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lovegoblin
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posted January 06, 2007 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
any experiences of any knowflakes are welcome. if you are the venus, do you ever grow annoyed with saturn? fell like saturn is no fun? what is saturns problem? what on earth?

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libraschoice7
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posted January 06, 2007 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This aspect always manages to dampen any attraction going on with someone. Lets just say it stomps out any flame that wants to ignite, no matter what other great aspects or placements are present in the synastry chart, at least in my personal experience.
Keep in mind that I also don't have alot of strong Saturn in my natal, hence not being able to relate or deal with it in synastry.


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Azalaksh
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posted January 06, 2007 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lc7 ~

I'm surprised that a Libran would use the words "always" and "no matter what"

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thedividedsky
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posted January 06, 2007 08:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i hope this aspect could be worked out....i'm sure it could.....????

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Azalaksh
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posted January 06, 2007 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Linda Goodman’s “Relationship Signs” ~
quote:
Venus Opposed or Square Saturn

Saturn has many lessons to teach Venus, and Venus won’t be anxious to learn them. It will occasionally be a struggle, but it’s your karmic destiny (every Saturn aspect is), so you may as well make the best of it. Venus will endure some unhappy experiences in this relationship, especially when Saturn blames Venus for problems they encounter together. This is decidedly unfair. But there’s nothing fair about karmic lessons unless you happen to know the primordial cause of them, which requires total recall of many “yesterdays”. If you’re able to remember the original reincarnational misbehavior that started it all, the balancing of the karmic scales is easier to bear. Should you be fortunate enough to posess this rare gift of total recall of one or more past lives, I congratulate you. Should you not posess it, I sympathize with you.

Check this long string of adjectives. No use avoiding them! Saturn may not always, but periodically behave toward Venus in a disciplinary, limiting, selfish, condemning, resentful, critical and disapproving manner. Quite naturally, it’s difficult at such times for Venus to give affection to Saturn, except when it’s inspired by anxiety or fear. Venus could feel frustrated and dominated, or just plain unhappy. It should make the burden lighter if we remind Venus that Saturn’s sometimes admittedly harsh lessons are rooted in Saturn’s unexpressed but very real concern and caring, an urge to guide a “lost soul” protectively. Believe it or not, this is the way Saturn demonstrates genuine love – in a sort of parent/child pattern. And so, Venus, tell yourself that you are loved beneath the occasional cold front of Saturn’s personality. Does that comfort you? It doesn’t? Well, then try to recall what you did eons ago to Saturn to deserve this karma. Because you did do something, or it wouldn’t be happening. The plus side is that Saturn will probably never leave you but will hang around to provide you with a large measure of stability and emotional security. And this you very much need, right? Right. You agree. That’s good. Let’s quit while we’re ahead.


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Gemini Nymph
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posted January 06, 2007 09:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Linda.

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Amelia
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posted January 06, 2007 10:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't believe in 'doom aspects'; if you believe all along that "you" (just being general) will hate each other...it is not because of the aspect that you will hate each other; instead it is because "you" made it into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I have this aspect with one of my close friends...I have known her since middle school (about 9 years)...I certainly don't hate her and the last time I checked, she certainly doesn't hate me (I'm Saturn and she's Venus).

I also, have this aspect with a guy I ummm let's say...I really like, heh. Again, I'm Saturn and he is Venus. Saturn (and Cappy) are very prominent in my chart. So, personally for me it is quite simple and natural to take on the more 'parental' role in any of my relationships... It also helps if the Saturn aspect is reciprocated (so that one person in the relationship doesn't always feel like the 'disciplinary' figure). Example, my saturn is square his venus and in turn, his saturn is trine my sun.

John Lennon had the square aspect with Yoko Ono (Venus square Saturn). Simply put, I choose to believe that, 'love conquers all'. All in all, I have had 'wonderful synastry' with people and in the end; it just did not work out (even without the 'hard' saturn aspects).

I just think it depends on the person...and each individuals natal chart. Some, people may act more 'negatively' to this aspect than others (may find it to be more restrictive). As for me, it just doesn't do much... Keep in mind that, in both cases I have been the 'saturn' individual; so I really don't know how it would be for me the other way around.

