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Zingi
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posted January 06, 2007 11:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 06, 2007 10:07 AM
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Well, mysticaldream, there's no link. I wrote that info from a book in romanian. Write your Lilith's position and aspects and I'll translate and post it here.
Green Fairy, in this book the author doesn't mention which Lilith, but I think it's Dark Moon Lilith (the one in the additional objects in astro.com). This author provided some ephemerides for Lilith in another book and it's the same I calculated in the additional objects from astro.com. I can translate some of it, but I'd rather not promise anything (I'm going back to college soon so...).

I hope you will have time to ansew this thank you in advance. Would love to know the nmae of the book even if it is in Romainian. I have a Romaninan friend who could help me out.

23 pisces 22'26" 4th house
trines mercury & neptune
conjunct chiron and saturn
opp uranus and pluto


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27 capricorn 46'18"
1st house
squares sun and uranus

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izodesmozina
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posted January 07, 2007 04:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Zingi! The book is called "Karmic astrology" ("Astrologia karmica" in romanian) and it's written by Alexandru Nicolici.
Here goes the translation:

~Lilith in Pisces: It is indicative of a secret sensuality, a double life, adultery and an unconscious erotism. You might feel devitalized because of the unincarnated beings that take advantaje of your psychic powers. You have the tendency to sacrifice yourself in vain in love matters and to suffer a painful destiny because you lack a strong will.
~Lilith in 4th house: You have a tendency to be dominating and agressive or suffer from these actions (probably the second, because it's in Pisces). Your erotic life is under the influence of your parents' teachings. If the role model you had when growing up is a negative one, you might destroy your love life (I have a feeling that is not the case and hope I'm right).
~Lilith in hard aspect with Saturn (both males and females): You have an unconscious tendency for isolation and self-destruction, depression, crisis and frustration. You might have joint and digestive conditions. (I have this too, it fits 100%... including the joint and digestive problems)
~Lilith in hard aspect with Uranus (both): You have a wrong sense of timing and you may react in an exagerated way to emotions. You could be impulsive, fickle and react agressively at times.
~Lilith in hard aspect with Pluto (both): This aspect generates a tendency to lie, dissimulate and cheat. You may lack guilt feelings and have sadistic, distructive and self-destructive urges. (I have this also... and I can be like this, but I choose not to. The author emphasized the idea that these tendencies are mostly unconscious, but if you become aware of them, they can be overcomed).
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Unfortunately, he didn't describe Chiron aspects. The author only took into consideration the hard aspects (conjunction, square and opposition), he said soft aspects have a minor influence.
I'm posting this info in this post because I don't want to lose it all (it happened before, so...). I'll write the rest in another one.

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izodesmozina
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posted January 07, 2007 04:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~Lilith in Capricorn: It is indicative of a late or even repressed sexuality. Your upbringing might make you censor your sexuality and you might be unable to love and show your feelings. You probably face a painflu conflict between instinct, desire and the rigid principles that have been passed on to you. You tend to repress your feelings and that can lead to solitude. There is also a posibility for fear of sexuality and a sentimental blocking. The sense of duty is emphasized and you will always be attentive and careful to provide for your family, but you're unable to show your love to them.
~Lilith in the first house: You have a strong personality, but often solitary. Sexuality is very important and you tend to appreciate all your relationships on this ground. Frequent crisis generated by deceptions and unfulfilled sexuality. You might have strong subtle perceptions because you have a very sensitive body.
~Lilith in hard aspect with the Sun (both males and females): You might reject your father and anything that has something to do with him. You can be imature and unable to face emotional and sentimental difficulties. You lack spontaneity and you tend to plan your sexual relationships. (males): You probably have a bad relationship with your father. You might be tempted to cheat on your friends and steal their girlfriends and you are strongly attracted to misterious, fatal and seductive women. You enjoy luxury and have a tendency for perversion, but these can ruin you.
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I already translated the hard aspect with Uranus, so I think this is it. Again, take this with a grain of salt. It is pretty exagerated in my opinion.
I hope this helps somehow. Take care!

