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Diandra23
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posted April 05, 2007 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi

Through the Astrodienst i ran the sinastry for this couple, that appears on The zodiac site as being soulmates regarding those 6 soulmate clues.

The strange thing is that some aspects refered there doesnīt appear on their sinastry table,like:

- The interaspects between venus-north lunar node
- The sun-Vx conjunction
- The veus_Vx trine
- The last clue: Psyche_Eros conjunct and DW also doesnt appear

Are them the only famous couple being knowned as Soul Mates?

It seems that also Jonnhy Cash/June Carter;Catherine Zeta Jones/Michael Douglas;Will Smith/Jada Pinkett maybe Soulmates

It would be funny doing their charts and compare if exists those 6 soulmate clues

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Green Fairy
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posted April 05, 2007 11:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catherine-Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas are definitely not soulmates. *not astrology-related)

And about McCartney - Mills, didn't they have an ugly break-up?

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Diandra23
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posted April 05, 2007 12:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
about Zeta/Michael red it on an Astrology magazine.

Paul and Linda were married for 29 years,then she died with breast cancer ,and Paul said she was the love of his life.
I believe they were soul mates

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wilsontc
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posted April 05, 2007 01:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra,

Ronald and Nancy Reagan were also known as soul mates (even though they probably didn't use those exact words! ).

Soulfully,

Tim

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libraschoice7
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posted April 05, 2007 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've looked at Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas together with their synastry chart a few times to figure out why their together. There's nothing that pops out or even denotes attraction in their synastry or composite chart. They have Sun conjunction Sun and thats about it...it's about as weak as synastry comes IMHO, but like others have said before free will is the ultimate factor.

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

I "FEEL" therefor I am

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Diandra23
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posted April 05, 2007 04:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thatīs what itīs amazing and made me think..and thatīs why started to read the Magi Astrology site.
Curiously i found there the "reasons" why they fell in love and married.
Iīve never hears about this kind of astrology before i entered LL.
bUT there are many things there that really matches,and cant be "explained" by the common sinastry :

~here it goes: http://www.magiastrology.com/douglaszeta.html


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Neferemi
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posted April 05, 2007 04:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're looking for celebrity couples who are "soulmates," I think Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward would be great to analyze.

He's an Aquarius Sun/Pisces Moon and she's a Pisces Sun/Aquarius Moon, but I don't know anything else about their charts.

Also, Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor were "fated to be together" according to biographers. They may not be a good example of a healthy relationship, but they certainly loved each other extremely passionately.

I'll try to think of more examples...

And whoever asked about McCartney-Mills, yes they did split in a very ugly manner with lots of public accusations and weird behaviors. Paul and Linda had been so happy together - he was often quoted that they only spent one night apart and only because he was in jail. It's a shame his second marriage didn't work out.

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Green Fairy
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posted April 05, 2007 05:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
If you're looking for celebrity couples who are "soulmates," I think Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward would be great to analyze.
I completely agree.
As for Catherine-Zeta, everyone says she's a gold-digger.

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pseudofemme
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posted April 05, 2007 08:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward's chart. Check out those conjunct ascendants. I'm surprised by the Uranus squares, though.

Pauk's on the inside.

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Diandra23
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posted April 06, 2007 08:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It seems such a nice chart,those asc conjunct really are said to be wonderful in a couple!
iīve saw their comparison sheets table and there were alot of conjunctions but also sqaures and opositions between important planets!

Well, itīs right that when thereīs love,thereīs almost no challenges that we cannot solve

Iīm also thinking of other couples like: Julio Iglesias/Miranda , Princess Letizia/Prince Philipp of Spain, dont know their b-d though...

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Kat
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posted April 06, 2007 11:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting!
It seems as if alot a truly connected couples have strong aspects between the moon and sun. Perhaps there are several indicators of a " soul mate" relationship.
(I know a few non-famous couples that I'd love to get their birthtimes and do their charts. some with incapatible suns)
I think the problem is that some people who seem incompatible really do make their relationship work, so who are we to judge.

But I've noticed that personally people, friends, etc. tend to be compatible with my moon and people that I clash with (Capricorn moon females) are in opposition to my Sun. I've know several Sag that I should not be friends with, but they all have water sign moons!
with male female relationships I think that the venus/mars connection as well as moon is strong.It's fascinating stuff, expecially Magi astrology, but I think we need to keep an open mind and follow our hearts in relationships because there are so many factors in astrology especially theories and we could potentially disregard a potentially compatible person if we misread a chart.

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Diandra23
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posted April 06, 2007 12:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i agree with you Kat.

One of the moderators told me that what a makes a relationship itīs not the easy aspects and that the relationship itself itīs constructed by the 2 persons,when they work their challenging aspects,and try to adaptate theirselves to one another and to the obstacles

Astrology helps to us to better understand our relations to the ppl and the worls,It sows us our potencials and possible meanings of "inexplicable" THings but it competes to us to choose wether we want to go ahead with that person or not.
I believe 2 people being very diferent are not necessarily incompatible,and the key is in our hearts to solve the enigmas of relationships.

And yes some famous couples being knowned as soulmates also had those hard aspects but somehow managed to work out! itīs a matter of will,hard work and affection and love


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posted April 06, 2007 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I looked some more at Catherine/Michaels synastry(using the Astro123 software, it rocks )they do have a few quindeciles between them one of them Moon quindecile Jupiter, which could explain it. But as far as the chiron aspects go, even if they have Neptune/Chiron, Sun/Chiron, and Pluto/Chiron. I still have seen better compatiblity between people.

