone that believes that Linda really signed her name over to Crystal with the intent of passing on the "TORCH," man...if you really believe that, you got to get some real help.

Linda helped out her children every chance she could get, why would someone who is looking out for their children, give the most important thing away that can help them indefinately. Linda's children, moved her from CC to CS to be closer to doctors help...that does not sound like children who don't care about their mother, nor does that sound like a mother who would just leave her children blank without her legacy.

When I first talked to Michael, one of the first things he did was check the Numerology for the day we were talking, it was a Nine day and he said, "oh my word...thats my mothers number, my mother is here!" Now that doesn't sound like someone that wasn't interested in carrying on the work of his mom. WAKE UP people, the truth is right in front of your face.

The only anger being applied here is JUSTICE. What would Maria had done IF she ended up contacting Michael, his brother or sister; what would she have said about her reply to Listen with trees?

YOU CAN'T, YOU SHOULDN'T SAY HORRIBLE THINGS ABOUT A WOMAN'S CHILDREN WHEN YOU HADN'T EVEN FOUND OUT IF THOSE THINGS WERE CORRECT, CASED CLOSED!

If you can't see that, I just feel so sorry for you.

I think the sickest things is, if Crystal Bush came on Linda Land, and who knows if she really isn't here. If she got on here and talked, there would be a majority that wouldn't even ask her about Linda signing over her name to her, why she didn't work with the children, where she has been...there would be responses of, "Namaste Crystal, so good to hear from you finally," no one would take the time nor courage to find out...well I would, but I am just a Angry boy looking for a fight.

I can't wait for Michael to get on here, to do what he was suppose to do so long ago, and when he responds the EXACT same way that I have, when he ask why people on here are talking about SEX, and GENITAL parts, DRUGS and JINXES on people to make them sick, he's goingl to ask, "WHY ARE YOU REALLY ON A SITE DEDICATED TO MY MOTHER, WHEN THOSE SUBJECTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HER AND WHY ISN'T ANYONE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!"

Now when he comes Gemini Nymph, what will you and the others do? I know what you'll do, you won't tell him he's a angery person who is venting urine and vinegar, you won't tell him hes looking for a fight...all you will do is be silent...thats what many on here do, no spark to their souls.

I think the more I type and talk, the more you and others fear it and for YOUR OWN SAKE I will never stop.

posted January 11, 2007 09:40 PM              

Thank you, as always, for your incomparable heart and keen mind. {{{{{{}}}}}}

Thank you, also, to all thoughtful knowflakes.

...

Now, to Mr. Randy See, who prefers his hammer...

You asked me in your response to tell you if you were wrong. Yes sir, you are wrong about item after item after item, ad infinitum.

Among your nearly unanimous inaccuracies are your completely unanimous inaccuracies about who said and did what. You have attributed the wrong instances to the wrong people in all of your (perhaps deliberate) attempts to misinterpret and assign names to the events I described on the thread at http://consciousevolution.com that you identify as the basis of it all.

I stand by the truth of each of the events as *I* originally described them, and I deny any truth to your misinterpretations of them. Each of these events was directly witnessed and participated in by my partner in the project. Who she is would not be hard to figure out. They weigh upon her heart, as she cares for everyone involved. On the other hand, she has had many years of experience in many family situations, including her own. She understands. And family pathos are really quite beautiful, as Lialei suggests in speaking about humanity in general. Certainly some of the most beautiful and moving understandings I carry about my own wonderful family come out of such difficulties. It's that paradox: why glad rhymes with sad.

You sell the beauty of human interaction short when you label those revelations as "negative." Remember, I did not write them for you. I wrote them for Listens to Trees, and I believed she would understand and still believe so.

However, George Harrison, whom I greatly admire for his compassionate search, used to say that sometimes in some contexts it is better to say nothing because people certainly and absolutely can be offended by the truth. And I am truly sorry that I have offended.

Isn't it funny how in one of the emails that you posted an excerpt of, someone told you that no matter what you post, someone will say you're lying? I guess, in terms of my own experience, that makes you "someone." Congratulations.

Listens to Trees was so sincere in asking a question that had been asked and left unanswered many, many times, that I felt moved to reveal some of what I know to be true, and it is not hearsay.

I will not get into more of this with you, Randy See. You are not Michael. I have been in communication with Michael, and my partner in this project has been in communication with Michael many times.

You remind me of one of Paul's songs for the Beatles, a song that George described as one that people would either immediately love or immediately hate. I always thought it was pretty twisted, but some of the rhymes are delightful in their own ways. And when Paul described the subject of the song as someone who just keeps on hammering regardless, heh... Now I think I get it.

So your hammering continues, and I find myself embarassed for you and feeling sorry for the people who've been subjected to your thread screaming in caps across every forum. I'll ask them to forgive me now, for replying to each of your posts, and then I'll Let It Be.

Maria

Maxwell's Silver Hammer
by Paul McCartney

Joan was quizzical;
Studied metaphysical
Science in the home,
Late nights all alone with a test tube, oh-oh-oh-oh.

Maxwell Edison,
Majoring in medicine,
Calls her on the phone,
"Can I take you out to the pictures, Jo-oa-oa-oan?"

But as she's getting ready to go,
A knock comes on the door,
Bang-bang! Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon her head,
Bang-Bang! Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead.

Back in school again,
Maxwell plays the fool again,
Teacher gets annoyed,
Wishing to avoid and unpleasant sce-e-e-ene,

She tells Max to stay
When the class has gone away,
So he waits behind
Writing 50 times "I must not be so-oh-oh-oh."

But when she turns her back on the boy,
He creeps up from behind,
Bang-bang! Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon her head,
Bang-bang! Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead.

P.C. Thirty-one
Said, "We got a dirty one."
Maxwell stands alone
Painting testimonial pictures, oh-oh-oh-oh.

Rose and Valerie,
Screaming from the gallery,
Say he must go free (Maxwell must go free),
The judge does not agree and he tells them so-oh-oh-oh.

But as the words are leaving his lips,
A noise comes from behind,
Bang-bang! Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon his head,
Bang-bang! Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that he was dead.

Whoa-oh-oh...
Silver hammer...
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posted January 13, 2007 12:11 PM            

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I can't wait for Michael to get on here, to do what he was suppose to do so long ago, and when he responds the EXACT same way that I have, when he ask why people on here are talking about SEX, and GENITAL parts, DRUGS and JINXES on people to make them sick, he's goingl to ask, "WHY ARE YOU REALLY ON A SITE DEDICATED TO MY MOTHER, WHEN THOSE SUBJECTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HER AND WHY ISN'T ANYONE DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!"

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I have felt this for a long time, it seems that topics such as "how hot are you", "how sexy are you", "oral sex" get so many responses. This is why I rarely go to FFA; the energy there is just too agitating for me. I wonder if people really believe those "blogthings"?

However, the site FFA does say "talk about anything you like"......and it is Randall's website and his prerogative what he chooses to censor, if anything.

So for everyone who's birthday's I haven't acknowledged, it is because I rarely go to FFA.

Maybe we could do birthdays on another forum?

I didn't even know about Rainbow's illness until I saw it on Health and Healing. Since this was during a school semester, I replied there if someone could give me an update as to how Rainbow is, because when I clicked to the link to FFA there were 6-7 + pages which I didn't have time to go through, since I was so busy with school. No one responded to me at Health & Healing.

posted January 13, 2007 12:31 PM              

Juniperb updated, her condition..in Free for ALL under Mary Summer Rain...one of the last posts in that string...