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caplibrataurus
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posted March 06, 2007 04:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have lilith in scorpio(1 degree) in my first house, sitting close to my pluto in libra in first house(24 degrees)Can anyone give me an interpretation on this?

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caplibrataurus
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posted March 09, 2007 07:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sooo.....all that huh....wow....i never get replies......must be the neptune in sag in my third......lol

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solar_third
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posted March 09, 2007 08:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might want to try specifying which one you want an interpretation for. There are three 'Lilliths' out there;

Mean Black moon Lillith
'h13' in the extended chart selections at www.astro.com

Asteroid Lillith
'1181' in the extended chart selections at www.astro.com

True Black Moon Lillith
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3Liliths/message/14

Hope this helps,

S_T

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BlackRabbit
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posted March 09, 2007 09:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol you almost got it solar_third
you left out DML.
oh and the true BML is h13
and the mean BML is h21
the true and mean liliths are not to differnt liliths they are the same thing, The mean postion of BML is it's average postion. The true position is where it actually is. This is similar to the
difference between true and mean positions of the nodes of the Moon.

read this http://home.epix.net/~tzarathu/THE%20THREE%20LILITHS.html

the 3 liliths are:

(the lunar Apogee , a cresent moon with a cross ) Black Moon Lilith

"1181" Lilith the asteroid

(the Hypothetical moon) "h58" Dark Moon Lilith

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Gemini sun Scorpio moon Taurus ascendant

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BlackRabbit
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posted March 09, 2007 10:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeing as astro.com naturally shows the true BML I'll go by that.

SCORPIO

It is a strong position activating desires, passions and extreme
reactions. Question which are related to life and death wake up
either compelling attractions or distress. A very deep mutation of
the being must be done on an unconscious level through his life.
Rigor, sobriety, deprivation in all life's field is like death of
one's part. When trials are too heavy, the native may chose death, or
tries to suicide. Progressions through different levels, different
trials, progressions through beloved persons death, are the native's
program. The authoritarian potential is very strong here. There
is also a background of violence, sexuality, and destruction where the
native must not fall. Here the danger is to reverse the situation
against himself when violence can't be exerted on others. Links to
death are very important. Death fascinates. Sometimes the native may
chose to snatch people from death (being a physician doctor, for
instance). He also may receive messages from dead persons. But if his
Lilith is not well aspected, the native has to be very careful with
spiritualism, as lemurs may incorporate his body and drive him crazy.
In Scorpio, Black Moon gives the opportunity to always restart with
energy. If disease is here, it regenerates,especially when Sun is
conjunct to Black Moon. The creativity potential is important: to be
an analyst, to practice hypnosis, to handle money. In any case the
native as to be honest. The native will always be unable to control
the evolution of the house whose cusp is in Scorpio. He will have to
accept the events as they come, and will do his best in living them
while hoping coming better days.

Taurus opposite Scorpio will oblige the native to hang on to life in
order to reach the harmonious life he is dreaming of. This desire
will calm down his passionate tendency. Inner roots must not be
destroyed like the Scorpio would do. Love of live must be respected
and preserved. Life's values must be understood.

In past lives, the soul might have commanded armies, might have been a
warrior. Also she might have been soaked in magic and occultism, but
not in a good way : rituals, secret practices, initiations where
sexuality and religion were mixed and bound to physical or psychic
power. The soul might have either lived them with passion or endured
them. The environment was destructive causing deep injuries to the
soul with buried traumas bound to death, blood, money power and
sexuality. She might have free instincts that had either destroyed
people or herself.

Today the native may be fascinated by this strange world of power,
magic, and sexuality as he knows he has something more to learn about
himself. He may be using occultism for help in his metamorphosis.
Sexuality is part of the lessons. He must be careful with its use
together with the use of power under the pain of getting new trials.

If Lilith is at the very beginning of Scorpio, the native must change
of way. If he does not, he will be stopped. The process will take
place many times in his life, and each change will be drastic and
will generate distress. The native will have to find an action field
and organize his life on good basis.

If Lilith is at the very end of Scorpio, the native will have to open
himself to new horizons. Each step in his evolution will depend on the
way he has evolved during the previous one. He cannot plan. Eachstage
asks for a renunciation, a sacrifice, a deprivation, for the death of
something(or someone).

Keywords: great interest for enigmas, mysteries, death, for the beyond
-very important sexuality which may be transcended through
esotericism - passionate power - temptation - frustration - material
ambition - fantasy - suicidal impulses - magnetism - acute lucidity -
transformation or initiation - fascination - nightmares - onanism -
surpassing of oneself - financial problems - rebirth - for a woman:
the vamp, the witch.

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Gemini sun Scorpio moon Taurus ascendant

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