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

I "FEEL" therefor I am

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Diandra23
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posted April 06, 2007 02:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

So..it seems that definitely they arent a soulmate couple

what about Marie/Pierre Curie, Robert and Elizabeth Browning, Queen Victoria and Prince Albert,Shah Jahan and Mumtaz Mahal ( The Taj Mahal couple), John F. Kennedy Jr/Carolyn Besette or Khalil Gibran/Mary Askell

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Diandra23
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posted April 06, 2007 03:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ran the sinastry for Prince Philip of Spain and Princess Letizia:

[img]http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=uhkfileYDijGK-u1173019584&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=4&nho2=3&btyp=61&mth=at&sday=6&smon=4&syr=2007&hsy=0&zod=&orbp=&rs=1&add=18&add=19&add=20&ad d=22&add=14&node=-Yn&ast=16%2C433%2C1221%2C1585%2C4473811[/img]

They make a grand trine so it seems..

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Diandra23
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posted April 06, 2007 03:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

These posting charts make me feel like a nurd...

here it goes

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Neferemi
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posted April 07, 2007 03:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra23, some of those are excellent examples of "soullmate"-ish couples. I don't know how "soulmate-ish" JFKjr & Besette were since their biographers say they were unhappy and on the verge of divorce... but who knows - they may have been happy & might have stayed together! I thought of some more that might be interesting to compare:

Elizabeth Barrett Browning & Robert Browning
Katherine Hepburn & Spencer Tracy
Anne of Bohemia & Richard II
Gertrude Stein & Alice B. Toklas
Arthur Rimbaud & Paul Verlaine
Demi Moore & Ashton Kutcher - not sure about them, but they look happy so far...
Faith Hill & Tim McGraw
Gilda Radner & Gene Wilder
Yoko Ono & John Lennon
Susan Sarandon & Tim Robbins
Goldie Hawn & Kurt Russell
Marilyn Monroe & Joe DiMaggio - Maybe in the category of "tragic soulmates"? They really loved each other, Joe just couldn't get over his jealousy issues and her ambition issues. He had a half-dozen red roses delivered to her crypt three times a week until he died.

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Diandra23
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posted April 07, 2007 02:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

iīve found this site where celebrity couples are analised on their romantic compatibility.
Some of them are couples we talked here

itīs a pitty not having their hours of birth,so cant ran their sinastries

I would really love to see the sinastry for some lovers like Cleopatra/Marc Anthony ! of course itīs impossible but it would be great to analise so much feeling and passion

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Diandra23
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posted April 07, 2007 02:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

http://celebrity.astrology.com/jennifergarnerandbenaffleck.html

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Diandra23
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posted April 07, 2007 02:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Found also a site with the birth times,places and hours for celebrity couples

Nice site

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Pinkie&TheBrain
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posted January 29, 2012 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pinkie&TheBrain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by libraschoice7:
I've looked at Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas together with their synastry chart a few times to figure out why their together. There's nothing that pops out or even denotes attraction in their synastry or composite chart. They have Sun conjunction Sun and thats about it...it's about as weak as synastry comes IMHO, but like others have said before free will is the ultimate factor.


Are you kidding me/?? They have a lot of classical attraction aspects.
Probably the strongest would be Catherine's Mars conjunct Michael's Moon.
Explains his line of "I want to father your children".
Their composite chart also has a Moon-Saturn sextile- a strong sign of an enduring, stable affection.
Plus other more minor positive aspects.

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posted January 29, 2012 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think both Zeta/Douglas and Pinkett/Smith need a little more time before I would be comfortable declaring them soulmates. Neither couple has been married THAT long compared to the several decades Paul/Linda or Newman/Woodward spent together. I'm not knocking either of the first two couples, I just think it depends on how you define soul mates.

Even some of the "sure-fire" couples on Neferemi's list from a couple of years ago have broken up. Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon surprised me, I would have been willing to use them as an example just a couple of years ago.

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posted February 04, 2012 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Diandra23:

These posting charts make me feel like a nurd...

here it goes



Max orb between planets is 3' and you *should* have reduced the orb ratio down to 40% on astro..

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left should be *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up the aspect grid –at a glance planet to planet. Post the whole PDF file, what we are looking for if scroll down to ‘partner comparison’ aspect grid


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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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posted February 04, 2012 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Diandra23:

Hi

Through the Astrodienst i ran the sinastry for this couple, that appears on The zodiac site as being soulmates regarding those 6 soulmate clues.

The strange thing is that some aspects refered there doesnīt appear on their sinastry table,like:

- The interaspects between venus-north lunar node
- The sun-Vx conjunction
- The veus_Vx trine
- The last clue: Psyche_Eros conjunct and DW also doesnt appear

Are them the only famous couple being knowned as Soul Mates?

It seems that also Jonnhy Cash/June Carter;Catherine Zeta Jones/Michael Douglas;Will Smith/Jada Pinkett maybe Soulmates

It would be funny doing their charts and compare if exists those 6 soulmate clues


soulmate connections http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/soulmateastrology.html http://www.synastry.us/soulmate_indicators.asp http://www.ehow.com/video_4438856_soul-mates-astrology.html
“The heart of an astrological chart according to esoteric astrology are the moon's nodes, or points where the moon intercepts the earth's orbit around the sun. Your nodes diametrically oppose one another. So if your south node is in Capricorn, your north node would be in the opposite sign of Cancer and your soul's path would be moving from masculine, earthy Capricorn energies, into light, feminine Cancer”. http://www.the-soulmate-site.com/astrological-soulmate.html http://thezodiac.com/soulmates2.htm http://www.tamsoft.co.in/soulmates.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/sexualattractionastrology.html

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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posted February 04, 2012 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wilsontc:
Diandra,

Ronald and Nancy Reagan were also known as soul mates (even though they probably didn't use those exact words! ).

Soulfully,

Tim


they are definitely a soul mate couple. they often talked about loving one another so much that their love felt greater than the love for their kids.

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