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Green Fairy
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posted March 13, 2007 08:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so, i was having an astrological convo with a close friend of mine and i made an attempt of giving her some info about her natal chart et all.
So, the rising sign thing came up and she's like "oh i'm so not how cappy risings are supposed to be, they got it all wrong" and since that moment i have been trying to figure out why she is so much different from welllll.. what she's supposed to be like (physically wise)

she's got deep green eyes (and i mean the deepest green you'll ever see) but it doesn't really match her chart, i can't find anything relative (and i do like to nitpick like that)...
Not that i am an expert

Please i need some help here
* i included asteroids, just in case*

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AcousticGod
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posted March 13, 2007 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got an answer: simple genetics.

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future_uncertain
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posted March 13, 2007 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mystery solved!

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sd09
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posted March 13, 2007 09:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe i say evill green is evill

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sd09
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posted March 13, 2007 09:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heard some where maybe its not

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LiondePoissons
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posted March 13, 2007 10:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whenever someone talks about amazing green eyes I immediately think of scorpio...and she has a scorpio moon????

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CoralFrequency
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posted March 14, 2007 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They could have gotten the time of birth wrong in which case it could still be Aquarius or Sag.

Capricorn is an earth sign though.. and I do associate earth with the colour green specially if it's a forest-y green colour.

Plus, it's always good to check the ruler of the ascendant which in this case is Saturn in Virgo in the 9th (Sag’s house). I've seen a lot of Virgos with greenish eyes. (Not mentioning her Sun and Venus - the planet of looks lol - are both in Virgo)

Mars in Cancer is also in aspect to the ascendant and sextile Saturn (the ascendant ruler). I don't think I've ever known a Cancer who doesn't have blue or green eyes lol (I'm sure there are many out there but I haven't met one yet).. so it might be the watery Cancerian influence coming through.

I always notice the moon in people's faces as well. With a Scorpio Moon she would naturally have deep looking eyes.. PLUS hers is conjunct Uranus so it could make her seem extra special/interesting.

If all else fails.. GENES!!! Lol

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Arnicka
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posted March 14, 2007 02:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely Scorpio Moon [intense] conjunct Uranus [wild color] - Remember the eyes and moon sign thread?

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GeminiLover75
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posted March 14, 2007 03:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Makes sense. My eyes are hazel-green and I'm a Scorpio moon (Uranus also in Scorpio but it's 12 degrees from my moon, so I would consider the orb a bit too wide to be conjunct). Neither of my parents or anyone in my family have this eye colour.

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posted March 14, 2007 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG is right, eye color has nothing to do with astrology.

Then again this is thread #5 billion trying to attribute anything from love of pickles to small nipples to an astrological chart.

People should understand that astrology isn't a solid designation of this or that. Astrology is symoblic, it represents properties or influences that you may or may not express. Astrology is about potential and its about power. Please don't make the mistake that your astrological chart can dictate ANYTHING about you, you are a free thinking, free willed human being with rational thoughts.

Use your chart as a source of power, for areas where you should grow and expand, the types of people you should associate with, helping you find a career path, and maybe explaning some of your problem areas. I guess it frustrates me that peopel get so hung up on superficial aspects of not only astrology, but life in general. Can't our minds go after something deeper than eye color? If you want to explain eye color, take a course on genetics, it will explain how there are recessive and dominant traits. If both your parents have blue or green eyes, you will have blue or green eyes NO MATTER WHAT YOUR CHART IS. Blue and green are just different representations of a recessive gene. They are lack of pigment. Brown eyes are dominant, but if both parents are brown eyed and carry the recessive gene, YOU CAN STILL HAVE BLUE OR GREEN EYES.

Gaze into your chart the way a fortune teller gazes into a crystal ball, allow the impression of the chart to wash over you, and your intuition to grab onto different aspects and characteristics. Of course, without study this will be pointless. You must learn all the major aspects and positions first, and look at lots and lots of charts. I reccomend the book, "the round art," to anyone who is intelligent enough to grab astrology on a more esoteric level.

For example, this chart should jump out as highly earthy to anyone right off the bat. With sun and asc in earth, and the chart, ruler saturn in virgo, we have a karmic path that is highly influenced by virgo energy, so the native would be best advised to read any virgo interpretations they can get their hands on. The native would probably also be best advised to tap into their incredibly powerful observational and organizational alibities, bringing them into all facets of their lives.

Sorry for the blunt post, I am not scolding, merely enlightening. Please don't take my fire personally (you can feel the mutable fire can't you??)

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Green Fairy
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posted March 14, 2007 07:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah i know, not everything has to do with astrology, blimey! if it did, but don't spoil the fun !!!! lol

thanks everyone for the contribution, that's also my way of learning more about astrology

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GeminiLover75
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posted March 14, 2007 07:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology CAN describe things about your looks. It's not the CAUSE of your looks, genetics are. But astrology is about synchronicity... it's a way to see, and understand, what's already there in a situation, a person's psychological makeup, etc. For me it's a method of seeing/understanding/interpreting what's there, but not the actual cause of things. Hence why the rising sign does describe things about your looks, and hence why the moon sign can also describe the eyes quite well in many cases. It's already there, but the law of synchronicity in astrology allows us to see common patterns with other people. Notice I said "describe", not "astrology is the cause of your eye colour". And yes of course astrology describes much deeper things than a person's looks, there are whole other levels that it can be taken to (I have many books including The Round Art as mentioned above - excellent book!) but it's interesting and fun to take a little light-hearted look at something random like this every now then. Nothing wrong with doing that.

