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sameesadiq
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From: Pakistan
Registered: Apr 2009

posted April 07, 2007 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone give any comments on this relationship? Any aspect positive or negative .

Partner for KK (female)

born on 30 Dec 1974 local time 5:30 pm
in Malkand, PAK U.T. 12:30
71e56, 34n34 sid.


PLANETARY POSITIONS

planet sign degree House Delinations
Sun Capricorn 08°25'39 in house 6 23s10
Moon Cancer 27°09'35 in house 1 16n59
Mercury Capricorn 14°38'26 in house 7 24s41
Venus Capricorn 21°31'30 in house 7 22s54
Mars Sagittarius 13°54'00 in house 6 22s40 Trine
Jupiter Pisces 13°04'09 in house9 07s44
Saturn Cancer 15°59'43 r in house 1 22n05
Uranus Scorpio 01°49'44 end of house 4 11s36
Neptune Sagittarius 10°22'59 end of house 5 20s30
Pluto Libra 09°12'46 in house 4 11n45
True Node Sagittarius 10°03'41 end of house 5 21s28
POF Aquarius 02°39'00 in house 8 19s39

Chiron Aries 19°57'11 r in house 10 08n30

Vertex Scorpio 28°37'39 in house 5
Lilith Aquarius 25°51.41 in house 8
Ceres Pisces 13°05'41 in house 9

Pallas Aquarius 12°55.42 in house 8
Juno Pisces 21°51'14 in house 9
Vesta Capricorn 07°57.52 in house 6
Pholus Pisces 07°06'20 in house 9
Eris Aries 12°39.00 in house 10

Amor Sagittarius 13°57'00
Isis Leo 16°19'47
Aphrodite Libra 15°46'49
Adonis Sagittarius 01°51'15
Sappho Libra 25°43'24

Karma Gemini 13°29'26 r
Eros Cancer 22°37.10
Psche Aquarius 28°53'26
Lust Sagittarius 12°20'36
Anteros Sagittarius 01°55'15

Valentine Sagittarius 01°54'19
DNA Libra 24°07'50
Amasis Sagittarius 06°52'31
East point Gemini 28°09'45
Eq. Ascendant Gemini 28°10'00
Co-Ascendant Cancer 28°37'00
Polar Ascendant Sagittarius 12°58'00
Her mine
Sun/Moon = Moon, Uranus, Asc & Sun/Moon Midpoint
Venus/Mars = Venus, Sun, Moon & East Point
Moon/Ascendent = Moon, Mercury & Uranus
Sun/Venus - nil
Sun/Ascendent - nil
Sun/Mars - nil
Moon/Saturn = Moon & Mercury
Sun/Pluto - nil

POM Cancer 06°21'00

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* midpoint aspects 0, 45, 90, 135, 165, 180 degrees
orbs are 1-2 degrees

* Delination orbs 1.2 to 1.3 degree


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)

Ascendant Cancer 13°37'02 22n45
2nd House Leo 04°50'05
3rd House Leo 28°39'49
Imum Coeli Virgo 27°49'18
5th House Scorpio 03°10'25
6th House Sagittarius 10°24'41
Descendant Capricorn 13°37'02
8th House Aquarius 04°50'05
9th House Aquarius 28°39'49
Medium Coeli Pisces 27°49'18 00s52
11th House Taurus 03°10'25
12th House Gemini 10°24'41

and SS (male)
born on 6 Feb 1963 local time 12:10 pm
in Rawalpindi, PAK U.T. 07:10
73e04, 33n36