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BlueEyes24
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posted January 06, 2007 11:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't believe in doom aspects either. My Saturn squares my boyfriend Venus and it hasn't been a problem in the year and a half we've been together.. But my Venus is also conjunct his ASC, and he has a lot of natal Saturn aspects, so he's used to Saturn energy. (P.S. this is the only Square we have in our synastry besides Sun square uranus, so maybe that's why it's not a problem....I dunnoooo! HIS Saturn is conjunct My moon too, which is supposed to be a "wet blanket" aspect but I don't feel like he represses my emotions at all.)

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Dulce Luna
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posted January 06, 2007 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the opposition both ways with my father and its never been a picnic....were not really that close.

However, I won't dismiss it as doomed. Sometimes it serves as a longevity factor in relationships. I heard it was a very karmic aspect anyways.

Oh and I have the square with my sister (I'm saturn).

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Amelia
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posted January 06, 2007 11:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm, it just depends. I feel foolish, hah...I just remembered my fathers' saturn squares my venus; not a lot of emotional affinity there...but, a lot of other factors come into 'play' here though.

Like in the two examples above that I mentioned; I forgot to mention that in turn not only are their venuses' square my saturn but in turn both of their venuses' also square (and contra-parallel) my uranus as well (my saturn and uranus are closely conjunct in my natal chart); so maybe with learning 'the art of balance' uranus can 'liven' up mundane saturn.

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Belage
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posted January 07, 2007 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"It should make the burden lighter if we remind Venus that Saturn’s sometimes admittedly harsh lessons are rooted in Saturn’s unexpressed but very real concern and caring, an urge to guide a “lost soul” protectively. Believe it or not, this is the way Saturn demonstrates genuine love – in a sort of parent/child pattern. And so, Venus, tell yourself that you are loved beneath the occasional cold front of Saturn’s personality. Does that comfort you? It doesn’t? Well, then try to recall what you did eons ago to Saturn to deserve this karma. Because you did do something, or it wouldn’t be happening. The plus side is that Saturn will probably never leave you but will hang around to provide you with a large measure of stability and emotional security. And this you very much need, right? Right. You agree. That’s good. Let’s quit while we’re ahead."

This is AWESOME!!! I would usually run away from a Saturn Venus conflicting aspect, but this interpretation makes me pause and think. Wow!!! Very deep.

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LILYGIRL
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posted January 13, 2007 09:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd rather have heavy saturn contacts in a long term relationship then few or none or even all easy ones....you especially better not run away from Saturn because those are the relationships which tend to be quite short and fizzle out ---good or bad. Don't most married couple have multiple saturn contacts hard and soft? I do think SATURN curbs everything!!!! NOW. I have saturn trine venus in my natal and even that contact tends to obliterate my uranus square venus. It makes me very conservatove in my romantic and sexual behavior. (My Gem Sun and Sag ascendant can cheerily flirt till the cow comes home..but when she does...she's sleeping in her own bed with her own husband...)

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themysteryclub
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posted January 13, 2007 03:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My boyfriend have this aspect going both ways!! We love eachother very much..never resentful of one another. We are both very concious of ourselves, and we like to talk a lot about how we are dealing with things. Sexually there is an incredible about of passion...the intense saturn contacts are probably the only saving grace that allows us to restrain ourselves We definently have a lot of growing and learning to go through with one another as we are both at difficult transitional periods in our life. But we have also committed to one another..I thank the saturn contact for its binding effect--we both have strong gemini and sagittarian influences.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted January 13, 2007 03:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i had forgotten about this: My psycho Gem-Aries that threaten to kill had his Saturn tightly squared my Venus.

We had another "red flag" aspect too, but forget what it is.

We definitely were hating each other at the end of it. LOL.

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jenfullmoon
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posted January 15, 2007 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I have it natally, so that's going to be involved in any relationship I have, no matter where his Saturn and Venus is. *sigh*

That said, I think my ex with Saturn conjunct my sun was probably more oppressive.

I'm born feeling-inhibited, so adding to the V/S probably doesn't make any difference.

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