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Thethirdbenjamin
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posted February 18, 2007 07:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before I get into details, I'd like to say that this user was on the fourms before and left because of negative responses she received.

Now this 12th house aqua is bipolar and i'm always in the postion on trying to help.

Now being the gemini sun and capircorn rissing that i'am, once i'm commited to something, i'm commited, and i'm commited to help.

I spent a year with her pulling away and me always finding her, she's finaly gotten to the point were she accepts me as someone who wants to help.

Sorta as i expected were with time she'll learn to trust me, she's also become more open with me.

But for the time being, i've lost direct contact with her... I haven't talked with this person, lately....

but i have her "boxed in" sorta i know what she's up to and how she's doing, she's vary depresed right now.. I haven't heard a thing from her.. but i do leave msg for this person.

She's free to move around that box, but i always have a good idea whats going on around her.

So far it seams she might of "hidden her away from the world".

I've actualy said to this person i think that your a "flower in the garden you can bloom, and i think you can".

all post the chart in a sec....

Now, can you guys tell me based on the transits for her what are the best course of action for the time being based on her chart.

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I am commited to help this is not Iraq and i'm not pulling out.

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Thethirdbenjamin
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posted February 18, 2007 07:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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EarthyEthereal
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posted February 18, 2007 08:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi TTB: You are an amazing friend, to be so committed. That's what it's all about. I've only just learned about transits last summer, or I'd feel confident to help. Just wanted to let you know that I think your friend's lucky to have you.

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EarthyEthereal
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posted February 18, 2007 08:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me again. Wanted to let you know that the link doesn't work, for whatever reason.

One more thing: Like I said, I'm still only getting my head around transits. But Saturn is transiting through the sign of Leo at present, and it's retrograde. So it may be putting heavy pressure on your friend's natal Sun placement (Aquarius).

Hard Saturn contacts can make someone who's prone to depression even more vulnerable. But the good news is that Saturn will be leaving Leo by September (I think). So tell her to please hang in there.

I will send good vibes and thoughts in your friend's direction.

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Thethirdbenjamin
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posted February 18, 2007 08:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks...

all try to fix the link

well i kinda get the feeling she's running off on me again.

I kinda feel like forest gump, always trying to rescue Jenny.

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EarthyEthereal
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posted February 18, 2007 08:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, once she's well again (taking her medication and no longer isolating herself), she'll be able to look back and know who cared enough to stick around during the tough times.

I understand depression all too well, but I can't imagine having to deal with the rollercoaster ride of manic-depression. As long as you are letting your friend know she has someone to turn to who won't judge or cast her out, you've done your part.

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posted February 18, 2007 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is it exactly that you want to know about a 12th House Aqua sun???

A former friend of mine, Aqua 12th house sun and Mars, Venus and Jup in Pisces in the 1st was/is into self-delusion BIGTIME!!

From my perspective he sees himself as so utterly connected, while being so dis-connected that he has to lie his way through life---and he just turned 56....

I also have known a Taurus bi-polar and when they get in the depressive phase, you just have to let them be...Be there for them, but do not push...

Having said those things has your friend been correctly diagnosed? I am in the medical field and see way too often the over use of the term "bi-polar..." And it is sad, because pysch meds have side effects in themselves that often require more meds and the individual gets thrown into this swirling abyss of drug-induced psychosis.

Blessings to you and your friend

Terri

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Gemini Nymph
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posted February 19, 2007 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The image of the chart's too small for me to see the detail - I can only get a gist of it.

Your friend is likely going to be having a very difficult time with any mental health or emotional issues, since transiting Neptune and Uranus are both in her 12th. Once transiting Uranus crosses over her ASC, she's likely to still experience more instablity, but it's will be more "in the open" and easier for others to help her.

The best news I can offer in terms of upcoming tranists, is once the transiting Sun passing over her ASC (around the 1st of March - I can't make out the degrees from the images), she may experience a sense of revitalization and a desire ot be more outgoing. However, if she's bipolar, she may experience some very bad manic episodes during this time too. Let's hope for the best.

Now for the straight talk I know you don't want to hear -

Look, it's wonderful you feel committed and you want to help her and I don't mean to be patronizing, but you can't fix her. I'm saying that as a close and long-time friend to somone who has bipolar, so I know a thing or two about being in that position. You can be supportive, but you can't make her life better just by being committed. She's going to have to do a lot of hard work herself. You cannot be the main source of support or help either - she needs a lot more support than one person can give. You are her friend - you are not her doctor, her therapist, her nurse, or her babysitter. You are only her friend. You need to remember that.

Bipolar is a very awful disorder that often make people resist getting help or even accepting they have a problem. Some people with bipolar go through phases where they "love" being bipolar for one reason or another, or they become very angry about having bipolar and start lashing out, withdraw, go off their meds, etc. Her path to healing may have more than a few serious obstacles like this that SHE has to get over - you can't walk her path for her. Again, you are only her friend - you can love and support her, but you can't fix her. The best thing you can do for her is to know the limitations of what help you can offer, and know when you need to detach for her problems and take care of yourself. You would only be adding to her problems if you neglect to draw healthy boundaries and let yourself slip into a codependant relationship with her.

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Thethirdbenjamin
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posted February 20, 2007 01:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Thethirdbenjamin
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posted February 20, 2007 01:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I posted a chart i did get a msg back from her she's not vary social right now.

But i offered her some support as in prayers and hope and thats gone well so far.

She was thankfull that i keep her in my prayers.

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