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Author Topic:   No EARTH signs in a chart
sinderlou
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posted January 19, 2007 02:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does that mean if a chart has no earth signs? Is this common or does it not mean any thing significant at all?

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Atlenta
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posted January 19, 2007 02:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it might mean they're not especially practical.. they can live life like a floater, drifting with the tide, may be particularly impressionable.
But it makes them flexible and easier to get along with.

Having planets fall in earth ruled houses might lighten the effect - 2nd, 6th, 10th

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sinderlou
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posted January 19, 2007 03:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks anthenta!

I was wondering if this type of chart could mean that that they were not real grounded or serious about things. Not real sure though.

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Atlenta
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posted January 19, 2007 03:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. I know someone with no earth planets!
He is very friendly and amiable, but is serious about alot of things.He does have alot of saturn influences though. He is predominantly air/fire, so he's very smart and energetic.
But one thing is the finances - he does not seem to know when to stop spending.

Not real grounded yes, i think so, and this leads to alot of insecurity within. I'm not sure if it's other aspects that might be present in the chart to suggest that, but i think the person would need, or unconsciously seek a partner who would ground them and provide the security they seem to lack, and crave.

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wilsontc
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posted January 19, 2007 05:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sinderlou,

If a person is lacking an element (e.g., "Earth") in their chart, they will often work hard to "balance out" that loss. In the "missing earth" case the result is often to OVERearth, to become overly practical (Earth energy) as a way to balance out the missing element.

Earthily,

Tim

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sinderlou
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posted January 20, 2007 03:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim you said.............

If a person is lacking an element (e.g., "Earth") in their chart, they will often work hard to "balance out" that loss. In the "missing earth" case the result is often to OVERearth, to become overly practical (Earth energy) as a way to balance out the missing element.

I say that your theory is really interesting. He seem VERY practical and because of the lack of earth i was questioning the whole astrological thing completely. But this makes sense. So he probably has an internal struggle knowing that he is not practical and making a very strong daily effort to be so? Wouldn't that be taxing mentally?


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wilsontc
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posted January 20, 2007 06:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sinderlou,

You are right on target! It IS difficult to do and it can result in the person approaching everything "like they are walking on a tightrope", afraid to "fall off" into being impractical. The solution is for him to trust that a few "impractical" things are OK every once in awhile.

Over the earth,

Tim

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sinderlou
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posted January 21, 2007 03:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again

thanks for your insight on this, it is very enlightening. He does seem to be practical to the extreme. I guess i will have to try to lighten him up a bit

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Atlenta
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posted January 21, 2007 11:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with them trying very hard to be practical. I always hear him saying that something "is impractical"..
But then again I don't feel he's particularly practical anyway, lol!
The overearth theory is very interesting.
I have little water; maybe i try hard to be emotional - I'm always trying to get in touch with my emotions, but it's quit hard for me not to use my head first.

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sinderlou
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posted January 21, 2007 11:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Based on this info, I can correctly assume that even though a sign say is loaded with water, that it may not be that emotional because that my be trying to be more of what they are lacking in other areas?

Is this always the case? I am trying to understand if this. So if someone has hardly any air, they may appear to be more itellectual though they have more water signs in their chart that one would first this that they were more emotional?

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Atlenta
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posted January 21, 2007 12:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi sinderlou,

I'm also trying to understand this. Me thinks that when a chart is loaded with water, and they lack air, for instance, they will try hard to detach from their emotional state to use more mental ways of looking at things. However, they are essentially feeling, but they just need a "balance" as Tim has pointed out.

Taking my friend for instance, he is predominantly air and fire. He *is* overly practical in many areas I must admit.. but I know him for such a long time I know his basic nature, which is not particularly practical.
For instance, I know he is one who would choose a course of education that would make the most money instead of what he is passionate in. And he wouldn't keep an animal even though he really wanted it because it was impractical (in the sense of finances, and upkeep).
So maybe their "practicality" is like the unconscious discipline master, trying to stop one characteristic from going overboard, even if that's what they're inclined to do.

I hope this sort of answers your question.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted January 21, 2007 12:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi sinderlou, i also know a guy with complete lack of earth in his chart, and he comes off as overly practical too. in fact, me with venus and sun in cappy am less practical than him and follow my heart more. he wudn't have a gf bcoz he feels he shud concentrate on his career. this is even if he is strongly attracted to that person. i was really shocked how he is so practical, till i read this post.

Tim, what do you have to say about a lack of fire? i hv neptune and uranus in 5th house tho. still, thr is a noticeable dearth of fire. i feel that in myself. its hard for me to be as energetic as many other ppl. i actually feel tht i lack the 'fire'. i come off as very calm, well composed, caring etc etc. not fiery at all.

ILWL

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wilsontc
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posted January 22, 2007 12:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ILWL,

Fire energy is not necessarily being "energetic." Instead, Fire energy is about using energy to emphasize our "Identity" (more about this in Step 4 of the link below). So a person with fire in their charts has the energy of "Identity", which emphasizes who they are to others. In a similar way, planets in Fire (Identity) houses help the person to focus on their identity.

