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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 09:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have tried to quit obsessing over my cancer as much, so I haven't been around. But I want to thank Dulce Luna and dividedsky for all of their help on my prior thread (and everyone else who gave input). It really means a lot to me :-)

I have another situation now.

I woke up this morning to find a text message from my cancer saying he is so unhappy. I replied and then played my voice mails and he called multiple times while I was sleeping and left a voice mail, so I sent another text about that. Then I went by his house this morning to give him a hug on the way to work but didn't want to wake anyone, so I just kept driving and sent another text telling him I tried to come by and give him a hug. Now I'm hoping when he wakes up he isn't overwhelmed with the 3 texts. Was that too much? I'm just so worried about him. Haven't heard anything from him yet this morning, but his last call was at 1:15 am, so don't expect he's up yet.

By the way, as of now we are only supposed to be FB's - does him trying to talk to me when he's upset mean anything? He called for about an hour but I didn't wake up. I so much want to be more than FBs. I really care for him. Help! Thanks!

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thedividedsky
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posted February 02, 2007 09:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from what i have found so far.....

the strange breed of cancer male that many of us has been dealing with on this message board...

he seems to need us and want us, but for some reason or another has to hide it in a shroud of "casual" dating. I think mine has even said "casual relationship" which made me laugh on the inside.

The only way i have been dealing with this is to put on my SUPER DUPER protective heart and soul cloak, and go along with it. And i have faltered, just recently, and let my heart come out and his response was....."you have to watch yourself" SO, Just to give you advice from a similar situation, this cancer o mine has brought so much into my life, I am going to swim against the current as long as I can hold my head up. If I really start sinking.......(and i have but then made it through).....i will drop him from my life. Then, it will not be worth it to me anymore.

Mine opened up to me one time and told me that he can "talk a good game"...which to me meant he doesn't always mean what he says.

I think it was good that you responded when he was down, maybe he will realize that you are worth much more than the title he's currerntly giving your relationship.

It seems like three texts and you drove by his house....he should really appreciate that.

I hope he gives you some of that cancer sunshine today and opens up a little as to what his feelings were last night.

Keep us posted.

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thedividedsky
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posted February 02, 2007 09:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, also....

If you want more from this man that just casual stuff, just make sure that he knows that you struggle with those feelings. I think in some strange way they like that........just in case they come around, you will be there for them.

This may be aweful advice....I'm sorry, I could be going about it in the wrong way, but I am as confused as you are with these cancer men.

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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 09:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh thank God you don't think the 3 texts and driving by was too much. I am definitely second-guessing myself over here because the last thing I want to do is scare him away!

I haven't TOLD him I have feelings for him (it's only been 2 months). I didn't want THAT to scare him away either, but I think my actions show that I do.(?)

I sure hope he tells me what was going on. I'm so afraid he will make light of it today and I am kicking myself I didn't wake up to any of his calls last night when he was ready to talk. ACK!

By the way, there's no way the "I'm so unhappy" text could be ABOUT me is there? I sure hope not! The last thing I want is to make him unhappy!

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thedividedsky
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posted February 02, 2007 09:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you call him today and talk?

Hopefully you'll know more then.

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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 09:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I'm at work and it's hard to talk here. In my last text I did tell him to let me know if he wanted to talk to me and I would leave work. I sent texts instead of calling on my way to work bc I didn't want to wake him up.

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posted February 02, 2007 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sag girl-

i think he likes you. but like i said in a previous post-its very tricky-you are going to have to deal with him coming in and out of the shell, skirting sideways, running away. this cycle will repeat itself alot.
i do find it interesting that as a sag you really like him..do you have cancer on your fifth house? as a cancer, i am surrounding by lots of family, friend, and boyfriend who have alot of sag influence in their chart. its almost uncanny. i really like sags very much. do you know what rules his fifth house by chance?

be supportive, but don't let him know he has gotten under your skin..not yet.

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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 10:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW! Yes, I do have cancer in my 5th house - what does that mean? LOL

I don't have an exact birth time, so not sure about his 5th house - BUT I do know he has either a scorpio or sag moon - does that help?

Good because I haven't let him know that yet :-) Though as I said, my actions show I like him. I'm a very affectionate person and we are always loving on each other. Should I hold off on the mushy stuff too or is that okay?????

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Focused Chi
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posted February 02, 2007 10:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think many people miss out on wonderful experiences and relationships becasue they are afraid to express how they feel.

