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Topic: Following my heart instead of astrology
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jujube
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posted January 08, 2007 06:45 PM
 
I am involved with the most wonderful guy. It is the best relationship I have ever had. I care about him so much it almost makes me cry, and he feels the same way.But, we have HORRIBLE synastry. There are so many oppositions, and the only aspect between our suns or moons is a square. His saturn is opposition my mars, my sun and mercury are opposition his pluto/venus/mercury, his mars squares my neptune... etc. We do have some nice aspects with our ascendants, but that's about it. The other good aspects are mostly with very wide orbs, and even then, there aren't many. There is very little in our charts to suggest a strong bond. I have been so torn about this. I am crazy about this guy. From our charts, it looks like we're doomed... but so far, astrology has been dead wrong about our relationship. We have been so good for each other. I'm just waiting for something horrible to happen because the synastry sucks. Astrology has worked for me in so many ways... but I want SO badly for it to be wrong this time. I just want to forget our scary synastry and follow my heart, which tells me to be with him. Has anyone else had this problem? IP: Logged |
thedividedsky
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posted January 08, 2007 06:59 PM
keep having fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm so glad things are good!! Life is too short to sweat the small stuff. IP: Logged |
jenfullmoon
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posted January 08, 2007 07:01 PM
Just wondering: how's your composite chart?IP: Logged |
SLAYER
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posted January 08, 2007 07:05 PM
I feel for you jujube. Please dont think negative about your relationship just because your synastry chart says so. If you expect the negative, you surely will cause it drawn to you. I wish the best of good luck with your relationship to you. Have you checked the composite chart of you two? It might say something different  ------------------
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jujube
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posted January 08, 2007 07:05 PM
I'm not very good at understanding composites, but this is it... there are some good aspects but also difficult ones with Pluto.  IP: Logged |
SLAYER
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posted January 08, 2007 07:16 PM
Composite Ascendant in Virgo.
You come across as a rather unassuming couple. You project a practical and reliable image. No matter what makes up the "inner workings" of your relationship, you come across as undemonstrative. Others may think you are together for practical or intellectual reasons rather than emotional ones because of the image you project. You need to be careful not to pick away at each other when problems arise, as you tend to find fault rather easily in an effort to fix things. You are inclined to focus on details rather than the big picture, and this can make you quite susceptible to the tiniest of changes in your environment. Nervousness and tension can be the result. You may fuss over each other, and you do whatever you can to make the partnership work. You are one of the most helpful couples around.
Composite Sun in the 12th House. This position can bring challenges that most people find very difficult to deal with. In this relationship, many facets of your personalities that you would rather keep private may be revealed. Your relationship itself may be hidden from view or others may not know it exists at all. In fact, if they do know it exists, they are unlikely to understand what it is all about. This is an especially sensitive position of the Sun in the composite chart, and it calls for you to keep your eyes open. Many relationships with this position are unequal in power in some manner, where one person does more sacrificing to be with the other, where there is a significant age difference, where there is a secret affair, for example. This can take its toll over the long term. Dealing with imbalances is an inescapable part of your relationship, and it's best to use strategies to do so without inflicting or absorbing guilt.
Composite Moon in the 1st House. How you nurture each other and express emotions with one another is a major element of your relationship. Both the good and the bad in these areas are especially prominent, as this position of the Composite Moon magnifies the emotional attachment you have with one another. You react quickly, directly, and spontaneously on an emotional level to one another. You tend to make impulsive emotional decisions when together, and this gives an intimate and personal quality to the relationship that is intense and pronounced. Towards others, you are protective and defensive of your relationship. As well, others see you as quite protective of one another. A potential problem of this position is the magnification of little problems and everyday complaints such that you end up complaining a lot with one another! As individuals (when separate) you may not react with such emotion and drama to normal everyday irritations. There could also be an undercurrent of guilt running through this relationship.
Composite Venus in the 12th House. The love you have for one another may be secret or private, and/or you are called upon to take a leap of faith in order to be with one another. Much of the time, putting faith in one another brings you joy. However, humans are imperfect, and complete faith is hard to keep up all of the time. Herein lies the main challenge of this position. Being in a position where there is mystery or confusion surrounding your partner and/or your relationship can be trying over time. It can be hard to feel clear about the direction of your partnership, and there is a resistance to such clarity. Uncertainty, or a feeling of inequality between the two of you (such as a large age difference, an affair, and so forth), are themes of your relationship. Do your best not to make so many sacrifices for one another that you end up ignoring your own needs for happiness. Pasted them from www.cafeastrology.com
I hope it works out for you.
