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Green Fairy unregistered	posted February 18, 2007 11:31 AM Is it a good or bad aspect? and is it stronger than a conjunction? Is there any other aspect that is stronger than a conjunction? i am not talking about healthy relationships IP: Logged
libraschoice7 Knowflake Posts: 174 From: the city so nice they named it twice! Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 18, 2007 01:55 PM I guess if you had this aspect with someone, the attraction would be so strong you almost couldn't see straight, Venus/Pluto together is strong enough(even soft connections sextile or trine). It would be difficult to seperate yourself from such intense feelings, being completely subjective would be hard...I wouldn't say it's stronger than a conjunction, but definitely more toxic. Kind of like someone having a psycho-sexual spell over you ------------------ Sun in Libra Moon in Cancer Jupiter in Cancer Venus in Virgo Mars in Cancer Ascendant in Cancer I "FEEL" therefor I am IP: Logged
Alisa unregistered	posted February 18, 2007 02:07 PM For me, I feel that quindecile is stronger than conjunction since it makes me obssessive. For Venus quindecile Pluto, I had it with a guy. I do not know his feeling since it is his pluto so I cannot tell much. However, for the same guy, my Moon quindecile his Sun. I had a lotssssss of quindecile aspects with this guy. I was so obsessive with him The feeling was too much, I think. Alisa IP: Logged
Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered	posted February 18, 2007 03:12 PM Are you sure? I keep seeing Quindecile listed as a minor easy aspect. IP: Logged
libraschoice7 Knowflake Posts: 174 From: the city so nice they named it twice! Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 18, 2007 03:14 PM Mabe for some people, the feeling is different for everyone. lol ------------------ Sun in Libra Moon in Cancer Jupiter in Cancer Venus in Virgo Mars in Cancer Ascendant in Cancer I "FEEL" therefor I am IP: Logged
libraschoice7 Knowflake Posts: 174 From: the city so nice they named it twice! Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 18, 2007 03:24 PM I decided to wear my hair down today...why you ask? Because that's what feels good to me, some things feel good while other things don't same goes for aspects I personally think Venus/Pluto feels VERY good being a quindecile or not ------------------ Sun in Libra Moon in Cancer Jupiter in Cancer Venus in Virgo Mars in Cancer Ascendant in Cancer I "FEEL" therefor I am IP: Logged
Green Fairy unregistered	posted February 18, 2007 04:58 PM I don't think i ever considered the V/P trines and sextiles that great.. guess i was wrong. IP: Logged
Venus De Milo Knowflake Posts: 267 From: the planet of love Registered: Jul 2009	posted February 19, 2007 12:47 AM GF, I had the Venus/Pluto quindecile with that guy I constantly talk about... quick recap... he tore my heart out and stomped it to a pulp during the retrograde last year... In the meantime, I employed a few shady tactics to find out information on him... he is soooooooo secretive... and I found out a lot of dirt and it help me get over him, although... I am still bitter... but I've gotten past those suffocating, helpless, hopeless feelings of un requited love... Anyhow, in the Venus/Pluto quindecile... I am Pluto and he is Venus. You know... through this whole thing, I got very disillusioned with astrology.... but after the events of the past week or two, I am realizing astrology is RIGHT, even when it doesn't seem right! OK... we have super intense aspects in both synastry and the composite... especially with Pluto and Venus. We have the quindecile and also.. his OPluto sits almost exact on my ASC and his Venus sits on my vertex and forms a wide conjunction with my DC! Anyway... check this out... since you wanna know how this quindecile works in real life (or at least my experience of it)... when we met 2 years ago it was the most amazing experience of my life. I was completely swept off my feet. I thought he was amazing. We met while I was separated from my husband. I thought I had absolutely found the one. I thought he felt the same. Then he very suddenly backed off and stopped talking to me. I assumed it was one-sided, I was devastated... beyond devastated. At the time, I was travelling a lot for work and we started talking again a month later... but we were both wary... plus, there was the tyranny of distance. Then I reconciled with my husband. Fast forward to Summer of 06 and I'm separating again (divorce came final on the 1st of Feb! yaaayyy!!)... I tell him, since we maintained a friendship, that I'm divorcing. He comes on full throttle... through this whole time, he's always told me he would regret for the rest of his life screwing things up with me, he would constantly make allusions that i was the one that got away etc etc. Anyway, he told me he loved me, completely floored me... and then backed off again, ripped my heart to pieces a second time. I thought he didn't care. Fast forward to November of 06. I am being completely estalked. A week ago... I find out who it is... guess who it is??? It's him. Apparently he went batshit crazy when I made my myspace private in November... he'd been keeping tabs on me via myspace... and then I made it private and he lost it and started employing dirty tactics to get into my email and my accounts. The funny thing is, I know all about what I know about him because I had been snooping in his email too... this whole time. I knew everything that was going on... and also, I can be very