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phoenix1111
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posted February 17, 2007 10:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I couldn't paste our charts (mine and my unborn childs father)- so I have typed out the info from astro.com. If I could have some help from those here who have more understanding , I would appreciate it! I have been interested in astrology for awhile, but still don't understand degrees and the specifics- thanks!

Is there anything here that particularly says whether he will be a good father or not? I am very interested in that, and How do we compare as a couple? and what determines this? Thank you. I have read all of Linda's books, but I am still trying to understand details.

Me
Sun 11 Scorpio 29'15"
Asc Leo
Moon 17 Gemini 55'22"
Mercury 1 Scorpio 58'45"
Venus 11 Scorpio 31'45"
Mars 2 Capricorn 27'17"
Jupiter 18 Scorpio 48'42"
Saturn 27 Libra 8'44"
Uranus 3 Sagittarius28'51"
Neptune 25 Sagittarius11'43"
Pluto 27 Libra 26'46"
T.Node 5 Cancer 31'36"
Chiron 25 Taurus 54"5'r

Him:
Sun 10 Capricorn 1'52"
ASC Scorpio
Moon 6 Capricorn 35'32"
Mercury 27 Capricorn 55'19"
Venus 29 Scorpio 47'17"
Mars 17 Gemini 17'2"r
Jupiter 15 Aries 33'32"
Saturn 1 Leo 2'7"r
Uranus 6 Scorpio 23'38"
Neptune 12 Sagittarius 32'18"
Pluto 11 Libra 39'35"
T.Node 20 Scorpio 49' 2"
Chiron 23 Aries 35'21"r

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phoenix1111
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posted March 03, 2007 12:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

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AcousticGod
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posted March 03, 2007 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn is the father of the zodiac.

No one can really predict how he will turn out to be as a father, and I'd say that Capricorn fathers can run the gamut.

My first instinct is that your man will be somewhat authoritarian. My reasoning is due to the triple Capricorn influence plus the Scorp ascendant. Capricorn is ruled by Saturn, and Saturn deals with discipline, structure, and restriction. Scorpio energy is a little similar to Capricorn in that it brings a bit of gravity to the personality.

Having his ascendant in Scorpio he may have these Capricorn placements in the 2nd house. If he's got a few planets in the 2nd house it should bode well for his finances I would think.

I notice that he has Sun Square Jupiter:
Sun square Jupiter
A square formed between the Sun and Jupiter shows that you are the kind of person who takes on more than is expected. You may lack moderation in much you do. In many ways, you're an extremist. You expect too much of yourself and sometimes you expect too much of other. Yet you always have the good intentions. Full of vitality, you know how to have a good time if you let yourself go. Even if your nature is sober, this aspect provides a certain verve and good spirit. There is a lot of the wheeler-dealer in this aspect, as an expansiveness marks your nature. The negative side of this aspect is that self-indulgence may cause physical problems. Food (especially rich foods), drink, and pleasure must be balanced by moderation with sufficient rest. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html

I also notice the Sun Opposite Pluto:
Sun opposition Pluto
The opposition of the Sun and Pluto shows a defensive attitude when challenged by others. You have a compulsive power drive that creates an aura of forcefulness. There can be resentment and defiance in your temperament. You may experience difficulties getting along with others until you learn not to be so assertive and defensive when you feel the slightest sense of threat. You must handle situations better when others disagree with your position. This aspect is usually subject to undergo major changes at sometime in life when a psychological realignment occurs. When this happens you become more self-assured and tolerant of others. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html

Capricorns are resourceful people, so he can be what he wants to be with regard to being a father. There's just no guarantee.

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phoenix1111
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posted March 05, 2007 11:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Acousticgod for your help. It definatly sounds like him. I am having a hard time with him right now.

If you don't mind, how do our charts fiqure as far as in a relationship? I read in Relationship signs that he and I , our Sun's both square each others Saturns, and that our bond will be impossible to break. I can't stand him alot of the time, and then there are times when I completely admire and adore him. I never have been like this with anybody because I am usually not wishy-washy with anyone or anything, but he is the one exception. Do we look doomed? Curious for someone else's insight!

