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Topic: Quincunxes in Synastry
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Vintry
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posted December 19, 2006 06:03 PM
  
What to do with all these quincunxes?In synastry, can I even feel their effect?
I don't understand how they work I have the following quincunxes in a chart with a guy:
Sun/Mercury - double
Uranus/Sun
Moon/Saturn
Venus/Moon
Neptune/Mercury
Pluto/Mercury
Chiron/Uranus I am trying to pay more attention to aspects like squares, oppositions, conjunctions, trines and sextiles but I use Astro.com charts and all these bquintiles, sesquiquadrates, quincunxes, semisextiles, semisquares are just obscuring the view, to be honest. Is it wrong for me to most of the time ignore them? Do they show in a relationship? What do you think?
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pseudofemme
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posted December 19, 2006 06:12 PM
Personally, I don't usually pay attention to the minor aspects except when looking at hard aspects made to a midpoint (in which case, I'll look at semi-squares). The only time the minor aspects seem to have much influence is if they are in very tight orb--say, under a half a degree--and even then, wider-orbed major aspects still tend to be more powerful.I'd pay more attention to a quincunx if a particular planet was otherwise unaspected. But if there are trines, squares, etc., definitely look at those first, and give them more consideration than minor aspects. IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted December 19, 2006 07:29 PM
IMO quincunxes should be considered "major" minor aspects in most cases. Give them an orb of 3 degrees, but be mindful not to discount an quincunx within 6 degree if with a lumaries, chart ruler, or a planet otherwise particualrly prominent in the chart. Quincunxes that are very tight, even if with minor asteriods or with a body and an angle/point, can often be meaningful.How to interpret a quincunx is tricky. To me, they almost have an Uranian type of vibe - paradxucal, erratic, edgy, reactive. It seems the old adage of them being "between a trine and opposition" is fairly accurate, aftter I spent months nay-saying that. LOL. They can be flip-floppy aspects - they can be hard or harmonious, or a little of both. What matters is context. One thing to look at is what else is aspects the planetin the quincunx. One thing I've been observing is that quincunx aren't so good at handling tension from afflicted planets. The quincunx turns into a weak point in the chart, where the person has trouble getting a handle or confronting the problem. For example, if you have a quincunx between Venus and Chiron, and Venus is afflicted by a square with mars, the stress of that Mars-Venus square feeds into the quincunx with Chiron, and creates a vulnerable spot there. However, if there are no significant afflictions with either planet, the quincunx may serve like a kind of Uranian-like "buzz" that helps motivate and energize, and may bring about some unexpected revelations. IP: Logged |
Amelia
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posted December 20, 2006 01:54 AM
Personally, I take in account 'quincunxes' when analyzing someones' natal chart and/ or synastry interaspects between two individuals. I do this all within a 3 degree orb and to some I have read that this aspect may (or may not) have a 'karmic' meaning; difficulty combining the two energies together at the same time and I think it was on this forum where I read the quincunx aspect as having a sort of 'slave-master' dynamic to it (i.e.: one planet always overpowers the other).------------------
'Virgo Ascendant, Libra Moon, Aries Sun' "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense". - Buddha IP: Logged |
Rev. Alice
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posted December 20, 2006 10:16 AM
A "tight" qunicunx can be stronger than a so-called major aspect with 5 or more degrees spread.Two planets in quincunx won't work together, without effort. The key is to find the commonality between the signs involved.
Here are some ideas from my book
"Dynamics of Astrology"
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Common Interests of Quincunxes Aries-Scorpio both deal in energy/power.
Aries-Virgo is pure potential:
Aries being newly emerged is uncontaminated; Virgo is purified through the realization that s/he is nothing but what she was born to be.
Taurus-Sagittarius is natural.
Taurus-Libra is love.
Gemini-Capricorn is definition/names.
Gemini-Libra is relationship.
Cancer-Sagittarius is understanding.
Cancer-Aquarius is changes (internal or external).
Leo-Capricorn is presence.
Leo-Pisces is unreality.
Virgo-Aquarius reminds us that to experience--to be conscious of--is to know.
Libra-Pisces: Libra is union with one, Pisces is unity with all.
Scorpio-Gemini is magic-the magic of knowing the name.
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You are a blessing and you are blessed.
Rev. Alice www.lifeprintastrology.com
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Bucketrider
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posted December 20, 2006 06:04 PM
Great thread!
I have long puzzled over quincunx meanings and though there are some good ones out there, it is an important aspect that is overlooked too often and can be central to understanding a given chart.Here are a few relationships I came up with: cancer-aquarius-saggatarius: local group/community involvement pisces-libra-leo: love in various forms taurus-cancer-sag: indulgence gemini-capricon-scorpio: resourcefulness
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cristiname
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posted December 21, 2006 08:19 AM
Rev. Alicewhat do you mean by Common Interests - "Leo-Capricorn is presence." or by "Gemini-Capricorn is definition/names" ??
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Rev. Alice
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posted December 21, 2006 11:05 AM
"common intersts" between quincunx signs are places where they can meet each other and "communicate."Think of this like meeting new people. It is easier to talk to a new acquaintence if you can find something that the two have in common. That could be job related, or like being the oldest/middle/youngest child, or similar religious beliefs, or having gone to the same college, or . . . See? ------------------
You are a blessing and you are blessed.
Rev. Alice
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cristiname
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posted December 21, 2006 05:16 PM
i understand 'common interests'  i don't understand what those may be when related to 'presence' or 'definition/names'. what does 'presence' mean as 'interest'? IP: Logged |
Rev. Alice
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posted December 22, 2006 12:04 PM
Interested in Presence: Interested in how you present yourself, in your reputation and how you are regarded by the world.Definition/names refers to what you are called and how that defines you. IP: Logged |
Vintry
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posted December 22, 2006 12:49 PM
Thank you guys!but how about that double sun to mercury quincunx? maybe because it's double it will play out in the relationship? all others - I am going to continue ignoring them. It looks like not many people here back them anyways.. IP: Logged |
cristiname
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posted December 22, 2006 05:17 PM
wow, thx! Rev Alice, that's fascinating!it makes sense to me, as I am the capricorn and many of my friends are leo and gemini. cool! thank you.
i'll think about this and pay attention from now on... IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted May 05, 2011 12:19 AM
Bumping because it helped me after I googled this. An oldie but a goodie!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted June 11, 2011 08:12 PM
interesting threadIP: Logged |
virgogirl
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posted July 05, 2012 11:15 AM
Hi. I have chiron quincunx pluto in synastry. Me being pluto @ 0.28 orb. Pretty tight. What does it mean for us? Both are about healing...but who heals who here. Please can someone help with that. Thanks a lot!IP: Logged |
bambam
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posted July 12, 2012 04:01 AM
Does anyone have anything to say about quincunxes in composite charts?IP: Logged |
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