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SagSun
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posted January 24, 2007 03:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, now I'm not going to ask you, if you've ever been unfaithful, because this is clearly none of my business. But I would like to pose some hypothetical questions.

First, please imagine the following scenario: A guy and girl #1 have been dating for about 5 years. Both have been faithful up until then. But then, after those 5 years, the guy cheats on girl #1 with girl #2, whom he has known for a long time. He confesses his infidelities to his long-term girlfriend. However, he doesn't end the relationship with girl #1 and neither does she. He then doesn't see girl #2 for 2 years, because they live in different countries. But he stays in touch with her through e-mails and instant messaging.
Then, 2 years later (during which the guy hasn't once seen girl #2), the guy meets girl #2 again. He is still dating girl #1, but again, he cheats on her with girl #2. And again, neither the guy nor girl #1 end the relationship. The guy and girl #2 still stay in touch, even though girl #1 seems to get more jealous every day.
Another year later, the history repeats itself once more. Guy meets girl #2, guy cheats on girl #1 with girl #2 and neither the guy nor girl #1 end the relationship (at that point they have been together for about 9 years). Maybe I should add at this point that the guy is actually a very faithful kind of person and except for girl #2 he has never cheated on girl #1.

Edit: Girl #2 is in love with the guy and has told him about her feelings towards him.

Now here are the two questions:

#1 If you were the guy, would you break up with girl #1 and start a relationship with girl #2 or stay with girl #1? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?

#2 If you were girl #1, would you leave the guy and break up with him or stay with him even though he cheated on you several times with the same girl over the course of 4 years? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?

Please also put down your stats!!!

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SagSun
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posted January 24, 2007 03:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess I'll start:

#1 I probably would break up with girl #1 as soon as I cheat on her again after not seing the other girl for more than 2 years. I think at that point I would start asking myself why I always fall for girl #2 even though I'm in a relationship with girl #1. And I'd probably realize that the thing between girl #2 and me is more than a fling.

#2 I would break up with the guy immediately. Cheating is a big no-no in relationships. Once he cheated on me, I would never be able to trust him again. But even if I stayed after he cheated on me for the first time (maybe due to financial reasons), I would break up with him when he cheats on me again after 2 years. I would start asking myself why is he always cheating on me with that one girl ... and then I'd probably realize that he has strong feelings for girl #2 and is just too afraid to break up with me.

My stats:
Sun in Sagittarius (8th House)
Moon in Leo (5th House)
Mercury in Sagittarius (9th House)
Venus in Libra (7th House)
Mars in Libra (7th House)
Jupiter in Sagittarius (9th House)
Saturn in Scorpio (7th/8th House - depending on the House system)
Uranus in Sagittarius (9th House)
Neptune in Sagittarius (9th House)
Pluto in Scorpio (7th House)
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Ling
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posted January 24, 2007 03:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I am the guy, I will stop my relationship with #1, apparently there must be something going on if i continue cheating on #1 with #2. I'd do that not out of spite but rather as a respect to both #1 and #2. You didn't mention #2's emotions with respect to him... but #1 is definately hurt. I wouldn't hurt someone I love or loved. Maybe, I just didn't love #1 but stayed out of duty or comfort? People can be weird...

If I am #1, I will stop my relationship with the guy. He gotta have issues if he continues cheating with #2. Out of dignity and respect to myself and to whatever we once shared, and to preserve the integrity of our love we once had, lets leave things with a happier ending. In fact, for me, once hurt, never twice broken. I dun see how I would have struck around for the third or fourth promise to be broken again.

My stats:
Sun in Leo (11th House)
Moon in Aquarius (5th House)
Mercury in Cancer (10th House)
Venus in Gemini (9th House)
Mars in Libra (1st House)
Jupiter in Virgo (12th House)
Saturn in Virgo (12th House)
Uranus in Scopio (2nd House)
Neptune in Sagittarius (3rd House)
Pluto in Libra (1st House)
Libra Ascendant

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livelife2learn
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posted January 24, 2007 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for livelife2learn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Intresting question and scenario.


#1 If you were the guy, would you break up with girl #1 and start a relationship with girl #2 or stay with girl #1? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?

--- There will not be any girl 2 as far as I know. However if there is girl2 Yes, I will break up with girl 1 and start a relationship with giirl 2 on 2 conditions 1)
If I am sure about girl 2 feelings and my feelings. 2)and if that's what also girl 1 wanted. Just because I don't want to be unfaithful to my own and other's feelings. The only reason I will stay with that girl 1 will be for superficial reasons like Children, Work, Security.I might also live with girl 1 to give that relationship more chance and see if relationship can go further.If it seemed hopeless and it's at last stage ultimately I will break up.I will discard unwanted relationships and make my life easier but ofcourse while removing one of them my life will be a tough decision based on lots of factors love,feelings, future,presnt conditions,etc.