Life is so precious and so short. It is a shame to waste time.

Own your feelings for this guy and share them with him. Be fearless! Be yourself!

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artgirl
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posted February 02, 2007 10:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean what is it with cancer men on this forum??
are half the people obsessing over cancer men?
I mean i thought I am confused and analyzing every move and word its nice to know I am not alone on this quest to conquer a cancer man!!!!!!
I hope they are worth all this **** that we have to go through.............
lol
from my experince don't over text and call too much since that would make them take a step back. they have to be approached with caution and thought so don't do whatever comes to your mind. think it over.

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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 10:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Focused Chi - that's how I USUALLY am. I'm pretty open about my feelings. But with him, I'm afraid it will run him off and I definitely don't want that. I'm gonna TRY to be patient.

artgirl - I KNOW! Cancer men have gotten under so many of our skins!! Ugh! I think they ARE worth it though :-) Oh don't worry, I NEVER call unless I'm returning his call. lol I have texted him, but only a few times in the 2 months we've known each other. Today I was just worried after his message and sent a few at once.

UPDATE: WTF?!! Now he says he's sorry it wasn't like that - he was out with the boys and got drunk and was just horny. WTF?!! Was he so unhappy he couldn't get his rocks off or is he downplaying it now? What do you guys think? I replied with: But you said you were so unhappy - do you just not want to talk about it now?? No reply yet.

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Dew
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posted February 02, 2007 10:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All matters of the heart are decidely tricky for Cancer folk.

It is excrutiatingly difficult for most of us to voice what it is we have in our hearts. For the very fact that words and feelings are really not that synonymous.
I could tell you I like you...but I am feeling a whole lot more than 'like' for you.


And the nore you try and get us to talk about our feelings, the more frustrated and messy a whole affair can be.
So the best thing to do is not to play games....and not be swayed by his game (otherwise he will only end up feeling guilty!!)...and just to carry on with yourself.

Just let him know in no unceratin terms, that you are not interested in games and when he's ready for anything real, to let you know.

Cancerians like straight-forward talk. It cuts through the BS that is their overactive emotions

When we have a tiff, my boyfriend (Sag sun, Taurus moon, Sag merc and venus!!) loves to communicate and try and talk it through butI remain so passive and mute.
But I just need to think.
Though I end up feeling friggin awful about it and frustrated with myself. It becomes a mess.
Whereas when I am given space and no attention is given to my passivity, I am but like a rose

Just be patient with him.
I really hope this helps


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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 10:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Dew! I guess I have been doing everything right then because I NEVER ask how he feels about me. lol Also, when he doesn't call for 4 days I don't contact him. I just let him be and figure he'll come back when he's ready. :-)

UPDATE 2: In reply to my saying but you said you were so unhappy he said: "that must have been one of your other booty calls." WTF ever! LOL I guess he was too drunk to remember even sending that. I wrote back that I'm no w***e lol and don't have any booty calls and then I forwarded him the text he sent me. Awaiting a reply. Oh well, guess he either was just unhappy he couldn't get ahold of me last night, OR he doesn't want to talk about what it was. I won't push him. :-)

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sinderlou
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posted February 02, 2007 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe Focus Chi has a great point. I am in the same boat with a cancer. We are deeply connected and i feel it and he has said that in so many words but he does the "crab dance".

I have learned that you must be yourself. Let him know you care, Let him know you're there, but dont' kiss his butt!

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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks sinderlou!

Well I was really far from "kissing his butt" a little while ago. I have now told him off! LOL Uh oh, our first fight. lol

He had already made the "must have been one of your other booty calls" comment and then after that, he was STILL saying it wasn't him. I forwarded him the message and told him to quit talking about me having booty calls, that it couldn't be farther from the truth and it is p*$$*ng me off. I said you must be talking about yourself.

No reply and that was over an hour ago.

Oh well, I won't be called a w**re (in so many words) and he should know by now I am not one! It was almost 7 months since I had sex before we met and THAT he knows!! WTF?!

So was that REALLY bad to tell him off like that? I couldn't help it - fire in my I guess lol ;-)

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thedividedsky
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posted February 02, 2007 01:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is probably his way of finding out if you have more "guys" like him in your life.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted February 02, 2007 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
don't worry about it. 3 texts definitely aren't too much. he seems vulnerable...but you know it could be the moon. just a few days ago the moon was in cancer, yesterday was a full moon, could've affected him emotionally. he should be feeling better today.

