posted March 10, 2007 07:29 PM
I have always thought that in the state of SAG, we will alway engulf our chart, could it be Jupiter just eclipsing all the other planets with its immense size. I don't know really...but I always yearn to understand this, though when things come up, I do let my Sag side overrule all other logic.I was thinking about the Novels by Anne Rice and how she stated that Lestat the Vampire was born in Oct. I always thought this incorrect because his personality was totally SAG. I thought that maybe she gave him a OCT birthday because of Halloween.
If you read the Vampire chronicles you will see from the first book written by Louis that his interpretation of Lestat was that of a Monster..though he loved this monster no less. Louis showed big times traits of Aquarius,showing contempt for others and always seeing a good in them,no matter what others would say.
In INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE, lestat is shown to be a B@ST@RD with no comtempt for anyone, killing at will and even making a child a vampire.
in THE VAMPIRE LESTAT, lestat explains that he did not know the rules of the vampires when he made a child a vampire, he did it to keep louis with him ( a true aspect of SAG, though they can be alone, they really are looking for that ONE that will enhance who they are and love them for that) Lestat also explained why he killed at what seemed like random to louis but was actually soemthing else. (i won't tell that for those of you that have not read them, though I think the books wonderful to read for discovering different signs of the zodiac)
Lestats mother, the first that he turned into a vampire was a true sagi, I say this in that she was a Sag II, this Sag does haven any of scorpio or capi in its degree but can show more of the true sag (in my opinion) once Lestat turned her, she was off and running, leaving him to his own loneliness. Lestat thought that they would discover the world together like lovers in love reborn, BUT mother was feeling that lost ability she was born with...to discover and find the truths of the world. Women Sagis have it the hardest...they are bound to get married, have children, sacrifice that gift of adventure they were destined to hold and the worse part is, usually their spouses are not sags and don't understand this feeling of FREEDOM. Lestat states that his mother is the ONLY one of his siblings and father that really understand him...
Anyhow she finally being free of her dutys as mother, lover, takes off leaving lestat the one who gave her rebirth (mother makes son, son renews birth of mother....) to his own adventure. he does not see her for years at times...she is total sag. I think that Lestat was a SAG III.
I bring this up because in all these books, He is bound to the adventure, the sacrifice the relentless sacrifice of being misunderstood and BLAMED for things, of course later (thank god he is immortal...others of us dont have that time for the world to see we were right)the truth speaks to all and they love the sagi more.
Now this is so important in your need to understand a sign ruled by a planet that was considered first a GOD OF BATTLE (for those of you that know why I capitalized that..lol) and later the "restorer of Happiness and joy"
I quote from the book by Robert Carl jansky, Astrology Nutrition and Health:
"Later the Babylonians released "certain People" (could they those certain people have been born in the sun sign Jupiter), whom they called priest, from the mundane task of herding in order to devote all their time to studying the heavens and the portent of the stars. Jupiter, which the ancients babylonians called Marduk, was the most importan Diety. Marduk was at first the principal god of battle and later the "restorer of happiness and joy" to the "afflicted." Thus marduk (Jupiter) today has become the principal symbol of all who heal, of wisdom and knowledge, of the guru, the priest, the expert.
Every civilization that modern man has studied places the healer, or medicine man, symbolized by jupiter, only slightly lower than the chieftain of the tribe or nation, who is usually symbolized by the Sun. for centuries, the secret knowledge of these medicine men or priest was feared by tribal members who did not possess their "occult" knowledge. In modern society, until very recently, the doctor was similarly revered by the public as being only a little less than God. Jupiter, alone with it's natural sign, Sagittarius, and its natural house, the ninth, thus became associated with higher wisdom and learnin, religious belief, the occult and the esoteric.
now this is the key...a SAG is born with a instinct to know this. when they read things of this sort it is stamped more deeply into their self and they then empower it more.
you can tell he is this and that because you know the basic traits of a SAG, but he will know that you read it in some book and you didnt "FEEL" it from deep within.
I think that its wonderful that you respond to him naturally, you stop and become embarrassed or shocked at his sayings..this is normal. If you were a LEO-the only sign that is close to standing up to a SAG, lovemaking so intense and true to them the sag is known to let a LEO take her claws into his hindquarters and bring him down...lol. but she is a wild cat sure to drive him crazy telling him when separation is in hand, "if we are destined to be together...we will meet again.."
now your normality can win you points because he sees you as HONEST, when a woman goes well beyond who she really is to a SAG...he can tell, sometimes in SAGS extreme microscopic lenses he can actually with bluntness accuse her to his higher self as being a **** because of her fake demeanor in trying to keep up with him.
when he touched your ring, he may have been stimulated by the fact that you were married and this might have brought on a challenge to him, since he must feel that there is something about you that stimulates him, he could try to steal you from the spouse (though there is not one) or he is juggling in his happiness that he was right that you didnt not have a spouse, that he knew! It could make him feel wonderful in his delusional arrogance that you did it just for him..to ward off all the others.
