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Topic: Houses-synastry
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 15, 2007 09:09 AM
I always thought houses are very important in synastry, and since I think house-placements and sign-placements are comparable (for example a 5th house moon resembles a leo-moon; they are not the same, of course not, but similiar), I calculated on which exact housedegrees my planets fell, like we do it with the signs.I found this out: Sun: 16° 1st (Aries) house Moon: 24° 2nd (Taurus) house Mercury: 15° 1st (Aries) house Venus: 25° 1st (Aries) house Mars: 25° 12th (Pisces) house I was quite surprised and amazed, when I realized, that my houseplacements resemble the sign placements of my first love, who made an everlasting impression on me.
He has got: Sun: 16° Aries Moon: 24° Taurus MErcury: 08° Aries (not conjunct my housedegree-Mercury, but the sign-house-connection is still there) Mars: 20° Pisces Only his Venus falls into another sign: 03° Taurus (still quite close to my 1st house Venus). His planets in sign apparently reflect almost perfectly my house-placements. I found that very interesting, even though I`m not sure how to interprete it. But I compared my "house-chart" to some of my crushes or loves, and they all had tight conjunctions or oppositions from planet-to house or from house-to-house to my horoscope. No exceptions. Those comparisions even explained some strange synastry. There was one man, I felt very vehemently drawn to, even though it was only a shortlived attraction; but as long as it lasted it was hot, magnetic, very energetic and enthusiastic, even though we were constantly fighting and arguing; it was like in the saying: opposites attract; but there were no strong synastry-aspects, and certainly no oppositions. There were some nice aspects like Sun-Moon-trine and some others, but they were very soft and nice, and didn´t really explain this experience. But now, in housesynastry, his Venus opposite my house-Venus, his Mars opposite my house Sun HIs Sun opposite my house Mars Especially the Sun-Mars-opposition (HIs Virgo-Sun opposite my 12th house-Mars, and his Libra-Mars opposite my 1st house- Sun) feel so right and on spot, like I`ve rarely experienced it. But I would like to know if anyone here experienced similiar things. Does the "house-synastry" show some important connections in your synastry? And has anyone an idea how to interprete it? DD IP: Logged |
EarthyEthereal unregistered
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posted February 15, 2007 11:25 AM
Hey, DD: I've wondered about the same thing, especially of late. I met a guy back in the fall when I was overseas for a couple of weeks. It was instant attraction, and not just below the belt. In my thirty-plus years of life, that's never happened to me before. (I'm not the "love-at-first-sight" type.)When I came back home, I looked up his planets. He has a stellium in Sagittarius: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, and Neptune. My Sun is in the 9th house natally, along with my Saturn. (He's entering the initial stages of his first Saturn Return. His Saturn's in Virgo, which is the sign on my 1st house cusp.) He has Venus in Scorpio; I have Venus in Aries, in the 8th house natally. I have Sag on my 4th house cusp, with Mars in that sign and house. Not quite what your question referred to, since his Mars is not in Cancer. But I think you definitely have a valid point about the houses and synastry. My Sun is in Taurus, but I can really relate to a lot of Sagittarian traits and values. Neither of us has had much difficulty with the long distance/space... very Sag. If I knew my guy's time of birth, I could discuss this in greater detail. (I'm still learning, so the whole degrees thing has me a bit flummoxed.)
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astrolog unregistered
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posted February 15, 2007 12:49 PM
Your sun signs are in conjunction, your Mars's also in conjunction. This means you must have a very powerful sexual attraction. I think these are very good combinations. In synastry Sun and Moon, Mars Mars, Mars Venus aspects are very important. Your are quite good for my opinion.
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 15, 2007 03:47 PM
Hi Earthy Ethereal;ah yes, I know something about a stellium in Sagittarius. I myself have one; Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune, NOrthern Node and AC in Sagittarius. And as I mentioned above I have a lot of planets in the 1st house (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Neptune, and Mars is only 2° before the AC), and I`ve often wondered why on earth I`m so magnetically drawn to Aries-types, preferably with Aries-sun or Aries-Moon. So I definitely think there is a connection, a familiarity between sign-house-placements. And you just confirmed that. Your Sun in 9th house must sometimes really feel like a Saggy-sun, just in a Taurus-way. And your Venus in Aries in 8th house; (wow, that looks like a very passionate combo); I`m not surprised you`re drawn to a Scorpio-Venus. Also your Venus in Aries would be quite compatible to all his Sagittarius-planets. I have always felt that we are often drawn to people, which sign-placements match our planets in houses, or vice versa. But I was quite surprised to find out that even the degrees match in so many of my synastries. There`s one man, who has been haunting my life for over 2 years now. There are some nice synastry contacts (Sun conjunct Venus; Moon conjunct Uranus; Venus conjunct Mars / Node / AC; Mars conjunct Mars and others), but when I looked at the houses-signs-relationship, it was like an epiphany. His Pluto is in the 9th house, my Sun is in Sagittarius; my Pluto is in the 10th house, his Sun is in Capricorn. And if I look at the house-degrees; his house-Pluto is almost exactly conjunct my Sun in Sagittarius, and my house Pluto is also conjunct his Sun in Capricorn. (well, we already have both our Plutos in Libra square that sweet little Sun-Venus-conjunction in Capricorn). As I said, this isn`t love, this is obsession, and I guess I desperately need a cure. lol The interesting thing is that, although the Pluto in libra square Sun and Venus is a generational thing; that doesn´t apply to house-positions, since they change so quickly. So, those two Sun-Pluto-connections from sign to house, may even b3e more important, or at least more individual, than the generational Pluto-aspects. DD
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EarthyEthereal unregistered
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posted February 15, 2007 08:24 PM
DD--that Sun/Pluto connection between you and the Capricorn fellow sounds very "Plutonian." Doesn't Pluto *always* seem to be involved when we're obsessed with someone or something? It can be hard to let go, especially if you're second-guessing a past decision. Somehow, it will all work out the way it's meant to--one way or another.Geez, I thought my first house was busy! Yours is packed, and with a real stellium (I have a "semi-stellium"--three planets, one of them being out of sign). In a fire sign AND a fire house, they must be extra active. Thanks again for raising a very interest point about the involvement of house placements in synastry. Now, whenever I examine friends' charts, I'll be paying more attention to that than I used to.