#2 If you were girl #1, would you leave the guy and break up with him or stay with him even though he cheated on you several times with the same girl over the course of 4 years? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?

I will not stay with guy if he is cheating on me as it's very clear that something is missing in our relationship and since guy has cheated several times it shows that he is unable to make decision on what he wants. The reason for living with him either could be love from my side and all superficial reasons.It will be difficult to leave him but I will get over it eventually and start my new life.

Sun Scorpio Moon Aries Asc Sag Venus Libra Mars Virgo.

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jane
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posted January 24, 2007 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. I'd break up with girl #1 once I first started feeling a strong attraction to girl #2. I've done this in the past, and didn't always pursue something with guy#2 after ending things with guy#1. I end the relationship because I figure that if I'm wanting someone else badly enough that I want to act on the attraction (and not just daydream about it), then I'm not committed enough to be in an exclusive relationship. I know this is probably an odd and strict philosophy and my friends find it peculiar, but it's something I strongly feel. I don't feel like the relationship is authentic if I'm wanting someone else so badly that I'm willing to cheat, let alone if I actually do cheat.

2. I'd break up with the guy as soon as I found out. Depending on the relationship, I might consider keeping a friend with benefits type of situation, but I'd no longer consider us a couple.

Sun in Sagittarius (H2)
Moon in Leo (H10)
Mercury in Scorpio (H1)
Venus in Capricorn (H3)
Mars in Virgo (H10)
Jupiter in Virgo (H10)
Saturn in Virgo (H11)
Uranus in Scorpio (H1)
Neptune in Sagittarius (H2)
Pluto in Libra (H12)
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Jan_A
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posted January 24, 2007 05:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
#1 I would stay with girl #1. Reason woul be - i can cheat her everytime and she forgives everything. What a pleasant situation!
#2 i would stay with that guy. At least until i will find something better.
Sun Pisces in house 6
Moon Capricorn in house 4
Mercury Aries in house 7
Venus Aries in house 8
Mars Taurus in house 8
Jupiter Aquarius in house 5
Saturn Scorpio in house 3
Uranus Sagittariusin house 3
Neptune Capricorn in house 4
Pluto Scorpio in house 2
True Node Taurus end of house 8
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solar_third
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posted January 24, 2007 06:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
#1 If you were the guy, would you break up with girl #1 and start a relationship with girl #2 or stay with girl #1? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?


#1 Break up and move on. That would probably mean moving country in this case. But I'd guess if she's good enough to cheat on girl#1, then she'd be worth a shot. If I stayed with girl#1, she wouldn't be "girl#1' for me any longer, in truth - I'd be staying with her because I'm "Guy#1" - a manipulative, stubborn chicken.

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#2 If you were girl #1, would you leave the guy and break up with him or stay with him even though he cheated on you several times with the same girl over the course of 4 years? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?


Break up immediately and find someone a bit more adventurous and who treated me with a modicum of respect. If I stayed, I'd be unfaithful to myself. Though why not stay? everyone else seems to be . . .

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Please also put down your stats!!!

Sun Pisces 0°19'44 in house 3
Moon Pisces 11°50'25 in house 3
Mercury Aquarius 11°49'03 in house 2
Venus Aries 14°15'13 in house 4
Mars Aquarius 7°25'21 in house 2
Jupiter Taurus 23°08'48 in house 6
Saturn Leo 12°06'33 in house 8
Uranus Scorpio 11°46'47 in house 11
Neptune Sagittarius 15°56'19 in house 1
Pluto Libra 13°52'11 in house 10
True Node Libra 25°39'34 in house 10


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Lauren
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posted January 24, 2007 08:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
#1 If you were the guy, would you break up with girl #1 and start a relationship with girl #2 or stay with girl #1? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?

Since this whole girl 2 thing is such a long term situation, if I was guy I’d be seriously asking myself what the heck it is that I want.. then I’d make a decision and stick to it. I actually would’ve done this as soon as the first time it happened, so I would’ve made a decision then.

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#2 If you were girl #1, would you leave the guy and break up with him or stay with him even though he cheated on you several times with the same girl over the course of 4 years? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?