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pseudofemme
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posted January 08, 2007 07:31 PM
Astrology isn't infallable--at least human interpretations of it. I've seen couples with great synastry have their relationships turn sour, and couples with poor synastry adore each other. I think astrology should be a supplement to people's lives, not the sole guiding force.That said, you do have some nice stuff going on in the composite, including a grand trine between Jupiter, Saturn, and Mercury/Mars. Communication in this relationship is probably steady and stable, perhaps even making both of you more optimistic from Jupiter's influence. Venus in the 5th house indicates you have fun together, pure and simple... probably more than either of you do alone. The 7th house ruler (Neptune) is in the 5th house, trine the Moon and Ascendant. There is probably a very dreamy, ultra-romantic quality to the relationship. There is really nothing in astrology that can doom a relationship, provided both people love each other and are willing to work through rough spots. Don't let difficult synastry discourage you from sticking in this relationship. It sounds like you really like him. Follow your heart, most definitely. IP: Logged |
Amelia
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posted January 08, 2007 10:31 PM
Good for you, jujube! I actually think that having even the typical 'harder' aspects is much better; than lacking in interaspects all together. Anywho, I sometimes actually like 'oppositions' as it reminds me of ping-pong...yin-yang; 'bounce' off eachother. Heck, even the square when used positively helps both individuals grow as a person (and as a couple). I think 'positive growth' is really important in relationships. It really counts on the temperment of each of the individuals in the relationship; whether one is willing to work through issues in the relationship; keeping an open-mind to one anothers' habits and an open-heart as well. Anywho... , lol...point is that if a couple wants to make it work; it will work...no matter the synastry aspects.  ------------------
'Virgo Ascendant, Libra Moon, Aries Sun' "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense". - Buddha IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
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posted January 08, 2007 10:59 PM
Oh i can relate astrology has made me cry so much over my relationship with my bf. I love him with all my heart and yet we have horrible synastry (on the outer planets) and even worse composite. I wish you luck and i agree that you should follow your heartIP: Logged |
Amelia
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posted January 08, 2007 11:32 PM
^  ...BUD, I know this doesn't help, but *HUGS*. I can really tell that you love your boyfriend a lot and that is enough to make any relationship work out! IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
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posted January 09, 2007 01:17 AM
Of course it helps Amelia you are soooo sweet!!!!!  *biiig hugeeeeeee hug* Thank you so much for your kind words!IP: Logged |
D for Defiant
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posted January 09, 2007 05:54 AM
Pseudofemme,You've made very sound points. But I would like to add the following: The human interpretations/application of astrology are not infallible, and even astrology itself is not infallible because- we human beings, either as astrologers or as common folks seeking professional advice distort the essence and the spirit of astrology most of the time, which is really a great shame. The way astrologers/amateur astrologers interpret horoscopes has always been evolving, changing, advancing- we frequently discover some older, established theories may be inaccurate. Sometimes the charts we've got are NOT even those of the precise, correct birth details of the individuals' being analyzed. Other times we may dwell on symbolic meanings and academical techniques, theories excessively; remember that ultimately, astrology is about using your willpower to change your destiny. You can change, as long as your heart desires to do so. Linda had mentioned that many of the Catholic saints' own natal charts contents did not fit their life events at all- because those individuals had successfully applied their own will to direct themselves toward their desired destinations of their own choices. People constantly blame astrology as nonsense, or find it not helpful due to its not-infallible nature, all because they have used astrology the wrong way. Wilfred Bion was the only psychoanalytical thinker (as far as I know) who emphasized the importance of INTUITION- intuition prevails all the knowledge, and all the techniques you already have learned (although I haven't spent enough time to further understand his mathematical-related psychoanalytical theories yet). Jujube  In your case, with absolutely not doubt, just listen to your heart and follow your heart. Too much preoccupation on the so-called astrological knowledge/information would only generate fear in you and eventually materialize what you fear. Do not "wait for the horrible things to happen". Forget about all that- you know you love him, and he knows he loves you as well- that, and that alone, is enough; listen to your own voice from within. True love can conquer anything  IP: Logged |
Sweet Stars
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posted January 09, 2007 09:27 AM
Same here Jujube ------------------
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Cancer Ascendant
Mercury Gemini
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cristiname
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posted January 10, 2007 05:22 AM
no book or theory has been proven 100% right in human history like D said... maybe we got it all wrong in the first place! who's to say? free will is a wonderful thing, well accepted and encouraged by astrology. exercise it: it's your right! IP: Logged |
somommy66
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posted January 11, 2007 07:01 AM
Hi everybody I'm new here and thought I'd pipe in because my personal experience relates. The truth is that you can follow your heart AND astrology! My husband and I have been married for 11 years, together for 13 years with a number of challenging aspects. Not the least of which is that I am a Taurus and he a Scorpio - our suns in direct opposition! We drive each other crazy all the time, and yet are still madly in love with one another as we were from the start. Look at your challenging aspects as an opportunity to grow, and you can't go wrong. The important thing is that both parties are willing to grow in patience, understanding, and compassion together. The relationship has to be worth the effort for both of you. IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted January 12, 2007 12:29 PM
The synastry between me and my bf is also not the best one.. and there are lack of personal planets (like Sun, Moon, Venus, etc.) contacts.. But we have some nice aspects between personal planets and Jupiter and Neptune.. and some other small details.. ^_^;
Our composite looks better thought, but also not the best..astrologically, I'd say that we can't resume at the synastry or composite itself.. maybe there are some small details we don't see that changes the whole picture.. and personally, I'd say that there are always something we can't justify.. why some relationships just works perfectly while others doesn't.. you can't find what can guarantee that the relationship can work out or not (with astrology or by seeing how the relationship itself is going). but what you can do is to enjoy to be with the one you love right now, and learn together how to live with each other and to work out each other's diffrences.. ^_^ IP: Logged |
Xena
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posted January 12, 2007 01:04 PM
Oh, Good Lord, Jujube!Astrology was MADE UP by humans, it is perceptive at times, but if you like a person, for God's sake, don't put a spanner in the works! My ex-husband's and my, and my parents', composite charts, BOTH had Sun in the 5th. Fab indicator for marriage, shame those marriages didn't work out. Worry you not!!! MWAH!  Xena IP: Logged | |
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