sneaky... I know people in his world that he doesn't know that I know... and I would gather info on him. Anyway... I know a lot of crap he has no idea that I know. We are talking, but I am angry. All this was so unnecessary... he has a real communication problem.. and... I'm not interested in him, because I'm deathly afriad of letting him into my headspace. He says he thought I didn't want to talk to him anymore... because I left an angry voicemail and then deleted him and his band from myspace the next day... The funny thing is, he still doesn't know I can read his email... I don't want him to know how much he's affected me and how much psychic energy I've expended on him and how many tears I've shed... frankly, I'm embarrassed that I was so consumed by him... But yes... venus/pluto quindecile... and lots of other Venus/Pluto action on the Vertex and angles... Toxic... yes. It feels like a drug addiction to me and I'm not even the Venus... I can't believe he's been estalking me... but I'm too scared to talk to him too much because of how strongly I felt in the past... I need to keep him at length, I CANNOT get caught up again. I left out a lot of details because this post is so long, if I gave you all the details, it would truly be a freaking novel!!! IP: Logged
Green Fairy unregistered	posted February 19, 2007 07:33 AM Ehmm.. WOW(the only thing i can say right now) blushes IP: Logged
Alisa unregistered	posted February 19, 2007 05:42 PM I am the venus person. However, I was so obsessive with the relationship too. I thought of him every minute for 21 months! Frankly speaking, if I find Venus/Pluto quindecile aspect with any new guys, I would be scared to enter into relationship. It was very amazing experience when we were happy together but it was too tortured feeling when we were apart. IP: Logged
CoralFrequency Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2009	posted February 19, 2007 06:57 PM 1st guy (Pisces) � My Pluto quindecile his Venus at 0 deg/ His Pluto opposite my Venus 3 deg 2nd guy (Libra) � His Venus conjunct my Pluto � 0 deg 3rd guy (not a bf) - Leo � His Pluto opposite my Venus 1 deg/ My Pluto trine his Venus 4 deg 4th (and current) � Sag � His Pluto opposite my Venus 1 deg/ My Pluto conjunct his Venus 3 deg Add to that all the guys I've known born in my year and the previous year, since I have Venus opposite Pluto in natal. I get it! Believe me, I do get it! lol but.. One thing that bothers me about Venus/Pluto threads is that it's always the woman who I hear about getting hurt whether she is Venus or Pluto.. so I'm not so sure these days whether it's astrology or the nature of a certain cluster of homo sapien males when encountered with strong sexual attraction that they can't handle/don't know what to do with/are afraid of etc. As you see, I've had multiple Venus/Pluto interactions and only ONE ended bad in similar patterns to what's been described. The other guys were more balanced or happy I guess.. because they weren't scared out of their wits about it. Plus, there are always other aspects that can make this better or worse.. For instance, a Mars square Sun makes it much worse.. whereas a Jupiter conjunct Venus makes it (made it) much better. IP: Logged
libraschoice7 Knowflake Posts: 174 From: the city so nice they named it twice! Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 19, 2007 07:07 PM But Coralfrequency what if you have a double whammy Mars/Sun along with a Venus/Pluto, do you really think it's too much to handle? ------------------ Sun in Libra Moon in Cancer Jupiter in Cancer Venus in Virgo Mars in Cancer Ascendant in Cancer I "FEEL" therefor I am IP: Logged
Dulce Luna Newflake Posts: 7 From: The Asylum, NC Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 19, 2007 07:21 PM quote: One thing that bothers me about Venus/Pluto threads is that it's always the woman who I hear about getting hurt whether she is Venus or Pluto.. so I'm not so sure these days whether it's astrology or the nature of a certain cluster of homo sapien males when encountered with strong sexual attraction that they can't handle/don't know what to do with/are afraid of etc. In that case I would look at the entire synastry because I've heard and do believe (due to real life "cases"..LOL) that the person who's outerplanets is aspected more (and it has to be like alot more) than the other person's usually has the upperhand in the relationship. But that's just my observation...and wherever else I read it from. IP: Logged
cristiname Knowflake Posts: 66 From: Earth. Welcome! Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 20, 2007 11:40 AM the quindecile is an obssession aspect. Pluto is about control and power and Venus is about values/resources and relationships. So - natally, it would suggest a compulsive attraction to love-hate relationships, in which one controls the other, power-games, etc. no - certainly not healthy ones. compulsive means that it is very strong, almost automatic, but also that the true motives differ from the direct ones. eg: you get involved with an abusive lover not bc you love him/her but bc it feels good to be 'punished/controled/put down or vice-versa - it feels good when you are the one doing it. of course, the true motive is that you fear not being loved/lovable, not being strong enough or fear of being controled/manipulated. so you pretend to feel strong by acting out your fears. so it is a dangerous aspect - one you need to become aware of and tame. in a conj, one cannot differentiate between the nergies involved. power=love (pluto conj venus) IP: Logged