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Cappadora Newflake Posts: 0 From: Sacramento, CA, USA Registered: Sep 2009
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posted February 16, 2007 10:44 PM
Just out of curiousity, how does one calculate the 'house degree' of a planet?My guess is that you divide the number of sign degrees in a house by 30, and then use result as one single degree size for that house. Then you count how many of these calculated 'house degrees' there are between the house cusp and the planet...and this gives you the planet's house degree... Is this the correct way to work out the house degrees in your chart? This sounds like a fascinating topic and I'd love to explore it more... IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 17, 2007 04:13 AM
Cappadora,yes, I think you got it right. 1.You divide the number of degrees, your house has, through 30, and that number equals 1° in sign. 2.Then you count how many degrees your planet is from the cusp of the house. 3. Finally you divide the number of step 2 through the number of step 1. For example: 1. My 1st house is 35°; so one house-degree equals about 1,16°. 2. My Sun is 19° from the housecusp. So I have the calculation: 19: 1,16 = 16° 3. My Sun is on the 16° in the 1st house. Well, you can make it even easier; just go to astro.com. Click extended chart. Go to web-default-chart; there choose Huber-house-chart (but pay attention, which housesystem is chosen; because Huber works with Koch; I for my part prefer Placidus; but you can choose whatever Housesystem you like, I guess). If you go to the additional tables, there is one column with the title "house-degree", just next to the houseplacements. So you can spare yourself a lot of calculation-work. If you have a look at those house-comparisions, would you let me know, if you find out something interesting? IP: Logged |
EarthyEthereal unregistered
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posted February 17, 2007 07:19 PM
I hear what you're saying about not wanting someone there constantly. I mean, if you spend every waking moment together, what's left to share? "Hey, honey! How was your day? Oh, never mind, you already know how it was, 'cause you were with me the whole time. In fact, you're *always* with me." Talk about dull. Being a Sag, you will always need space to move and breath. There's nothing wrong with that. Seems like you and your friend with the Libra placements help to balance each other out big-time. Funny how we all attract people like that--"balancers"-- into our respective spheres, eh? Pluto synastry connections can be tough, but they're never boring. Are you still in touch with the Capricorn guy? It's so hard to forget someone when you still move in the same social circles. I hope that if your heart has not yet recovered, it will recover in the not-so-distant future.
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 20, 2007 05:38 AM
Earthy Ethereal,yes, you are so right. I need time for myself, space to breathe.
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EarthyEthereal unregistered
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posted February 20, 2007 09:34 PM
Hey DD: Whether you choose the Cappy, the new guy, or neither, I sincerely hope you'll find lasting happiness in your choice. (I guess that's always the main objective, for each of us.)
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comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 21, 2007 08:10 PM
interesting.. ^_^ I noticed that kind of stuffs in the synastry between me and my bf as well..My Sun at 8th house: his Sun at Scorpio My Moon at 8th house: his Moon in Pisces His Sun at 9th house: my Sun in Aries His Moon at 1st house: my Moon in Aries maybe planets being at a watery house helps a bit at understanding water signs, as well as planets being at a fire house helps a bit at understanding fire signs lol.. but it's still kinda curious how some things fits like this lol.. IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1277 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted February 28, 2007 02:57 AM
DD - I also think houses are very important in synastry and I think you've developed an interesting method for interpretation. When I apply your method to my and my bf's charts, my house-Sun conjuncts his natal Sun. His house-Venus conjuncts my Descendant. Actually I'm seeing a number of aspects, including a double whammy of house-Mars conjuncting the other's Moon. I'm a Sag Sun and Leo Moon, but when I apply your method to my chart, I'm a Taurus Sun and Cappy Moon, which just so happen to be my bf's natal placements. It's funny that I have his aspects because recently I learned of Draconic charts, and in my bf's Draconic chart he has my aspects, with his Draconic Sag Sun conjuncting my natal sun and his Draconic Leo Moon conjuncting my natal moon. Ah, so many charts such little time. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted March 11, 2007 01:55 PM
Jane,yes, that is exactly what I was talking about. There are sometimes really amazing connections, when you include the houses. And it can enlighten some of the interactions you wouldn`t understand otherwise. For example: I know a couple who has no Moon-Venus-aspects, but they are very much emotionally attracted to each other, nurture each other, are caring and tender and just absolutely sweet with each other, even though sometimes he does care too much for her taste. She isn`t used to being cared for this way, has had a history of being rejected whenever she needed someone, and therefor she always tries to play the strong, reasonable, diplomatic one, because shed oesn`t want to trouble anyone. And he teaches her to talk about her feelings, takes her seriously and just pampers her a bit. It all oozes Moon-Venus, but there was no Venus-Moon aspect in the normal synastry. But he has a 3rd house Moon and she has a 6th house Venus, and if I calculate the housedegrees, his house Moon and her house Venus are exactly opposite. Voila! I also noticed similiar interactions like you described them, that one partner`s signs reflect the other partner`s houses. Very interesting, and probably it makes it easier to understand each other. DD
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