posted January 30, 2007 07:58 PM              

How about i Just give you my Birth Data...I dont have my chart here with me.

posted January 30, 2007 08:18 PM            

I suffered from Anorexia around the age of 17. I have Saturn square my moon (no north node aspects though).

Kindest regards,

posted January 30, 2007 08:36 PM              

Cappyfish - while you don;'t have any direct aspect from Saturn to either moon or NN, you do have NN in Cap in the 10th. That's very intriguing. Thsi also puts your SN in Cancer in the 4th. So you have a strong Saturn-moon connection to your nodal axis.

My theory is this:

Saturn, along with Cap and 10th house, is associated with a personal's image in the eyes of others, discipline and seeking approval.

Saturn is also assocaited with father figure and authority - a source of criticism and judgement.

Anorexia is a form of "discipline" in a way, and also approval-seeking that is unhealthy because it is tied to a poor emotional state and a "dysmorphic" self image. The anorexic is typically over-criticizing of him- or herself.

It seems ot me that the anorexic assumes a sort of distorted Saturn persona in their own minds, telling themselves not to eat, to exercise more, that they're too fat, that they cannot be loved how they are.

I stress this is a *distorted* Saturn persona.

I am looking for links to moon because its connection to food as a source of comfort - a comfort that an anorexic feels unworthy of, just like they feel unworthy of that maternal-like unconditional acceptence and love.

posted January 30, 2007 08:43 PM              

I want to say tho that I go by the equal house system...and my Natal Sun is in 3rd house...it also fits me much more than 4th house. Thats just just my opinion. Whats NN??

posted January 31, 2007 02:33 AM              

I had a bout with this [lasting 6 yrs or so, lowest was 107 at 5'6", not incredibly thin but bad enough] but after giving birth it seems to have turned itself around, now 147 or so [as in now i go to food for comfort esp carbs whereas before id deny myself food to feel more in control and secure]. part of me wants to go back to that way because of how disgusted with myself i am now [fat wise] mostly for efficiency reasons [as in less time to lose it than the healthy way], the other part of me feels like i dont have the willpower that i used to have so why bother. maybe its the libra stellium trying to find balance.

posted January 31, 2007 05:45 AM            

I have Virgo Saturn in the 1st hs conj NN, opposing Moon conj SN. Cap is on the cusp of the 6th hs. I do not suffer from anorexia but feel that I could if I had more will power to reject food. At least I can definitely identify with what you posted:

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The anorexic is typically over-criticizing of him- or herself. ...the anorexic assumes a sort of distorted Saturn persona in their own minds... telling... that they're too fat, that they cannot be loved how they are.

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posted January 31, 2007 02:11 PM              

You seem to be pretty adept at casting and glancing at a horoscope. Would you mind looking at my son's? Nothing more beyond the research that you are doing, and I only would want to know if anything stands out at you regarding any of these aspects.

posted February 01, 2007 02:06 PM              

My brother has anorexia, and he's a Capricorn rising with Saturn in the 1st house.
His Saturn makes a semisextile to his moon. No aspect to NN.

posted February 01, 2007 06:09 PM            

I hated my body was very self conscious and would cover up all the time under big shirts. I would look in the mirror and hated what I saw. With my Virgo Ascendant I could easily pick on the flaws and imperfections of my physical body. I can be self critical to the extreme.

I felt such a failure in every part of my life until I started to lose weight, and when I would get on the scales and see that I had lost weight, I did feel a sense of achievement for the first time in my life.

I did get carried away though and I even when I got to a nice weight and but was still too thin, I would still see parts of my body that still needed perfecting.

Maybe this is what the Saturn connection is all about to anorexia the feeling of achievement and control. When you feel you can't control other parts of your life (which feel chaotic) and you feel a failure. The one thing you can control is your eating and your weight.

I have Venus square Pluto also which could also be about controlling the physical appearance. I read in a psychology book once that one compulsion can often cover up another compulsion/addiction. Anorexia can cover up the compulsion to eat. I also have a Venus opposed Jupiter. I can have a large appetite, my mum used to feed us very big meals when I was younger.

Karen Carpenter (from the Carpenters) who died from anorexia. Has Saturn in Virgo in the 4th house Opposed her Sun Pisces 10th.

She has Cancer on the Asc maybe this makes her oversensitive about her appearance. Her Asc ruler the Moon is Conjunct Pluto so we have the control (Pluto) of weight/body (Cancer/Asc Moon.) she also had Uranus in Cancer 1st so possibly representing the detachment from her food/physical body.