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LILYGIRL unregistered	posted March 18, 2007 07:10 PM Don't freak out...I just checked out two of my best friends ..they have been married 18 years ...they have -4500. Yes negative 4500....LOL.... My husband and I are like +2500. You have to recognize like anything --- free will is ultimately your co pilot.... IP: Logged
libraschoice7 Knowflake Posts: 174 From: the city so nice they named it twice! Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 18, 2007 07:16 PM The Harmony section was negative with Pluto being -40.56 for me and -8.24 for him. The other planet was Mercury with -30.5 for him and -1.2 for me. His Moon was the #1 planet hit hardest by my planets with a 66.5 power, but -1 in harmony. Mabe it's just a physical attraction and that's it...shrugs shoulders oh well such is life ------------------ Sun in Libra Moon in Cancer Jupiter in Cancer Venus in Virgo Mars in Cancer Ascendant in Cancer I "FEEL" therefor I am IP: Logged
Arnicka unregistered	posted March 18, 2007 08:20 PM Lily, do they have a lot of aspects in the list of those that are less than 1 degree? IP: Logged
tara19 unregistered	posted March 18, 2007 08:33 PM Jazzebel or Arnicka or anyone, I've got a question for you all. I'd be grateful if you or someone who knows this system can help me out 'cos I feel like I have the IQ of a 2 year old right now! On the main astrowin window, on the upper left side, I've got these pull down menus: File Houses Options Keywords Help That's IT. no more. nada. Am I not supposed to have more? Like "data" etc? I thought I saw more of these when I dled this yesterday. And now I see only these. I don't understand! Anybody know what's going on? Is it something I did? Thanks much, Tara. IP: Logged
bleakbeauty unregistered	posted March 18, 2007 09:00 PM It says my ascendant is Sagittarius and it's actually Capricorn. *edit I figured out where to put the other person's data but I still can't save it. So I have to keep re-entering both of our birth information. I also can't make head or tail of the data from the Relationship report. I think the program is way confusing and I can't use it. Frustrated now. IP: Logged
pearlized unregistered	posted March 18, 2007 09:08 PM bleack,check your timezone IP: Logged
Jazzebel unregistered	posted March 18, 2007 09:29 PM bleak, after entering the birth data, click on the "save to disk" icon. Then click again on the prompted *Select" and that should save the data. Repeat the same for each person you enter birth details. Tara, that doesn't sound right. There're more features then what you listed, like "Input", "Data", ect. Maybe something wrong with the way you downloaded it. Do you have the same thing happen when you turn AstroWin off and then turn it on again? Lily, we are talking quality of a relationship and compatibility here, not longevity. IP: Logged
libraschoice7 Knowflake Posts: 174 From: the city so nice they named it twice! Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 18, 2007 10:34 PM Ok, now I am really scratching my head over this, because he's the worst score so far(and I've checked my score with others)...and this guy really turns me on, but then again I am not normal on what I like, my attractions are odd so I am a bad example ------------------ Sun in Libra Moon in Cancer Jupiter in Cancer Venus in Virgo Mars in Cancer Ascendant in Cancer I "FEEL" therefor I am IP: Logged
tara19 unregistered	posted March 18, 2007 11:06 PM Jazzebel, dunno what happened but I got it! I must have clicked on something wierd earlier, but I followed your earlier instructions on the thread and I got those input icons back. Okay but now, the final numbers I see for me and my guy look like this: Power*Harmony = 2005.67(mine), and 2078.21(his) Do those numbers make any sense? Is that what they should look like? What are those decimal points? And are those compatible numbers? Also, his moon has the biggest power in his chart (66), and my pluto has the biggest in mine (51). What does that mean? I do get that the power number comes from the closest orbs between the planets, and the harmony number comes from the soft aspects and maybe the opposition. I think a square between planets reduces harmony, no? Anyway, I think I'll go read that explanations site you gave..... I don't have the hang of this yet, but I will. It does look fascinating! Tara. IP: Logged
Arnicka unregistered	posted March 19, 2007 02:00 AM Tara, It means that the strongest planets that are activated for that person are also the most harmonious = a higher Power*Harmony score. The decimal pts don't add much to the compatibility, its just the cause of power and harmony ratios not always totaling whole numbers. 2000+ is apparently compatible for both, but the author says of course factor in free will etc. In the article he also stated: the person with the higher venus power loves the most and the person with the higher venus harmony feels the love the most. It sounds semi-vague, but I guess the higher the power the stronger its energy to that person, the higher the harmony the more that energy resonates positively with that person. So a high power mercury = their thinking function is heightened [theyd feel amped up in the mercury in scorpio or whatever dept], but that same high power merc with a low harmony means that person will feel tension in communication as related to the relationship. biggest power = most energy. harmony if positive would be harmonious energy, harmony if negative would be discordant energy [as in this is what they have to look at and change if they want to continue on in a less discordant relationship]. harmony if 0.00 is neutral. If power and harmony are both negative in say, saturn, then that would point to a big obstacle for that person's saturn in that relationship - something to work on. Hope this makes more sense ~ IP: Logged