I would’ve left as soon as the first time, simply because the story implies an emotional bond between guy and girl2.. It wasn’t a one night stand and I’d see it as emotional cheating. A one night stand I could get over easily, because a purely physical thing wouldn’t hurt me.. but emotional cheating with a long term friend.. that’s a big no no for me.

Sun – Aries
Moon – Capricorn
Mercury – Pisces
Venus – Aries/Taurus
Mars – Capricorn

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Virgo/Aries75
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posted January 24, 2007 08:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
#1 If I were the guy I'd KEEP IT IN MY PANTS!!! When in a relationship I tend to focus on that person ONLY. The exception being when there are major problems in the relationship. IF that were the case then I'd have to look at the situation and feelings for both girls. If I felt things weren't going to work out in the long run with Girl #1 I'd end things with her, but not necessarily move on to Girl #2. I'd still want to check things out a bit further before jumping into anything with Girl #2. I also like to leave a little space between relationships just so there's no overlap of emotions/baggage.

#2 If I were the girl I would have DUMPED HIM as soon as I found out he cheated. It's not that hard to tell someone, "It's over" before sleeping with someone else. Sex happens when you put yourself in the situation FOR it to happen. If sex/cheating really "just happened" then we'd all be walking around with AIDS and unexpected/unwanted pregnancies because we'd ALL have a lot of "just happened" incidents with complete strangers out on the street.

Sun Virgo (10th House)
Moon Aries (5th House)
Mercury Virgo (10th House)
Venus Virgo (10th House)
Mars Gemini (7th House)
Jupiter Aries (6th House)
Saturn Cancer (9th House)
Uranus Libra (12th House)
Neptune Sagittarius (1st House)
Pluto Libra (11th House)
Scorpio Ascendant

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Gemini Nymph
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posted January 24, 2007 11:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
#1 If you were the guy, would you break up with girl #1 and start a relationship with girl #2 or stay with girl #1? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?

If I were a guy, I doubt I would break up with #1. I assume I'm in a relationship with her and not #2 for a reason. Maybe I'm an emotional vampire, sucking her life essence from her - I couldn't leave that. Not until I had sucked her dry at least, right? So #2 just serves as a nice ocasional side dish when I'm feeling a little bored with #1, and gives #1 a chance to recup her energies before I start sucking her dry again. I can get more mileage out of her that way. And hey, #1 is staying around - she must like that I'm a parasite, right? SOunds like a good deal to me!

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#2 If you were girl #1, would you leave the guy and break up with him or stay with him even though he cheated on you several times with the same girl over the course of 4 years? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?

It depends.

Scenerio A: I dump the guy after he cheated on me first time around, because I'm not that patient of a person and I hate a guy to come groveling to me out of guilt for something he did behind my back. How am I suppose to react to that? Give him a medal and a courtesy f*ck for being so honest? I don't torelate that crap. Either he cheats and has the backbone to deal with it, or he's a wuss and I kick him to the curb.

Scenerio B: The guy's an Aqua, so I know he's going to get bored and go sleep with some long time friend at some point anyhow. I've already talked to him about it, and gave him the "ground rules" about what I can and cannot tolerate about him sleeping around. If he embarasses me, if he gets an STD, if the other woman shows up at 2 AM and screams at me - he's history. Other than that, fine. I'll just use it as leverage to screw one of my friends when I get bored with him.

My "stats"

Virgo ASC
Gem Sun - 10th
Pis Moon - 7th
Gem Merc - 9/10th
Gem Venus - 9th
Aqua Mars - 5/6th
Sco Jupiter - 3rd
Tau Saturn - 9th
Lib Uranus - 1st
Sag Neptune - 3rd
Vir Pluto - 1st
Aries Chiron - 8th
Can Juno - 11th
Gem Ceres - 10th
Aqua Vesta - 5th
Aqua NN - 5th

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amisha121877
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posted January 24, 2007 12:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if i were girl #1 - guy is not my boyfriend nor will he get the privileges "boyfriends" get / he will be a friend, a lover, and a guy but not a boyfriend. i will live, let live and definitely come to terms with the fact that this guy is not who i'm going to get married to, have children with or anything of the sort / he's a living, breathing "is". i'd loosen my bra some and not get caught up with this guy anymore but instead, see him as a been there, done that and graduated with flying colors - you live and you learn

if i were guy - i'd **** or get off the pot if I'm so 'confused' - let go of one or the other. if i am going to see both of them or just one of them, i will come to terms that i don't have a girlfriend / i would not jump into a relationship with any one of them that would constitute as a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. i'd let some wind hit my balls more often than I did when i was in a relationship - save the drama for your mama

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Kamilla
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posted January 24, 2007 12:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"....save the drama for your mama..." this was great, amisha.

