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libraschoice7
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posted March 19, 2007 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, has anyone experienced heavy Moon aspects in synastry with someone, and felt almost 'merged' emotionally and psychically to the that person? I've been curious about this for awhile and heard a couple of stories in some of the other threads about these kind of connections, but I want to know more. Is it a great feeling or rather bothersome for you? I personally have never had this connection with someone I was romantically involved with, but I crave this kind of connection which continues to elude me...

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Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
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CrankyCap
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posted March 19, 2007 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I replied to a similar posting on this subject a few weeks ago. I, like you, always wanted to see what this connection would be like. Be careful what you wish for!!!

For some people I think it works out wonderfully. My best friend is a Gem-Cap and married a Cap-Cancer. They are a "perfect fit." I consider them to be a model couple. I know they'll be together forever...true soulmates.

My experience...not so perfect and rosy. Intense, volatile, intoxicating. All-consuming. As I've said before, I lost myself. Literally...gone for a while...living in someone else's world. No boundaries. No limitations. No inhibitions. No "grounding." It felt like dreamland, which was most definitely a wonderful feeling...like ecstasy, but not reality. Not only was the breakup "difficult" as they typically are, but I felt like I was viciously JOLTED awake from an all too perfect dream. I had to not only adjust to the loss of the person, but I had to find reality, and find MYSELF again afterwords. And no...still not over it. I do ok until I have a dream about him...then I'm ruined for days. My dreams are vivid, and so many times they leave a lingering effect.

So, my advice to you...tread carefully. You can't just go "hunting" for a Cancer sun either. The feeling is certainly not there with everyone who is a solar match to your moon. The man I talked about in the above paragraph was born literally 10 days before another man I had dated a year prior. The only difference in their charts were the moons and venus. But the differences in my connection to each of them were astronomical.

It can either turn out beautifully or be utterly devastating. A complete loss of self. Retaining your individuality is the hard part. I think in the future, I'd feel more comfortable with a man who has his moon in Cap (or another earth sign), and sun in a water sign. I think that would be a good match, and I'd be less likely to lose my grip and fall overboard!

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posted March 19, 2007 07:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had many lunar aspects with an ex-boyfriend, and my experience was almost identical to CrankyCap's. I lost myself--my identity--in him. It was great at first, because we were instantly familiar and comfortable with each other. We were like old friends catching up, rather than strangers meeting for the first time. We had an intuitive understanding of each other's moods. In many ways, we were mirrors of each other, having almost identical childhoods, experiences, fathers, etc.

However, after some time, it became very, VERY difficult to see the relationship objectively. The entire thing was like a dream. I felt like I was losing who I was, and it got worse the more time I spent with him. I couldn't step back far enough to see what was really going on, and it wasn't until a very painful breakup that I could rebuild my own identity.

We had the following aspects:
-His Moon conjunct my descendant
-My Moon conjunct his descendant
-His Moon conjunct my Venus
-His Moon conjunct my Jupiter
-His Moon conjunct my North Node
-His Moon trine my Saturn
-My Moon sextile his Venus
-My Moon trine his Mars
-My Moon trine his Uranus
-My Moon sextile his Mercury

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libraschoice7
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posted March 19, 2007 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I always thought Moon connections were dreamy and perfect, because if your intuned with them emotionally than you understand them and everything is wonderful...so I have to beware of loosing myself in them(or does it work in both ways, where they loose themselves too)?

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Moon in Cancer
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Venus in Virgo
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babeefoxx
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posted March 19, 2007 09:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would this apply for a moon and ascendant being the same sign, example Libra moon and someone with a Libra ascendant? Or only for certain aspects?

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CrankyCap
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posted March 19, 2007 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LC - Like pseudofemme, that guy and I had A LOT of conjunctions...aside from the sun-moon. We also had a boatload of saturn aspects. I think too many conjunctions will just intensify that connection. So, a relationship with a sun-moon conjunction might be more comfortable and more healthy with some trines and sextiles, but not if it is overloaded with conjunctions. It's just too much...too easy to lose yourself. As far as a man losing himself in you...I've heard of this happening, but I have yet to even MEET a man with a Cap moon! I seem to always go the other way (water sun men), probably because I like giving up control to the man. My biggest problem is that I tend to attract and be attracted to doubles (double earth, double water, fire, etc.). I think it would be best for me to meet someone with the earth/water combo like myself so that I get a little more balance out of my relationships.

Babeefoxx - I have heard that the AC/moon conjunction is a powerful aspect too, although not as strong as sun/moon. I've dated one person who's moon was conj. my asc. Not nearly as intense. But again, I think a lot of it depends on the rest of the chart as well.

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 19, 2007 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad's moon in virgo was conjunct my mother's sun. IMO, the union only breeded resentment.

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LILYGIRL
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posted March 20, 2007 09:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know you asked about close aspects but I want to say something about conjunctions especially Moon conjunctions. The important thing to remember is that a CONJUNCTION is considered by astrologers to be a HARD contact. A CONJUNCTION to your MOON is a particulary hard in your face contact. CrankyCap says some really great things. It's not like a trine or sextile. It can be potently amazing or it can be creepy draining uGGGGGHHHHH.

"Conjunct planets are at the alpha omega point where cycles begin and end. This creates urgency, emphasis, unity and fusion. It's a very subjective state of energy, strong-headed and one-tracked. Impulses will be acted out. We're looking at an inauguration, a blending, a start. This is the most intense and personal of all the aspects. Close interactions are likely. We're talking about synthesis, solidarity and cohesion. A conjunction resonates with Mars, Cardinal, Fire and Aries energy."