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william
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posted March 06, 2007 02:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi phoenix,
wow have you got a problem.it is a classic lover hate relationship but he has the upper hand emptionally.
the composite chart shows a venus/uranus conjunction,with venus trine to mars.you are deeply,entranced,enchanted in lust/love with this guy.the venus/uranus aspect brings intense sexuality with "seeing god" during sex[see the OzMeg thread].the mars trine venus bring a bit more stability to the emotional/sexual connection but not enough to keep your head out of the clouds all the time.
unfortunately ,the composite also has a sun/neptune midpoint conjunct mercury and exactly square the saturn.this is flatout emotional pain.first off the neptune element means he is totally insincere,if not a outright liar.he changes stories ,invents stories and you accept these because of lust/love.the saturn element shows depression over this and indicates that he says mean things to attack your self-esteem.he is mean and heartless from my viewpoint.plus the neptune element indicates that meds/alcohol are a intergral part of the relationship,furthuring chaining your ability to see what he is up to.
the venus/mars midpoint is square to pluto.this brings brutal sexuality into the mix,the opposite of the intense sexual love of the venus/uranus.this is hardcore sex for his gratisfaction.this is a pain and pleasure couple of aspects.it seems to me,he plays games with your head to keep you in a emotional/sexual subservience to him.with out knowing the houses the exact nature of the experience is not possible.i sorry if a offend you,but it would not surprise me if he wanted to put you on the street because this is a very unhealthy emotional/sexual relationship.
william

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phoenix1111
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posted March 06, 2007 07:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi William,
Thanks very much for your interpretation. You confirmed my biggest fears, and that's ok. I always try to search for the truth. Much of what you wrote are definatly thoughts I have. I do not feel like he lies when I am looking deep into his eyes. But when he plays the disappearing act on me like most typical Capricorns (from what I've heard) Thats when I start to worry I am being made a fool of and my deep emotions are wasteful and for nothing.

It's ironic that you said you wouldn't be surprised if he decided to put me on the street, because he doesn't care about me being pregnant. He hasn't tried to contact me at all. I wanted to know about him being a father because I couldn't help but think he didn't have anything to do with it because I am pregnant and the baby is not here yet. I hope he will be a father, that is really the big desire.

As far as the meds/alchohol, were you talking about him or me? Because I am really just a social drinker, and of course not now,
How can you find the houses you were talking about? What exactly does that tell you? Sexually, he has always been a gentle, slow and passionate lover. I am usually the one who gets fired up! lol

Well, now that I know this- how do I deal with him? As far as being a father, can anyone tell if he will be involved, care or take on this responsibility? Can astrology tell us that?

oh, and you were talking about some aspect meaning "seeing god" during the O, giving a psychic sense that there is some other will at work? What exactly do you mean by that? Do you mean there is another will at work, or just the feeling that there is, or is this just what this particular aspect does. Or for that matter, would an aspect that makes you feel that way mean it?

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william
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posted March 06, 2007 07:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you need to post the houses which come with the chart a astro.com
william

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phoenix1111
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posted March 06, 2007 09:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does this help?

Him:
Houses (Plac.) Declination
Asc. Scorpio 7°54’ 8" 14° 8’41" S
2 i 6°50’48" 21°27’15" S
3 j 9°21’28" 23° 6’37" S
ICk 13°53’54" 16°39’25" S
5 l 16°36’48" 5°17’ 4" S
6 a 14°38’48" 5°46’23" N
Desc. b 7°54’ 8" 14° 8’41" N
8 c 6°50’48" 21°27’15" N
9 d 9°21’28" 23° 6’37" N
MC e 13°53’54" 16°39’25" N
11 f 16°36’48" 5°17’ 4" N
12 g 14°38’48" 5°46’23" S

Me:
Houses (Plac.) Declination
Asc. leo 19°34’19" 14°57’ 0" N
2 13°26’35" 6°30’33" N
3 g 11°47’53" 4°39’56" S
IC h 14°20’ 8" 16° 8’30" S
5 i 18°16’44" 22°55’27" S
6 j 20°25’20" 21°53’19" S
Desc.19°34’19" 14°57’ 0" S
8 l 13°26’35" 6°30’33" S
9 a 11°47’53" 4°39’56" N
MC b 14°20’ 8" 16° 8’30" N
11 c 18°16’44" 22°55’27" N
12 d 20°25’20" 21°53’19" N

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