Izo

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GeminiLover75
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posted January 07, 2007 04:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooh! I'm interested in mine.

My Lilith is 8 degrees Pisces, 4th house.
Conjunct Vesta, Mars and Pholus.
Trine moon and Saturn
Square Neptune
Semisextile (?) Jupiter

My bf's is 1 degree Libra, 5th house
Conjunct Pluto
Trine Venus, Saturn and MC
Sextile Neptune

Thank you!

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izodesmozina
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posted January 07, 2007 07:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~Lilith in Pisces: It is indicative of a secret sensuality, a double life, adultery and an unconscious erotism. You might feel devitalized because of the unincarnated beings that take advantaje of your psychic powers. You have the tendency to sacrifice yourself in vain in love matters and to suffer a painful destiny because you lack a strong will.
~Lilith in 4th house: You have a tendency to be dominating and agressive or suffer from these actions (probably the second, because it's in a feminine sign). Your erotic life is under the influence of your parents' teachings. If the role model you had when growing up is a negative one, you might destroy your love life.
~Lilith hard aspect with Mars:
*females: Hostility towards men and a tendency to hurt them.
*males: The unconscious rejection of your manhood, impotence and sexual blockage.
*both: Thyroid disfunctionalities and a weak will. You are prone to accidents.
~Lilith in hard aspect with Neptune (both): Emphasized imagination that can go from delirium, unclear thinking, confusion to schizophrenia. Drug abuse, imorality and a disorganized existence.

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izodesmozina
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posted January 07, 2007 07:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~Lilith in Libra: You have the tendency to transform your erotism in artistical expression and you might create some kind of erotic art. You are an individualist and you express your feelings with refinement. You might share poetic, artistic and aesthetic manifestations.

(sorry, gtg, will be back to edit it)

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~Lilith in the 5th house: Unusual tastes in love matters. Your erotic instinct could be excessive and you might be selfish in your relationships by neglecting your partner's desires. This can lead to health problems (sexual disfunctionalities, impotence, frigidity) and misunderstandings in your family life.
~Lilith in hard aspect with Pluto (both): This aspect generates a tendency to lie, dissimulate and cheat. You may lack guilt feelings and have sadistic, distructive and self-destructive urges.

Does it fit?

Izo

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Venus De Milo
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posted January 07, 2007 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi izodesmozina!

I've been reading your posts about Lillith and I'm a little baffled by my placement. I have Lillith at 11 Leo in the 11th house. It makes no strong aspects to any planet, it's distantly conjunct my Jupiter at 3 Leo... and then 28 degrees away from Saturn (I believe this is a semi square?) and 149 degrees away from my Moon (inconjunct?).

Are these considered hard aspects to these planets? The interpretations do somewhat ring true, but I don't feel they play a major role in my life, the interpretations sound too harsh, but maybe I just don't wanna hear them?

Meh!

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izodesmozina
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posted January 07, 2007 09:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Venus! My nickname is Izodesmozina (that would be isodesmosine in English, it's an aminoacid ), but you can call me Izo LOL. Here is the interp:
~Lilith in Leo: You can transform your erotic instincts in artistical forces. You have a strong will and you might dominate your partner. You neglect other people's feelings, but you express yours in a harsh and selfish way.
~Lilith in the 11th house: It seems that in your past lives you got involved in the wrong kind of erotic encounters and that you took advantage of someone else's infidelity. In this life, you may show the same tendencies and your sexual principles are pretty liberal. You seek solitude because you'd like to remain independent and not assume responsability in a relationship. Your friends might not be as true as you'd think.
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The inconjunct is a minor aspect, but the semisquare applies.
~Lilith in hard aspect with Saturn (both males and females): You have an unconscious tendency for isolation and self-destruction, depression, crisis and frustration. You might have joint and digestive conditions.

I agree with the fact that these interpretations sound harsh. I have Mars, Saturn and Pluto in hard aspect with Lilith. I share some of the characteristics, but not the kinky ones. On the other hand, the author mentioned that these tendencies are unconscious. Once you become aware of them, you can master them. This doesn't make you a bad person. No way!

