posted March 17, 2007 02:09 AM              

my brother and sister both have this..it indicates a bad father (in my opinion),
and I have noticed that my bro and sis are the only ones at home who yell a lot and anger easily, they've got quite a temper.

Gemini Sun/Virgo Moon/Libra ASC Brother:
capricorn mars in 4th

Aquarius Sun/Taurus Moon/Sag ASC Sister: pisces mars in 4th.

one thing i didn't mention. they are passive aggressive. outside, they let people walk over them. they don't solve their problems, like telling someone to stop bothering them, that's a real simple example. anyhow, i tell them if something bothers them they have got to make it stop...one other thing, they don't listen to my advice. Lol I don't know if that has anything to do with mars in 4th, but they're very much alike in those ways...and i believe that's their only common placement.

posted March 17, 2007 08:34 AM              

So what does it mean if you have a friend's mars in your fourth house?
Prone to arguments ?
Thanx in advance for answering!!

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Leo Sun, Aquarius Moon, Libra Ascendent.

posted March 17, 2007 01:42 PM            

I have retrograde Mars in Scorpio in the 4th house. It is conjunct my retrograde Saturn in Scorpio, also in th 4th! (heavy going, huh?!)

The relationship I had with my son's father was abusive. He was the violent partner - I only ever retaliated once and ended up with a broken nose for my troubles. He is generally a very aggressive man but is currently getting help with his troubles, which is a good thing - I want him to eventually have a very good relationship with his son.

The bad father thing also holds true at my end. He was an violently abusive alcoholic until recently (he has been sober since July!) and regularly beat me during my childhood. His Mars is also square my Sun I believe. That said, since moving away years ago, our relationship is now improving.

I myself, can be an angry person at times, but rarely violent. I think, due to the fact that my mars is retrograde, the anger is turned inwardly and I have good self control - i don't often lose my temper, although it is quite a temper when it goes! (picture a typical bull explosion!!!) What tauren_scorpian said about passive-aggressive behavior, sounded familiar. I'm not exactly a "walkover" with other people, as it were, but I do intensely dislike confrontation and tend to keep people at arms length. It is definitely true that most of the violence in my life has happened in my domestic setups. Interesting!

It's all good these days! I am now in a happy, non-violent relationship and have been for over 4 years. Which is great, when you consider I have a singleton Uranus in the 5th house, squaring his Venus! I think I'm doing quite well with that bad reputation!!! Damn Mars doesn't even come into it anymore!

Any more with Mars in the 4th?

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posted March 18, 2007 10:35 PM            

I had troubles with abusive relationships when I first started dating. (Though now if a guy laid a hand on me like that he'd lose an appendage. LOL) I also didn't have a handle on my own temper and was inclined to throw things and slam doors, etc. I always attributed the temper thing more to all the Scorpio influence in my chart, especially cause Mars is in Libra - it's interesting to consider that perhaps it's a Mars in the 4th thing...

I don't think I've ever been passive aggressive - passivity isn't really part of my personality at all. While I don't seek out confrontation, I won't shy from it either. If anything I've been accused of being blunt and too direct.

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Bad father i would say is more dictated by a heavy retrograde Saturn placement

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posted March 19, 2007 08:19 AM            

That's amazing - I had a fire at my previous residence.