Identitizing,

Tim

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sinderlou
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posted January 23, 2007 10:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello tim

i am fasinated by the way you look at charts. is is possible to look at this persons chart and mine to see what you see? I have already gotten a shoet reading on these charts together and both are totally different. If you wouldnt'mind, i would appreciate it.

In LOve with life said:::
Hi sinderlou, i also know a guy with complete lack of earth in his chart, and he comes off as overly practical too. in fact, me with venus and sun in cappy am less practical than him and follow my heart more. he wudn't have a gf bcoz he feels he shud concentrate on his career. this is even if he is strongly attracted to that person. i was really shocked how he is so practical, till i read this post.

this person i know did the same thing. He did not date until way later in life because he did not want any interuptions in his career. yet he can cry and be senstive while watching a movie.

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wilsontc
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posted January 23, 2007 11:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sinderlou,

Post the information and I will take a look at it.

Waiting,

Tim

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sinderlou
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posted January 23, 2007 12:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I appreciate this Tim. I am getting info regarding that we may have met before (soul mates?) and also info that we are highly intuitive people. I just want to hear what your interpretation is since you make a lot of sense. thank you


MINE

Sun Pisces 22° 30' in house 5
Moon Pisces 9° 11' in house 5
Mercury Pisces 22° 14' in house 5
Venus Taurus 6° 15' in house 7
Mars Pisces 17° 8' in house 5
Jupiter Aries 22° 56' in house 7
Saturn Aquarius 28° 45' in house 5
Uranus Virgo 7° 23' in house 11
Neptune Scorpio 17° 41' in house 2
Pluto Virgo 12° 41' in house 11
North Node mean Cancer 7° 32' in house 9
North Node true Cancer 8° 16' in house 9
Ascendant Libra 17° 3' in house 1
Medium Coeli Cancer 19° 50' in house 10
Zodiac Tropical
Time Zone: 5 hours WEST
Latitude & Longitude: 40N26 79W60
Aspects y Orbs:
Conjunction: 8 Degrees
Opposition: 8 Degrees
Square: 8 Degrees
Trine: 8 Degrees
Sextile: 5 Degrees


THIS PERSON

Sun Cancer 10° 12' in house 12
Moon Saggitarius 17° 29' in house 5
Mercury Cancer 7° 40' in house 12
Venus Gemini 7° 40' in house 11
Mars Leo 14° 23' in house 1
Jupiter Pisces 17° 49' in house 9
Saturn Cancer 8° 35' in house 12
Uranus Libra 23° 39' in house 4
Neptune Saggitarius 7° 24' in house 5
Pluto Libra 4° 9' in house 3
North Node mean Saggitarius 18° 15' in house 5
North Node true Saggitarius 19° 25' in house 5
Ascendant Cancer 28° 10' in house 1
Medium Coeli Aries 13° 13' in house 10
Zodiac Tropical
Time Zone: 4 hours WEST
Latitude & Longitude: 39N41 80W28
Aspects y Orbs:
Conjunction: 8 Degrees
Opposition: 8 Degrees
Square: 8 Degrees
Trine: 8 Degrees
Sextile: 5 Degrees

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taurean_scorpion
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posted January 23, 2007 03:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
more idealistic.

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sinderlou
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posted January 23, 2007 04:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Idealistic...........you mean just freinds?

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wilsontc
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posted January 23, 2007 04:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sinderlou,

Please post the birth information in this format:
Month Day Year
XX:XX AM or PM
City, County/Province, State, Country

Needing a different format,

Tim

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sinderlou
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posted January 23, 2007 04:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the delay, here is the info:

Mine:

March 12 1964
8:23pm
Pittsburgh, PA

Theirs:

July 2 1974
7:30am
Hundred, WV

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taurean_scorpion
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posted January 23, 2007 06:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if it has anything to do with wanting a 'just friends' relationship or not. But earth signs like it either way, friends or a relationship, they don't like to keep it inbetween, you know. They like to be sure that everything is in order; predictable I guess. With your stellium in pisces, I don't think you'd have problems adapting to a relationship with him. One thing though, his loyatly may be questionable. That's just my opinion.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer

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sinderlou
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posted January 23, 2007 06:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
taurean

Do you question the loyalty due to the Gemnini Venus and Leo Mars?

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taurean_scorpion
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posted January 23, 2007 07:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
leos are loyal. i wouldn't say that about the leo in his chart, but he doesn't have enough of it. and i don't think his cancer sun, mercury is enough either. Basicaly, his houses are the 12th, 5th, 12th, 11th, 1st, 9th, 5th, 5th,...these aren't big on loyalty except the 4th and 5th, but he doesn't have them in his personal planets and since the planets in his signs aren't so either...I guess that's why i think that. Might want to look at his aspects too.

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sinderlou
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posted January 23, 2007 07:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
taurean

Tim is helping me out by checking out the chart. If you need anything to get me details, i will post it. I am makeing some serious decisions about this person. I need to determine if it is wise to make a move here or not.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted January 23, 2007 08:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim is a great astrologer. If you would like another astrologer's perspective, see if you could get William's attention as well. Whatever you decide to do though, do what feels right to you.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer

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