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thebigeliza
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posted March 14, 2007 04:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too, am a green-eyed scorpio moon perhaps its more than coincidence? Peace to us all, Eliza Libra/Scorpio/Aquarius

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Happy Dragon
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posted March 14, 2007 04:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
deep eyes ??
Pluto is aspecting the Ascendant .. maybe that's the depth your seeing ..
.. my sixpence worth .. :-))

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Missa
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posted March 14, 2007 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Missa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While I have come to the conclusion that astrology has something to do with looks (I used to doubt that pretty much earlier), people shouldn't go too much into details with the subject. I mean I've heard people saying that deep blue eyes could be a sign of a water sign Ascendant or a chart that has a strong emphasis on water signs. But what about asian people for example, I haven't seen a single one with blue eyes despite how much water they have on their chart. So yes, issues like eye colour have mostly to do with genetics, ethnicity, etc. I'd look at the Ascendant mostly to describe how you present those attributes you've inherited rather than try to guess someone's eye colour or hair colour based on it - it could be anything.

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SLAYER
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posted March 14, 2007 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto in Scorpio oppose Moon in Taurus, and they both square to my Leo Ascedant. I sometimes find words meaningless, and transfer my deep emotions with my big brown eyes.

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Sun-Aries
Moon-Taurus
Leo rising.

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AcousticGod
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posted March 14, 2007 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the instance that astrology points to indulgence or discipline I think astrology could possibly affect your eating habits, exercise habits, and so forth, and affect your looks that way. Beyond that I can also see astrology affecting the way that you package your looks.

I think the raw materials are genetic, though. Missa's comment about Asians is a valid point that should be considered.

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benp87
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posted March 14, 2007 06:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a brown-green eyes and I don't know how I got them lol, neither of my parents has a green eyes, but they have brown.

Sun - Leo
AC- Libra
Moon - Aries

btw I have a twin sister that has brown eyes (no green).

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LILYGIRL
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posted March 14, 2007 07:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you consider the fact that the vast majority of the world's people are people of color and rarely if ever have blue or green eyes, it seems rather silly to link astrology to eye color. It is genetics.

Otherwise explain all the millions of Chinese, Indian and African human beings whose eyes are not and will never be blue or green or any other sheer lipid color.... I have never met an African American Pisces with blue or green eyes either for that matter .....the one that I know who has brown green(sort of hazel I guess) eyes is actually a Leo..and no her hair isn't red (0r blonde) either....LOL

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pearlized
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posted March 14, 2007 10:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isnt Vanessa Williams a Pisces?

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lovely*
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posted March 15, 2007 01:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually i associate deep green or olive colored eyes with virgo, especially early degree because of leo influences.

linda goodman described physical attributes for each sign, so i can see how a person just learning would ask.

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 15, 2007 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Otherwise explain all the millions of Chinese, Indian and African human beings whose eyes are not and will never be blue or green or any other sheer lipid color....


I'd have to disagree with most of what you said. I'm not sure about the Chinese but their have been people from the Indian SubContinent with green/blue/hazel eyes. They're not in the majority but it happens (Ashwaryia Rai is a perfect example).

And furthermore, I knew of an old man back in the village in Mozambique who had green eyes (I remember them because they scared the shiit out of me..LOL). Oh scratch that, that may not be a good example because a good number of us there are of mixed heritage so weird traits are bound to show up along family line. Nevermind that.

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AgeofAquarius
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posted March 15, 2007 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AgeofAquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my own personal opinion, eye color has nothing to do with astrology. Not unless your referring to a particular race. No one in my family (that I know of) has blue, green or hazel eyes. So I agree with AG just genetics…

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posted March 15, 2007 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Virgo Sun/Venus(early) Cap.ASC.

My eyes are brown with green flecks... but by no means hazel...

My mother has very dark brown eyes (Leo)
My dad has hazel eyes (Libra)

So I guess I'm with the flow here..

but lets remember:

2 brown eyed people can have a baby with
Brown/Blue/ Green eyes.. or any mix of that.

however, 2 blue eyed people can not have a brown eyed baby... because the blue is recessive....Correct???
Biology was a loonngg time ago lol

My daughter's eyes were as blue as blue can be the first year of her life...But in the light you could see the brown outer ring and the streaks of brown through them...
Sure enough by the time she was 2.. they had turned to a hazel shade much like her
fathers.

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LILYGIRL
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posted March 15, 2007 11:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please understand my point. The VAST majority of people of color on this PLANET do NOT have pale blue eyes, blond hair or pale green eyes. These are markedly recessive traits...it is biology 101. So as an ethical skilled astrologer what would you do when a black man (traditionally of brown or black eyes and tradionally with brown and black hair--it is not going to be blond !---comes for a reading--say ahhh he must be a Capricorn or Taurus?? Brains people let's exercise and take them for a full spin here.

Sure I can pinpoint the 10% or the unusual case too. The point is you diminish your validity as an astrologer if you dont get that a 99% of BLACK OR BROWN skinned water signs are not going to fit your little list of what a water sign looks like..this includes CHINESE and Japanese who overwhelmingly have brown and black eyes.,...ditto for the ole Tall horsey Sagitarrian stereotype. Today most Koreans for example do not end up being 6 feet tall. Does that mean none of them are Sagitarrians or because none of them have flaming red hair that there are no Mars Aries folks residing in Korea......

And please people let's not throw out examples of brown people with green eyes. I come from a long line of Dutch Black Cherokee and Italian whose family members have coffee cream skin and hazel green eyes--it exists it is not common. Thus stop tripping over it in astrology.

What I am actively discouraging is pegging people's sun signs ("guessing") by eye color...ughhhhhhhhhh...it is limited and ethnocentric. Tell that to the Cherokee Pisces woman with jet black hair and jet black eyes....

Sorry for the unusual rant... this sort of thing in astrology chafes my arse for its blatant cartoonishness...LOL

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