PLANETARY POSITIONS

planet sign degree House Delinations
Sun Aquarius 16°46'31 in house 10 15s49
Moon Cancer 19°08'21 end of house 2 21n07
Mercury Capricorn 22°13'35 in house 9 19s53
Venus Capricorn 00°28'43 in house 8 20s32
Mars Leo 14°13'53 r in house 4 20n55
Jupiter Pisces 16°26'47 in house 11 06s19
Saturn Aquarius 14°09'48 in house 10 17s20
Uranus Virgo 03°57'23 r in house 4 10n48
Neptune Scorpio 15°38'13 in house 6 14s50
Pluto Virgo 11°28'29 r in house 4 20n01
True Node Cancer 29°40'45 r in house 3 20n14


Chiron Pisces 09°00'07 in house 10 03S36
Vertex Scorpio 00°22'23 in house 06
P. Fortune Scorpio 05°15'28 in house 07 13S17
Lilith Libra 21°48'04 in house 06
Ceres Virgo 16°05'30 r in house 05

Pallas Cancer 06°26'24 r in house 02
Juno Virgo 25°53'00 r in house 05
Vesta Libra 00°33'18 in house 05
Pholus Aquarius 15°43'24 in house 10
Eris Aries 09°48'56 in house 11

Amor Aries 10°10'42 in house 11
Isis Leo 11°08'10
Sappho Scorpio 28°00'55
Karma Leo 13°41'02 r
Eros Sagittarius 18°16'22 in house 07

Psche Scorpio 19°05'29
Lust Libra 18°34'17
Osiris Sagittarius 21°41'58
Aphrodite Gemini 19°53'13 r
Anteros Capricorn 07°14'48

Valentine Leo 02°25'46 r
DNA Scorpio 29°36'54
Amasis Libra 06°21'43
East point Taurus 18°43'55

ss her
Sun/Moon = Uranus & Sun/Moon midpoint
Venus/Mars = Venus
Moon/Ascendent = Mercury & Mars
Sun/Venus = Venus
Sun/Ascendent = Sun, Pluto
Sun/Mars = Vertex
Moon/Mars = Uranus,
Moon/Saturn = Uranus
Sun/Pluto = Vertex, Mercury & Saturn

POM Taurus 05°19'00

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)

Ascendant Gemini 02°53'37 20n45
2nd House Gemini 27°38'02
3rd House Cancer 19°49'38
Imum Coeli Leo 13°48'11
5th House Virgo 13°32'06
6th House Libra 21°41'29
Descendant Sagittarius 02°53'37
8th House Sagittarius 27°38'02
9th House Capricorn 19°49'38
Medium Coeli Aquarius 13°48'11 16s41
11th House Pisces 13°32'06
12th House Aries 21°41'29


Composite Horoscope midpoint method

PLANETARY POSITIONS

planet sign degree
Sun Capricorn 27°36'05 in house 8
Moon Cancer 23°08'58 in house 2
Mercury Capricorn 18°26'01 in house 8
Venus Capricorn 11°00'07 in house 7
Mars Libra 14°03'56 in house 5
Jupiter Pisces 14°45'28 in house 10
Saturn Taurus 00°04'46 in house 11
Uranus Libra 02°53'33 in house 4
Neptune Scorpio 28°00'36 in house 6
Pluto Virgo 25°20'38 in house 4
True Node Libra 04°52'13 in house 4
Chiron Pisces 29°30'02 in house 10

Composite Midpoints

Sun/Moon = Sun & Moon (a bit wider than 2 degrees)
Venus/Mars = Neptune, Mars & Venus
Sun/Pluto = Neptune
Venus/Pluto = Uranus & True Node


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)

Ascendant Gemini 23°24'38
2nd House Cancer 16°18'34
3rd House Leo 09°14'43
Imum Coeli Virgo 05°47'06
5th House Libra 08°21'45
6th House Scorpio 16°09'05
Descendant Sagittarius 23°24'38
8th House Capricorn 16°18'34
9th House Aquarius 09°14'43
Medium Coeli Pisces 05°47'06
11th House Aries 08°21'45
12th House Taurus 16°09'05

My own comments

No strong Sun-Moon conection in synastry except for minor novile aspect but sun opposite moon in composite chart.