*UPDATE: WTF?!! Now he says he's sorry it wasn't like that - he was out with the boys and got drunk and was just horny. WTF?!! Was he so unhappy he couldn't get his rocks off or is he downplaying it now? What do you guys think? I replied with: But you said you were so unhappy - do you just not want to talk about it now?? No reply yet.*

i think he's just trying to cover it up so he doesn't seem so sensitive.

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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG really do you think so??? I felt like he was calling me a ho! LOL

Shoot - did I mess it all up then? I guess I DID tell him it couldn't be farther from the truth - but then I sort of told him off. lol

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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 01:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
taurean_scorpion - Thanks!!! Yeah, I wondered if it could be the moon, but thought the full moon made them happy/loopy LOL I figured he was just so drunk he doesn't remember what he sent, but maybe he is covering. I've sort of told him off now though, so not sure what will happen now.

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thedividedsky
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posted February 02, 2007 01:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in my experience, the guy was trying to test me out......to see if I was getting action on the side.

This may have been what he was doing....

also, that whole drunk dial thing has even happened to me before!! (i mean i was the one dialing) Then, the next day, I didn't want to admit that I craved the other person, it's kinda embarrasing after the fact.

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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 01:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much thedividedsky! Well, hopefully I thwarted those thoughts since I was even really mad he thought that! LOL

Yeah, I've done it before too and been embarrassed. He did say he was sorry for blowing up my phones last night. lol It's just the "I'm so unhappy" part I don't get.

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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 01:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what does it mean that Cancer is in my fifth house? And does him (possibly) being moon in sag and I'm a sag sun mean much?

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sag_girl
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posted February 02, 2007 03:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I guess I really blew it - he still hasn't replied. Maybe I overreacted, but I don't like him thinking I'm screwing everyone in town. lol Should I just wait?

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luna*tic12
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posted February 02, 2007 03:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeez. It feels really good coming to this thread and realizing that people are going through the same pains as I am dealing with a Cancer man! I think it makes it even more difficult that I am a Cancer myself. Honestly, it all leads me to question whether it's worth all the trouble. It's painful...

SagGirl, I would say don't worry too much about the "i'm so unhappy" comment. It probably has nothing to do with you. Most Cancers are unhappy most of the time, haha, and when dealing with relationships are completely consumed and overwhelmed by their emotions. Thus, unhappiness.
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silverbells
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posted February 02, 2007 08:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sag_girl you did not blow it by getting angry, I hope that you did read the post on the other thread when I advised that you remember that your feelings count too. It is wonderful to be understanding and compassionate towards others but you must be those things to yourself as well. You are allowing him to be himself (boy are you ever!) so you should allow yourself the same RIGHTS. Easier said than done and mind you, I am saying this with so much conviction and confidence - in hindsight but all the same you have to show him who you are and if you are someone who gets p****d when somebody is yanking your chain then he needs to know that. Especially since he is yanking your chain.

Meanwhile, that crap story about drinking with his friends and being horny and that's the only reason he called you is...crap. He might have been horny but you don't call someone for a straight booty call and end up saying that you are unhappy; that's absurd. At most, he drank, he got horny (understandable), then he started to feel vulnerable then some long-ago pain kicked in and he started stewing in it and then he remembered that you guys have an arrangement (that is emotional even if you call it FB) and decided to call you. He couldn't get you so he was forced to confront those feelings rather than dilute them in sex and when that happened he left you the message about being unhappy because he wanted you to help the pain go away and you were not there to do it. In the light of a sober day, he was horrified that he allowed himself that vulnerability in front of you and decided to perform that crazy song and dance about not remembering (Cancers rarely forget). "Maybe that was one of your other booty calls," I agree that he was trying to see if there is anyone else that you have that particular arrangement with because now he is wondering why you didn't answer your phone.
Either way I don't think that all of those text messages were too much. It shows that you care and that you take his feelings very seriously and Cancer really needs that to open up. I do think that he is now thinking about what to say to you next. So leave him to do that in quiet. I think the next thing that he says about this particular situation will let you know what his intentions for this relationship are. If he says something explanatory about it - okay, maybe he's ready, if he tries to play it off - can you handle waiting until he is ready; if he ever is?

That's my opinion I hope that it helps.

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Get some love in your groove, just get hip to forgive... - Michael Franks

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