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Dreamybecca
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posted February 08, 2007 05:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am curious... would you think the chart of this person show anything that describes a manipulative, cold and calculating person?
I don't know the exact time of birth, so I calculated the chart using 12pm. http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=kfwfilepTIf7B-u1101135899&lang=s&gm=a1&nhor=8635364&nho2=432239&btyp=2&mth=at&sday=8&smon=2&syr=2007&hsy=0&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&ast=

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william
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posted February 08, 2007 08:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
chiron's unevolved influence can make one cold and calculating.this individual has chiron square jupiter,mercury and the sun.
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neptune5
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posted February 08, 2007 08:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well since the sun(scorpio) is in the 10th(saturn ruled house) and capricorn is the AC, the person is very driven to the point of being cold and calcuating, and i wouldn't say that shes (indicated by Venus by 'it') cold to the point of no return, because...heres what i noticed;

2nd cusp pisces, neptune in 11th, neptune semi-sextile chiron, it may not be a major aspect but small things matter to some extent.

i didn't want to admit it, but i was rather curious about what field this person may have been considering, due to the 5 planet stellium in the 10th, but i guess its none of my business. Unless you know and want to tell...

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Ling
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posted February 08, 2007 09:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have chiron square sun and moon. Calculative? I dun know... I might seem calculative in friends' eyes?

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william
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posted February 08, 2007 09:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ling,
the calculating nature is more obvious with the mercury connection.with your positions it might manifest just as being goal oriented or not liking to deal with frivolous
people or situations.
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Ling
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posted February 08, 2007 11:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx william,

always like your interpretation, right on target.

love,
ling

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Kamots
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posted February 09, 2007 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kamots     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Cold" as in "fear of emotional intimacy" ->
Moon square Saturn
"Manipulative" -> Moon square Pluto and Sun conjunct Venus sometimes result in that.
"Calculating" -> Moon in Aquarius says she is rational and detached about her emotions, although they are deep (Pluto square) and the Sun-Mercury conjunction says she's cerebral.

Overall It looks like a Bordeline personality, due to the emphasis on Uranus/Aquarius and Pluto/Scorpio on the chart. She should be a very deep but unstable person (Sun conjunct Uranus), with an unstable way of relating (Venus conjunct Uranus) who could use control (Scorpio, Capricorn/10th house emphasis and the Moon-Pluto and Moon-Saturn aspects) as her primary defense mechanism. Watch out for comunication problems, cause Mercury in Scorpio people keep their thoughts and decisions secret and many expect you to guess what they need...

Has she ever shown you vulnerability? I would be very surprised if she had.

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Bucketrider
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posted February 09, 2007 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think chiron has anything to do with being calculating. Chiron is involved in healing, love and extraordinariness of things and times. Being calculating would be more saturn and pluto. Specifically, sun, moon, mercury and possibly venus in aspect to saturn or pluto.

A saturn aspected person would be more measured and practical - and in my experience, obvious in their calculatingness.

A pluto aspected person would be much more hidden and harder to discern. Saturn is more straightforward, pluto is more manipulative and coercive.

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Happy Dragon
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posted February 09, 2007 11:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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just a btw. note re. his chart ..

transiting Saturn is working over his Scorpio and Taurus placements ..
scorpio .. jupiter/sun/mercury and MC
taurus .. chiron and IC.

with it's current placement in leo it will be squaring that lot ..
and .. it will reach his MC/IC by its current retrograde movement ..
( by ..18th april 2007 .. it will be at 18 leo .. and about to go direct once more )

so .. maybe coming across as a bit colder than usual .. ??
or Saturn .. by transit .. is bringing forth the coldness .. ??
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~ transiting Saturn summary ~
Dec. 6th 2006 .. saturn went retrograde at 25.Leo ..
saturn is now at 21.Leo and still retrograde
by18th April 2007 .. it will be at 18.Leo .. and about to go direct once more ..
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Dreamybecca
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posted February 11, 2007 05:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Feedback tomorrow... I am so sleepy now It is late over here!
Thank you for your comments, I really appreciate them!
Good night guys!

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Dreamybecca
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posted February 18, 2007 08:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry I couldn't reply you before, I have had a difficult week... I explained it a bit in another post by me, the one about the Taurus guy.
Well, I posted this person't chart (yes, it is a girl), because she is a coworker of mine, she has been working in my department for a year, and basically she is not a good person at all. It is hard to explain why exactly, but she is a really bad influence there, she creates confrotations among people, she manipulates people to get what she wants or to escape from trouble by blaming other people, etc, etc, etc.
She is very cunning, and the situation is getting worse and worse and some of us can't stand it anymore
Some of us are a bit desparate...

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