This is not exactly on the subject but I was just thinking this morning... why is that no matter how much of a loser, cheater or being totally screwed up otherwise, a guy is - there is ALWAYS a woman who would want him?

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Natural111
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posted January 24, 2007 01:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They guy is afraid of being alone, which is why he has girl #1, but girl#2 is the woman whom he loves. It's gonna take girl #2 finding a man who truly loves her the way she deserves to be loved for the guy to leave her alone. And it's going to take girl#2 to respect the relationship the guy is in, for the guy to either, say, I'm sorry to girl #1 and go off with girl #2, or realize he actually loves girl#1, and that girl #2 was right to leave.

But as for now, all of them has acceptwd this situation. Someone's going to have to say no to it and want more. It's going to take girl #1 or #2 to step up. Because the guy is sitting pretty, pretty right now.

That's my take.

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Dulce Luna
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posted January 24, 2007 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm....


Guy #1: I wouldn't say that guy should break up with girl #1 and go to #2 because there is a reason that girl #2 is still on the side after all these years. He probably doesn't see her as relationship material especially considering she's a friend. Maybe a friend with benefits? However, I wouldn't advise him to stay with Gurl #1 because there's obviously something wrong if you feel the need to cheat on her. All in all, guy sounds like a confused b@stard...why would girl #1 or #2 want him anyways????


Girl #1: If I were her I would break up with him immediately...I'm not very forgiving of cheaters no matter how strong my feelings are. I might mess his head a little or go out with his cousin or something after the break up for revenge (I'm a cancer, that's what I do), but I wouldn't get back with him.

Sun cancer/7th
Moon virgo/8th
Venus gemini/5th
Mars Aries/3rd
Merc cancer/6th
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SagSun
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posted January 24, 2007 02:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting replies so far!!!

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seveneieghtorange
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posted January 25, 2007 12:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I was the guy, I would probably ask myself why I continue to cheat on my long-term girlfriend. I guess it depends of what kind of person guy#1, if he's the kind of guy that faces the fact that maybe he just cant keep away from girl#2, or the kind that thinks he can still get away with cheating on girl#2 while being in a long term relationship with girl#1.
Its pretty obvious that the guy has deep feelings for girl#2, and he doesnt want to admit it. If the guy cheated on girl#1 with several women whom he didnt have any frequent contact with whatsoever, then I'd say he just has a hard time being committed, not exactly that he has feelings for every girl he's cheated with.

If I was the girl (and I have been in this situation before. Not exactly the same years-wise, but pretty much the "theme" of it is the same), well it is hard to say that I will immediately break off with him as soon as I found out. I thought I would break up with my boyfriend as soon as I fouind out he cheated on me (even if he denied it), but I stayed because I was so shocked and heartbroken, I didnt want to lose him. MISTAKE! But if I was the girl#1, I would've broken up with him the 2nd time, because then I'd have enough, seeing as it would have been hard to trust him once his infidelities arises.

MY STATS:

Sun in Cancer - 1st house
Moon in Scorpio - 5th house
Merc in Cancer - 1st house
Venus in Taurus - 11th house
Mars in Cancer - 1st house
Jupiter in Aquarius - 8th house
Saturn in Scorpio - 4th house/5th house
Uranus in Sagittarius - 6th house
Neptune in Capricorn - 7th house
Pluto in Scorpio - 5th house

*In some charts I have a Gemini ascendant, on some I have a Cancer....I always get confused which ascendant I natally have...*

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BlueEyes24
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posted January 25, 2007 01:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
((#1 If you were the guy, would you break up with girl #1 and start a relationship with girl #2 or stay with girl #1? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?))

Alright, I'm going to be honest here.... I met my boyfriend now when I was still with someone, and I ended up cheating (on my ex) with my current boyfriend. I always used to say that I would NEVER EVER cheat, and trust me, I never will again- I love my boyfriend now way too much, and I am very faithful and devoted to him. However, I didn't really care enough about my ex and when I met my current boyfriend, I felt very intrigued by him. I wasn't happy with my ex, and cheated on him instead of just breaking it off, which was a big mistake on my part. However, I don't regret what I did because it led me to my boyfriend now. But anyway, back to the point....my belief (i know that a lot of people have different opinions on this) is that if you love someone with all your heart, you WILL remain faithful- unless of course you're the type that can't be faithful to anyone. In the scenario you described, I believed that the guy loved girl #1, but obviously not enough if he kept hooking up with girl #2. Maybe he felt there was something missing in his relationship with girl #1...I dunno...especially since you said he's normally very faithful.