Venus De Milo Knowflake Posts: 267 From: the planet of love Registered: Jul 2009	posted February 20, 2007 08:47 PM quote: the person who's outerplanets is aspected more (and it has to be like alot more) than the other person's usually has the upperhand in the relationship. his saturn is opposed my moon. i, very prfoundly feel frozen out and ignored by him. i always felt like he has the upperhand and i'm taking any scraps of attention he would throw at me. whether he actually does have the upperhand... i don't know... my saturn is opposed his sun in synastry too. this "relationship" (if you could call it that) has been a CONSTANT power struggle. It's exhausting. Right now we are exchanging emails and I reject his calls. I will not let him into my headspace. I'm terrified of him. I mean, this is a man who told me he still loved me via text mesage and I nearly crashed my car, I was shaking and felt dizzy. i had to sit down and BREATHE. He has too much power over me and I know once I give in a little... it's a slippery slope and even though i loathe him (or try to)... I'm scared because I know how much I adored him and how easy it would be to feel that way again. So i have to put up a fortress. A barricade. Figuratively, think of it like discussing something with a gun, locked and loaded and pointed at them the whole time. Anything less will make me vulnerable. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 63580 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted June 12, 2011 02:57 PM interesting thread quindeciles IP: Logged
NikiVenus6 Knowflake Posts: 205 From: Mumbai Registered: May 2015	posted June 18, 2015 10:38 AM quindecile is an obsessive compulsive aspect and I know it because my sister has it between venus and pluto. It is a pathetic aspect to have if you can't handle the energy. But being a Plutonic person helps. Mars Pluto quindecile is another one. If you have Mars and Pluto opposition along with a quindecile of Venus Pluto then you will never sleep peacefully at night. It is always a rumbling tumbling energy which seeks an outlet. IP: Logged
ash20 Knowflake Posts: 794 From: Registered: Mar 2013	posted June 23, 2015 07:46 PM What is Venus sesquiquadrate Pluto like? I have this exact in my chart and my love life is very frustrating but thought it was just because of my Venus Mars square. Also have Mars sesquiquadrate Pluto at 1 degree orb. Even though they're supposed to be minor aspects how would it play out? Is it obsessive too? Because I always get that way in relationships... IP: Logged
Seimei Knowflake Posts: 603 From: n2thedust Registered: Apr 2015	posted July 17, 2015 12:00 AM --- IP: Logged
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 894 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011	posted July 20, 2015 08:13 PM I work extensively with this aspect series in my rectification work, and it has proved to be 'major' at least progressed aspects when exact within 004' orb. quote: Originally posted by Green Fairy: Is it a good or bad aspect? No aspect is good or bad. Rather, it is what you do with its energies that is good or bad. quote: and is it stronger than a conjunction? No. quote: Is there any other aspect that is stronger than a conjunction? Conjunctions and parallels are strong, but some of us argue that squares are more driving -- all other things being equal (like orbs and planets involved). For clarity's sake, let's be clear about what we are talking about. The term quindecile when used consistently with other astrological parlance would indicate an aspect of 24-degrees (dividing the zodiac by 15). But you are probably referring to the 165-degree aspect, which has become a more touted type of quindecile (Latin: 5 + 10 = 15). When the term is used in this way, it actually refers to all aspects of the odd 15-degree series not already named (like semi-square/45, sesquisquare/135). So it can refer to an aspect of 15, 75, 105, or 165-degrees. I do not buy the notion that this aspect of 165 = "obsession." This has been over-played by Noel Tyl's student, Ricki Reeves, and a simple survey of Tyl's web page on the topic starts revealing some data/control problems. I won't go into that, but I am putting up a web page at some point based on an in-depth look into these aspects. I will probably wait until I can read Reeve's book The Quindecile* with an eye to critical analysis. What I will say about interpreting this aspect is: 1.) It is a minor aspect, but can play a major role in progressions. 2.) It is part of the 15-degree series that forms all 30-degree aspects and is similar to the square, but less intense. Similar in vibration, but lower in amplitude. 3.) As with any other aspect, interpreting it depends on the planets involved. Keep in mind that unless someone is a member of NCGR and runs their research through them or a similar group for peer review, a peer review process only happens once readers can get a published work out. In the field of astrology publishing tends to be used for self-promotion rather than for peer review. ------------------ Cutting Edge Astrology, Declinations, Rectifcation Complete rising sign descriptions IP: Logged
ash20 Knowflake Posts: 794 From: Registered: Mar 2013	posted July 23, 2015 08:37 AM quote: Originally posted by Seimei: NOW, being aware that ' you can get that way' CAN you now change that? Surely there is a positive to counter the negative and we have a choice,No? Yeah I've been working on it. Just wanted to know if that aspect could have something to do with it. IP: Logged

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