Fluke Newflake Posts: 0 From: Norway Registered: Oct 2009	posted March 19, 2007 03:21 AM Ok, me and this guy.. We have a final score of 2471 (me) and 2637 (him)... But this next part worries me, and I don't know what it might be interpreted as.. His mars has the 3rd highest power in his chart, 44, and his venus the 4th, 35,(both higher than mine, btw) but the harmony numbers are negative... -9 for venus and -25(!) for mars... that's not good, is it?? I'd love some insight on this... IP: Logged
LILYGIRL unregistered	posted March 19, 2007 09:52 AM "Lily, we are talking quality of a relationship and compatibility here, not longevity." Good point, but just for clarification, These are indeed quite different persons yet I would offer that their relationship is lovely, and they seem quite happy even after "longevity", breast cancer scare, two overseas moves, and two children. I simply posted their example because it is worrisome to see people going "Oh my God!! I shouldn't be involved with this person because of my cosmodyne software score.......And yes you can have longevity and a quality relationship.... Some people believe it or not might fare better with a +500 rather than a plus +5000. A plus 5000 would indicate to me a mirror image, a so called pure "harmony" but at what cost? It would not be a sufficient growth experience for me. My point is ask yourself what you need, what inspires you to love and grow most. I know boring complex questions with no set formula. Yet, for some it might be a modicum of harmony with a heavy dose of challenge. For others it might be very tamped down minimal discord and tons of free sailing harmony. It is not as easy as saying I have +4000 with this person and +1000 with this guy and therefore the first guy is so much better for me.,.......Nahhhhhhh IP: Logged
darkdreamer unregistered	posted March 19, 2007 10:22 AM That is interesting. I have a powerharmony of positive 2320 (mine) and positive 1476 (his) with someone. His highest number is Moon (58), but only with 2,75 harmony. My highest number is ASC (54,08), but negative harmony of 6,63. The Venus-score is 53,58 power and 21,08 harmony for me, and his Venus-score is 44,62 with 17,64 harmony. HIs Mars has a high power number, too (48,75), but it is the most disharmonious planet for him (-15,79). My most disharmonious planet is Pluto (-18,08), but it`s only the 7th strongest. I got a powerful and harmonous Sun (power: 47,89 and harmony 37,87), whereas his most harmonious planet is Jupiter, and Venus comes next (but venus has more power than Jupiter). How do I interprete that? Does it mean I am attracted more to him than he to me, because my powerharmony is 2320, whereas his is only 1476? Does it mean he is not attracted to me at all? Our Venus-energies seem to be close to each other, even though his is a bit weaker. So again, it seems that I am the most attracted. But then again, in the comparision both of our Venus-energies are quite strong. (Mine is the 2nd strongest planet, his is the 4th strongest planet; my Venus is the 3rd harmonious, his is the 2nd harmonious). But both our Mars are close to each eather, too. Mine is 46,58, his is 48,75, but both are very disharmonious. Mine has harmony of minus 15,97, his has harmony of minus 15,79. What does that mean? Violence on both sides? But how does that go with his strong Moon and the fairly good Venus-numbers? I am a bit confused. scratches head DD IP: Logged
tara19 unregistered	posted March 19, 2007 03:12 PM thanks, Arnicka. I read the dual cosmodynes site and I still don't completely comprehend the interpretation he does for he and his two wives. I mean, I do understand the Venus and Mars and maybe Jupiter interps. Those would be obvious I think - love, sex/anger, and generosity/humor/kindness/forgiveness etc. I followed his planet symbolisms (DD, I think it's a good idea to do that anyway). my guys's moon is also strong in power (62) and it's also strong in harmony (12+). my moon is not that strong in power (27) but it's strong in harmony (16). his venus is not hugely strong in power (35) compared to mine (48), but it's stronger in harmony (13+) compared to mine which is kinda low (minus .03). his mars is slightly lower in power (33) than mine (40) but it's waaaay lower in harmony (-15) than mine (0.27). I guess that means I make him angry which I think I kinda do. I still have to figure out what Saturn means in this sort of interpretation. You know, it's interesting and it makes me think. I think tha this might be a wonderful tool to know exactly what we do to each other (in our relationships with that special person) and take necessary steps to avoid pitfalls. Oh, and I LOVE the software on the whole. PLENTY to play with!!! IP: Logged
