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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted December 23, 2006 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im sorry but i was wondering if you guys can tell me anything about the potential of this persong (not me) to be famous and in general their career potential/success?

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posted December 23, 2006 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if its anyone its going to be this person. Tau moon in the 10th indicates a singing abilty and public one at that. A 10th house moon esp tau is very prominent amongst singers.

Also sun in 11th house in gem - a personality in the community but a person who can change a lot in terms of their appearanc and image. Think of someone like Kylie Minogue. Plus things like ura and nep in the 6th both shocking, yet msyterious.

Also emphasis on 12th house with planets - self-absorbed. This too is very common with public artists and presidents.

Leo asc also give them an ability to perform or entertain and they are very good and lucky at it so to speak with Jup (which is ruler of the 5th house) conj asc. Hopefully they don't have weight issues as well. Aries MC might indicate a desire to be no. 1 with ruler conj with asc as well, again linked in with performing

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posted December 23, 2006 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow this person does sing. Thank you so much.

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posted December 23, 2006 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are they famous or is it someone you know who wants to be famous?

Its a very good chart for fame or at least a talent for performing publicly.

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posted December 23, 2006 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just a friend

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wilsontc
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posted December 23, 2006 12:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dioscuri,

Capricorn (duty, also career) modifying Neptune (spirituality, also artistry) focused in the 6th house (daily work) can also indicate an artistic career of some type. This artistry connecting into the "singing" Moon 23 described.

Artistically,

Tim

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posted December 23, 2006 01:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won't say "Yes, she'll be famous one day" but there's are certain indicators she WANTS to be famous, and why.

10th house moon indicates an emotional need to be famous, and with it opposing a4th house Pluto, it's likely to be for reason of deeper psychological significance, relating to her childhood, home life or relationship with her mother. There are likely issues of personal power, money and security involved. This may give her a lot of motivation to strive for public recognition, but there's down side to this as well. She may end up trying to substitute fame, money and success for more intimate, personal needs, like having a good relationship with her mother, a stable, nuturing home life, and personal security.

Tau moon in hard aspect Pluto also indicates a potential for addiction based on unfulfilled emotional needs and/or deeper psychological problems, including past abuse.

It would be sound advice for your friend to do some soul-searching as to what is really motivating her, so she does not fall victim to the many problems that famous people sometimes do to compensate for unfilfulled emoitonal and psycholgical needs, such as gross materialism or addiction.


That aside, her Gem Sun in 11th should make it easy for her to win allies and attract people to her who can help her get ahead. However, with her Pluto aspecting, there's the potential of her being very shallow in this relationships, using them only to get power for herself. She may resort to using people for her own needs and then discard them with they are no longer of use to her, as a 11th house Sun can easily remain emotionally detached. Since Pluto is inconjunct, and not in a more "obvious" aspect like a square or opposition, she pattern of using people may be hard to notice at first, and that could allow her to "sucker" people for a long time before they get wise. She herself may have a hard time seeing her own pattern of behavior, or may too easily rationalize it. If she was abused in the past (Pluto in th 4th may indicate childhood abuse, including sexual abuse), she may think cynically that she has the right to treat people this way in return for how someone else once treated her.

Jupiter aspecting ASC is extremely lucky and is often found is people who find success and fame through luck and chance. This will also help she is her public image, but may also incline her to be over-confident with her good fortune. With Uranus inconjunct, this luck may come from a very unusual source, or through a very unlikely meeting.

Mars conjunct Jupiter in a prominent placement (on ASC in this case) is what I call a "bully" placement. This indicates someone who'll stomp on others to get what they want, if that's what it takes. It's a very narcissistic aspect - Jupiter expands Mars' energies, inflating the person's ego and aggression. Saturn opposing may keep this in check, but ONLY if she had positive, nuturing experiences in her childhood. Jupiter energies need to learn how to be "humble," and it's best that children with strong Jupiter energies learn this lesson for benevolent adults starting at a young age. SO too with Mars, although such Mars lessons are more of a concern with pubescent children and teens while Jupiter lessons are important from early childhood until young adulthood.

So if she was fortunate to have a nuturing childhood, her Saturn energies will feel more like a guiding hand than an oppressive force holding her back. But if she had a neglectful or abusive father or other similar negative experiences as a young child, her Jupiter energies may be rebelling against her Saturn energies - a pattern of behavior that may be hard to break. Similarly so with her Mars energies, if she dd not learn her needed Mars lessons after puberty.

One last thing: her 7th house is empty. This means she needs to be mindful of the kind of people she attracts. She can easily attract friends as well as enemies. With a overly detached, "worldly" 11th house Sun, it may be hard for her to see who's a friend and who's an enemy. She needs to form strong, healthy friendships with wise individuals who can look out for her from time to time and give her sound advice. This may be uncomfortable for her, with am independant-minded 11th Sun and her Jupiter-Mars on the ASC. But she would be a lot better off if she can learn to heed to wise counsel of a good friend.

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posted December 23, 2006 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG guys thank you all soooo very very very very much! My friend can definately be a bit narcissistic. So true, but other than that the childhood was nice so i dont think that could be issues. Thats really cool, i dont really know if my friend's #1 goal is to be famous but its one of the things on the list id say. Still pretty young - in their teens so no huge worries about that stuff just yet. Thank you all so very very much 23, Tim and Gemini Nymph

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