I will tell you this...your song on myspace...by RUSH..SAGS love RUSH! lol. does he like RuSH...you should find out...
what did you mean "he viewed his work schedule from my knee today" i dont get that...as much as sags think we know..i am lost onthat one...lol.
He doesnt believe you really want to be alone honey...NO WOMAN wants to be alone..and no man either! we are magnets turned to each other. I have just come to accept the fact that two of the same genders share this fate too..though i am confused by it at times too. LOVE IS LOVE!
no matter who we fight as SAG and ARIES fight we still can love one another. ENDURANCE IS THE KEY!
The key is ENDURANCE...your endurance, because he is always running.He is always doing his Richard SImmons workout...go go GO!!! your mind has to be as sharp as a pencil..cause hes watching, and what ever you say he remembers and will call you on it...if you pass its a win for you..if not..its DOO DOO!!!
as i told you about the work place..i will post that here:
"they got it all wrong...you got to stimulate him, make him see that he is gong to miss the best thing that ever will happen to him. i will tell you we can be sadistic....meaning a woman can interest us and sometimes its a lust thing...its up to her to keep ups stimulated MENTALLY,,not arguing but that whole INDIAN JONES momentum...finding seeking...TRUTH! andthen the hunt is on for something else! so you have to keep that "SOMETHING ELSE" alive.
I think its so difficult to work together, because sagi's beleive this is kinda like a "HOLD" on there freedom, you are there and so is he, he can't be free or he will and you will freak out at his flirtness and such.
I think that if you saw him flirting with another coworker something like saying..."oh she is cute should we invite her over for wine tonight....?" this is a way of not seeming over protective or possessive,but showing that you are not afraid of the competition..you imagination and vulnerability to show that you can compete and intimidate any other woman is vital to the relationship, he sees that you are aware of his range of "interest" for a woman is the same to a sagi as a good book, her sides and front and back is beautiful to the feel. if he see you are fine in one way as observing..but alert to his actions..he will feel you are not threatening him."
DO NOT tell him about any problems in your life pertiaing to children, ex lovers etc, he will see it as baggage and even though a sag "THINKS" he can handle anything with is super cape...in the end he will resent it all and leave.
all you need to do is see his PUZZLE, he wants you to put it together, he wants you to understand it all. this puzzle that is he.
Beware of his loathing of other women though. they will see his power to grab and they will challenge you for the prize that isnt really a prize at all, but only a spiritual tool wanting to be heard and wants to listen.
A good bottle of wine....FIVE good bottles of wine on a nice texan starry sky will release things in him that you might not have even known. do not let him clasp your bra open or let down your hair....the time is not then but maybe later....hehehe.
the more you let him know you know, the more he will want you and the more he will rest and take on that position of stallion to his lady. He needs to know that you are not to be messed with, that you are in control of who you are and you dont need him to help you, but that you want to share with him everything. its hard to accomplish this in the work place as you have the upper hand in knowing BOTH sides of who he is.
you will always hear when a spouse goes to the christmas part at her husband's (the sag)work and she will hear stories that he has did that she never knew existed.
Its really a funny scene....Take my world for it.
A SAG will flirt with other women, but its not always in a sexual matter and some women will get this confused, he is actually observing and watching her like a sweet painting, loving the frame that holds her canvas as its from Italy, loving her oiled creases as if they are still wet...looking into the eyes of the person...adoring.
he is not a fool and knows what he has at home, but he knows that he can be stimulated cheaply by others in the work place.
You do have your work cut out for you, but isn't it fun! it is the workout you have never dreamed of...not knowing, being shocked by his bluntness, seeing the invisible wave of energy that surrounds him...that which others might see but state to oneself, "...nah...it can't be"
In the end, you recieve something wonderful and the older he is,the better! but even if friendship is all that comes of it or pure love under sheets of silk, you still have accomplished love.
DON"T push, Watch and feed. you don't have to make the move for dinner or movie, but let him know in some fashion that you understand.
A Sag will go to a night club. He will see a girl that has stunned his eyesight. As she moves on the dance floor all night long, pushing all men away from her who try to advance with the worlds..."hey baby...whats your sign..I'm a " ." She will push them away with eyes toward him saying, "come little horsie!" And he will see this, watching her the whole night as she moves about like blue flame swaying to the invisible wind of stench and funk, sweat and cracked smelly butts...she will wait.
he will just watch her and when the bartender calls "last call" he will leave with out saying ONE world to her, knowing that NEXT WEEK he will come back to see if she will come back to the thought of..."maybe he will be here again..."
And eventually is this LAW OF ATTRACTION (sun CHild..I read that on your myspace..hehehe) comes forth, they will meet and become one.
This whole relationship thing can be a little messy, like mud pies on hot summer day, your mother notes..."my my my...how am i going to get dirt out of your crack there...and there...oooooh and there!!!"
You just gotta keep going.
Have no fear my friend, Victory is so close.