Also note that the moon does not necessarily mean dreamy. It actually denotes MOODS. As humans ours encompass a wide range. So the MOON can manifest many things from nurturing, dreamy to paranoid, lonely and irrational. This is--among, other things (aspects and upbringing) how a serial murderer can have a seemingly "innocuous" pisces or libra moon but be deadly virulent and evil.


from cafe astrology:

Grant Lewi, in Astrology for the Millions, offered the most evocative description of the Moon when he wrote the following: "When you "know what you mean but you can't say it," it is your Moon that knows it and your Sun that can't say it. "Thoughts that do often lie too deep for tears" are the thoughts of your Moon's nature. The wordless ecstasy, the mute sorrow, the secret dream, the esoteric picture of yourself that you can't get across to the world, or which the world doesn't comprehend or value - these are the products of the Moon in your horoscope. When you are misunderstood, it is your Moon nature, expressed imperfectly through the Sun sign, that you feel is betrayed. When you know what you ought to do, but can't find the right way to do it, it is your Moon that knows and your Sun that refuses to react in harmony. Also, when you "don't know why I said that," it was your Moon expressing despite your Sun (if you are innerly satisfied with the involuntary speech), or the Sun expressing against the will of the Moon (if you are displeased with what has slipped out). Things you know without thought - intuitions, hunches, instincts - are the products of the Moon. Modes of expression that you feel are truly your deepest self belong to the Moon: art, letters, creative work of any kind; sometimes love; sometimes business. Whatever you feel is most deeply yourself, whether or not you are able to do anything about it in the outer world, is the product of your Moon and of the sign your Moon occupies at birth." (1)

With respect to the other luminary (the Sun), the Moon infuses the past into our lives through the feelings, while the Sun reflects the present or the "here and now".

When we are "acting out" our Moon, we are imaginative, creative, intuitive, sentimental, adaptable, introspective, and protective. On the negative side, we can be moody, restless, and irrational.


Having said that. I do not like anyone's Moon sitting on top of my moon or sun. I find it suffocating and relentless. Others crave that intimacy and it is very intimate.

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CrankyCap
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posted March 20, 2007 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They say familiarity breeds contempt...must be some truth in that.

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posted March 20, 2007 10:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*edited*
sorry...somehow my posted ended up here

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posted March 20, 2007 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CrankyCap: Double dittos on what you wrote. Intense is not a powerful enough word. In my case it is Moon conj Moon, in Pisces no less. I'm thinking about starting a string or, maybe asking in the Pisces Moon thred if anyone has worked on charts with the Nodes. Since the NN transit right now conj both our Moons. I ran charts on this and their is so much Karma going on it's sick. But astrology only points to possibilites and so far it has been a one way street. I know I've learned a lot. I have to be content with that, and move on. Being a Taurus sun 'moving on' is feet stuck in quicksand. The head knows, but the feet of the soul are resisting arrest!

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posted March 20, 2007 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex-husband, a Cancer, and I had conjunct Moons in Aries. His Moon also is conjunct my NN and trines (by aspect)my Sun, Merc, Venus, Vertex, Ceres...

We knew what each other wanted 5 minutes before we actually wanted it...

It's nice but the ruts in the road are harder to get out of...via the trine...
I agree about the "familiar breeding contempt"
IMO an Aries Moon for either a Cancer or Virgo is a toughy..

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CrankyCap
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posted March 20, 2007 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you node...the water signs may actually be WORSE when it comes to conjunctions. Mine was Pisces as well. Yeah, "Welcome to dreamland. We don't DO reality here." LOL...

The nodes are very powerful too. I didn't start researching them until after that relationship ended, and it turned out that his NN was conjunct my sun, and my SN was conjunct his sun. His moon was conjunct my venus too (Scorpio), and I think that one may have sealed the deal. Intensity personified.

I remember one night while I was sitting with him my mind wandered back to thoughts of my family and I was suddenly overwhelmed with sadness and guilt. I realized in that moment that I had been blocking out everyone and everything in my life since I had met him. That isn't healthy, and I knew it.

I was thinking about this earlier, and I think one of the biggest celebrity couple examples to show the malfunction of the moon conjunction are Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt. Before Brad, Aniston was a huge star in her own right. After Brad, she was ALWAYS associated with him. They even began to LOOK alike. She seemed to lose herself in him. Since they broke up, if you've noticed, it has been extremely difficult for her to grasp her own identity again. Since it was his sun and her moon, it is likely that over time he got a feeling that she was too dependent on him...too needy. He has since moved on to Angelina Jolie who herself has a compatible fire moon to his fire sun, but it is in a different sign. The trine creates harmony between them, but not a complete merger. He probably enjoys this more because she still retains her individuality and independence.

That's my take on it anyway...

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posted March 20, 2007 02:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about conjuct moon to venus? or how about moon to eros? would the feeling be as intense? thisis in the sign gemini so i would think it would not be as emotional as say a water sign or fire sign.

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Dulce Luna
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posted March 20, 2007 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I had some annoyingly bad experiences with a Cancer mooner as a kid. No suprise that his moon sits right on top of my sun. That the only sun-moon conjunction I have ever experienced.


Moon-to-Moon, I have with a friend of mine. I don't think its really that intense or intimate. Its comfortable, but the friendship really leaves alot to be desired....like understanding (there really is none).

Oh yeah! My moon also conjuncts my grandfather's moon. Now that relationship is MUCH better.

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