Best of luck to you!!!

Izo

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Venus De Milo
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posted January 07, 2007 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GAH! So sorry! I have an unusual name also and I HATE when people botch it, I don't know how I did that, I think I need more coffee!!!

Anyhow, I fixed it!

The Lillith interp for the 11th house could explain a lot. I am very liberal in those matters, I don't judge. As long as all involved are consenting adults, I don't care what you are doing and I'm not likely to be shocked either! But I'm very wary of getting involved in anything I consider "kinky" (which is relative)... it's a strange feeling that comes over me, like... and this will sound corny because of your interp, but I really feel this... It feels familiar... like, I've been there, done that and I know it's not really somehwere I want to venture again! Cause I'm NEVER shocked... and it's not trepidation that makes me hesitate... it's just a very calm knowing... that... I don't want to go there, if you know what I mean!

The rest, being depressed etc... yes, I have that tendency, but not to a great degree. I'm at a point in life where I feel that I've conquered most of my demons, so... maybe it was true and is true to some degree, but not so much now.

THANK YOU IZO!!!! Best of luck to you too. Happy 2007

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izodesmozina
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posted January 07, 2007 10:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, Venus, it's really ok. Relax!

I know exactly how you feel. My Lilith is in Aquarius, which is similar to the 11th house placement. I don't judge, either, and there are very few things that can shock me in that matter. I know what you mean on that kinkiness as well! "it's just a very calm knowing... that... I don't want to go there"... YEAH, I feel the same LOL!
I have Saturn in a hard aspect to Lilith too. I'm prone too feeling sorry for myself at times, but I usually am optimistic. I still have some inner demons to fight, though... The joint and digestive conditions are, however, true...

Happy 2007 to you too! If there is anything I can help you with, don't hesitate to ask!

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Zingi
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posted January 07, 2007 01:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that is pretty damned accurate izodesmozina
As far as the negative stuff I did all of that in my youth. Except the cheating I never cheated on a partner. I am not the type. I have a dominant and aggressive personality naturally And the the role model I had going up was an unsupportive overly detached narcissitic Aquarius.

Which now LOL I find myself struggling with balancing my issues of wanting to isolate(this is unconscious and floors me because I am so social) and destroy me cause I feel unloveable but longing to be in a healthy love life .

NOW I KNOW WHERE THIS COMES FROM ARRRRRGH !!! I seriously thought I was Nuts !!

That is a good book now I am on a quest to find it. Thank you so much. Much appreciation.
I TO THE IZO
And good luck at school this semester! BE SAFE !!

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BlueEyes24
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posted January 07, 2007 01:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi izodesmozina.

Would you mind telling me about Lilith in Gemini in the 7th house?

Thank you in advance.

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izodesmozina
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posted January 07, 2007 02:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zingi ,
I'm happy to hear this helped you. I'm sorry for the trouble you went through in your youth . But you know what they say... it's never too late to start over again. Please don't feel unloveable! Nobody is unloveable... you probably met the wrong people and you could not relate to them on this level.
I hear you with the balancing!...
I hope everything will come your way and sun will shine again for you! Thank you for all your wishes and your positive energy! I'm sending some back to you

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izodesmozina
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posted January 07, 2007 02:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Blue eyes! Here it goes:
~Lilith in Gemini: You have a tendency to appreciate your love life from a spiritual and intelectual point of view. You see sex as two minds that come together. You neglect to FEEL the relationship because you're too busy to analyse it from a rational, logical, theoretical and aesthetical point of view. Your love is mostly platonical and you declare your feelings without sustaining them with facts.
~Lilith in the 7th house: You will probably like to remain single after the heartache caused by an unfortunate marriage. Your partner will get you into all kinds of trouble, including legal trouble. It seems this is a very karmic placement, as well, and you will have to pay your karmic duties to your partner (in your past lives you offended the feelings of those who loved you sincerely).

You are most welcome!

Izo

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GeminiLover75
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posted January 07, 2007 04:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! Yep it does fit... in an over-exaggerated kind of way. But definitely does have truth in it.

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