((#2 If you were girl #1, would you leave the guy and break up with him or stay with him even though he cheated on you several times with the same girl over the course of 4 years? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?))

Uhhh, this is definitely a no-brainer...I'd break up with him! Even cheating ONCE is pushing it....I don't even think I could take someone back then. But the fact this guy has cheated on this girl with the SAME girl repeatedly, shows that he's not fully in his relationship with girl #1 physically OR emotionally.

And I'm a Virgo Sun (9th house)/Scorpio Moon & Venus (11th house)/Sagittarius Rising/Cappy Mars (2nd house).

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Planet_Soul
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posted January 25, 2007 03:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
#1: If I were the guy, I would break up with girl #1 and take a time-out from girl #2. I'd take the time to analyze why I've put myself and two other people into such a drama. In the end, I'd probably date other people since girl #2 would be a memory of an unpleasant triangle.

#2: If I were girl #1, I would of dumped the guy the first time he cheated. No matter the financial situation. That is why I do my best to be independent, because I am not one to tolerate BS and cling to a man who's wronged me. If I stayed with a cheater, I wouldn't be able to look myself in the eye with dignity. I will not compete for a man, if I'm put in that place then he obviously doesn't care enough.


Stats:
Asc Sag
Sun Sag (12th)
Moon Pisces (3rd)
Mercury Sag (12th)
Venus Scorp (11th)
Mars Sag (1st)
Jupiter Leo (8th)
Saturn Virgo(9th)
Uranus Scorp(11th)
Neptune Sag (12th)
Pluto Libra (10th)

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Aislinn
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posted January 25, 2007 08:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I were the guy, I'd break up with girl #1. Well, first off I wouldn't have cheated to begin with, but that wasn't your question... I'd break up with #1 and go after #2.

If I were girl #1, I'd definitely break up with the guy NOW before this goes any further. Girl #1 needs to find someone else who will treat her the way she deserves to be treated--with honor and respect. No matter what he says, if he loves girl #1, he wouldn't cheat on her at all. End of story.

My stats:

Sun in Cancer, 2nd house
Moon in Sag, 8th house
Mercury in Cancer, 2nd house
Venus in Taurus, 12th house
Mars in Taurus, 12th house
Jupiter in Gemini, 1st house
Saturn in Leo, 4th house
Uranus in Scorpio, 6th house
Neptune in Sag, 7th house
Pluto in Libra, 6th house
Taurus Ascendant

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sinderlou
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posted January 25, 2007 08:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actions speak louder than words........He does not love girl #1. He needs to leave her and let her meet someone that will love her. This will only eat away at the self respect she has for herself.

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BornUnderDioscuri
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posted January 25, 2007 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BornUnderDioscuri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now here are the two questions:

#1 If you were the guy, would you break up with girl #1 and start a relationship with girl #2 or stay with girl #1? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?
If i was the guy i would probably stay with girl #1 because she provides me the stability and the safety but clearly lacks something that girl #2 gives me. Though i will second what someone said and probably stay till I find someone better...which wouldnt be too long and Id probably look after the first time he cheated.

#2 If you were girl #1, would you leave the guy and break up with him or stay with him even though he cheated on you several times with the same girl over the course of 4 years? If you stayed, what would be your reasons?
I would probably leave him. I dont know its a very tough one, i would hate him and make him pay FOR SURE. But possibly forgive him but only if he did it ONCE. If it was more than once he is OUT and clearly it was NO accident.

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Sweet Stars
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posted January 25, 2007 11:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never cheat. It doesn't even run through my mind......no matter how bad things get.


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I know you see me looking at you and you already know......I wanna love you, you already know.

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Gemini/Cancer cusp
Cancer Ascendant
Mercury Gemini
Taurus Moon *29
Venus Taurus
Mars Libra

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MysticMelody
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posted January 26, 2007 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would your answers change if all variables remained the same except he was married and had children with Girl #1 ?
What if, in addition to the above situation, the infidelity had not been physical, but only emotional or mental?

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Jan_A
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posted January 26, 2007 05:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, but some answers are just dishonest. In real life nobody has courage to break up, but even if somebody does it, then he/she cries even 10 years later about that partnership. It is easy to say "break up!". To do it is something different.

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solar_third
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posted January 26, 2007 05:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jan_A> can you say 'Mars in Aquarius'? Or 'Venus in Aries'?

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