OzMeg222 Newflake Posts: 0 From: victoria, australia Registered: Aug 2009	posted March 19, 2007 05:11 PM We had/have very heavy saturn, its the strongest harmony negative for both of us. There was always something so saturn-heavy about us, it wasn't much fun a lot of the time but very intense. However, the power of his venus is 49 and mine is 24 but his venus harmony is lower than mine. All of his power are so much higher than mine, but the harmonies work out about the same. Heavy karma there, very intense. Don't think he could cope, I know I struggled with it. I hate saturn right now! (Middle of my saturn return- oh joy) IP: Logged
Diandra23 unregistered	posted March 19, 2007 05:32 PM Hi Unfortunatelly i cant use the program because it doesnt have the cities from my country....that�s so sad Kiss to all IP: Logged
pearlized unregistered	posted March 19, 2007 09:27 PM diandra, you can add the information.go to astro.com and copy from there. my city was not on there either. IP: Logged
BornUnderDioscuri Moderator Posts: 49 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted March 19, 2007 11:33 PM I am a complete idiot. I cannot get this thing to work for the life of me lol This sucks and I am dying to know too IP: Logged
pearlized unregistered	posted March 20, 2007 12:51 AM where are you stuck at? it took a lot of manipulating for me to get it to work. IP: Logged
Arnicka unregistered	posted March 20, 2007 04:23 AM Tara, Yes it takes a bit more work that Im used to in thinking about pos & neg symbolism. But so far it seems like this: Sun - pos ego enhancing [feel better about who you are, what youre going for in life], neg would be the opposite, feeling ignored and not appreciated for who you are /what you do Moon - pos feels like family, caring, nurturing, neg there might be insensitivity and needs not being met from their perspective Merc - pos communication gets across enough so that the person feels understood, neg maybe being belittled, verbal abuse [if theres a neg mars] , arguments in general and of course feeling misunderstood Venus & Mars is pretty basic Jupiter - like he stated pos would be good will toward the other person, neg could be indulgence or not having much hope for the future of the relationship Saturn - pos might be sharing responsibilities well, feels like the relationship is moving forward and achieving something, there are boundaries as in commitment possibly but they dont feel restrictive, neg would be restrictions that feel, well, restrictive, maybe control issues due to insecurity, etc Uranus - pos maybe excitement and feeling like a new person, being energized in an electric way as opposed to mars, feels like the relationship offers new experiences, neg erratic everything it seems, chaos at times, feeling rebellious and hemmed in, no freedom Neptune - pos dreamy nature to relationship, its the higher octave of venus so there could be enhanced creativity in the person, sharing spiritual experiences, neg delusions, addictions Pluto - pos transforming effect on person for the better, feels healed, neg major power struggles, person may feel that they can't control their emotions and things get out of hand, more control issues like saturn ASC - pos this could relate to self image? person feels more put together in public, and then the asc traits would be postively acted out in the relationship, neg.. the opposite? haha I dunno thats what I got off the top of my head looking at those numbers. I dont see it as the beginning and end of synastry interps, as someone stated above. But I am going to be using it now as another tool! Along with basic synastry analysis, looking at the natals, composites, natal aspects to composites, progressions, etc. IP: Logged
tara19 unregistered	posted March 20, 2007 09:14 AM Arnicka thanks! That's a great list and I will follow it. Yeah, I don't think it's all there is. I still think traditional synastry has a lot to say for it, as does Magi synastry, as well as Vedic. I use all of them to leaven the bread, so to speak. But this is an interesting tool indeed. IP: Logged
Diandra23 unregistered	posted March 20, 2007 09:35 AM Thankx Pearl, you�re so sweet for helping. Here�swhat i did. Entered the birth dates,edited the cities list ( copied the information that astro gave about the cities) and then entered into the list of cities.Automatically, the program showed the degrees and minutes right? Then it�s just by sellecting the two names and do the relation chart right? Thank you for your help Stay well IP: Logged
Diandra23 unregistered	posted March 20, 2007 09:49 AM Thnkx Pearl I did that but i think did something wrong. I�ve just copied the result of the site astro about the 2 cities and copied to the list. Then, when entering the 2 birth datas, clicked on the cities. Automatically the program gave me the degrees and minutes of that specifically data. Then,i�ve chosen the Relationship chart but the resutls werent compatible with the natal charts from astrodiesnt. So, i did something wrong but dont know what. Kiss to all IP: Logged
pearlized unregistered	posted March 20, 2007 11:40 AM Diandra, Did you check the time zone? IP: Logged
Diandra23 unregistered	posted March 20, 2007 12:32 PM Accordingly to astrodienst the tima zone for me is less one hour, and the time zone for him is the same. I did the cosmodyne but in the bottom of the page results appears for thesecond person the dates of today..but i putted thr right b-data for the person on the imput and saved. Looks like my pc knowledges are crap :P IP: Logged

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