No Venus - Mars aspectsin synastry but square aspect in composite chart.

Ascendents making novile aspects mutually.
SS has grand trine and helping KK to complete her trine.

Many similarities natally, like,

Moon in Cancer
Mercury in Capricorn
Venus in Capricorn
Jupiter in Pisces
Pluto in 4th house natally
Vertex in Scorpio


Sun in each others 8th house

What is the overall picture of the relationship? Your analysis will be helpful.

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wilsontc
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posted April 07, 2007 01:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
samee,

Your Moons are in challenging aspect to each other, indicating there is a strong "connection" to you. Looking at the personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars), there are all challenging connections. This can be exciting in the short-term but more challenging long-term. You have a stronger Venus (relationships) connection than she does, indicating you feel the relationship stronger than she does. There are challenging connections to her Moon (home, also emotions) and Mercury (thinking, also talking/daily work) so she may feel emotionally upset or that you are arguing with her. However, your Mars (being, also action) are trine (energy goes very easily with) so, if you take action on issues you can work them out together. The outer planets (other planets not mentioned) connections are mostly easy, so, as long as you two focus on "big picture" (i.e., non-personal issues), you can get along fine.

Challenges can be strengths in relationships, as each person works to build the relationship together and overcome their difficulties in the relationship. Whether or not you both want to do this is up to the BOTH of you.

Relating,

Tim

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sameesadiq
Newflake

Posts: 5
From: Pakistan
Registered: Apr 2009

posted April 07, 2007 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Wilsontc for your comments.

I understand sun-moon, venus-mars relations are very important in synastry but there are no such aspects atleast in synastry here. What will be the significance of their abscence?

I also understand that hard aspects are learning oppurtunities. Most of the personal planet aspects are conjunctions or oppositions which are still better than squares.

Do her natal grand trine completed by my Neptune and my natal grand trine eases the things?

Moreover, what is the significance of midpoints in our synastry? Midpoints are easy or hard aspects?

Btw I am male and 'he" is she.

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wilsontc
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posted April 08, 2007 01:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Samee,

I apologize for my error and have corrected my original text. The chart indicates the challenges the couple faces and the couple has to decide how they want to handle them. Trines are nice but they do not make up for other aspect challenges in the chart.

I have a hunch you are already aware of these challenges and may be looking for an easy way to handle them. There isn't an easy way, just get together with her and, now that you know the issues, use your knowledge to watch how they effect her and develop strategies to overcome the issues. It can be done, but it takes hard work working together on the relationship.

Relating,

Tim

P.S. Midpoints are considered similar to separate "planets" in the chart, and have their own energy and interaction with the chart. Although midpoints are interesting, I have found by limiting the chart to the 10 planets and not using midpoint, it is MUCH simpler to interpret the chart. And I get the same answer.

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sameesadiq
Newflake

Posts: 5
From: Pakistan
Registered: Apr 2009

posted April 08, 2007 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim,
Thanks you for your comments. They say that one should not read one's own Synastry. Your observations have helped me to understand our relation better.

I agree with you that I am more attracted towards her and we have some communication problems too and I hurt her often emotionally and I also feel that there is a mars trine mars influence also, as explained by you.

Does the double whammy of moon-mercury opposition in synastry helps to understand each other better in the long run and improves the mutual understanding.What is the effect of her venus conjunct my mercury on our relation.

Moreover, how the absence of any major sun-moon, venus-mars aspects can effect this relationship.

I understand that sun-moon-ascendent links are the most important aspects in a relationship but we don't have any major aspect between these three luminaries-ascendent except one asc-moon conjunction. Is this relationship going to last. Well, there are some saturn links too which are said glue of the relationship. Your comments, please.

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wilsontc
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posted April 09, 2007 01:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Samee,

Mercury (thinking/daily work, also analysis) connections with someone indicate we think about that person and may overanalyze our relationships. The presence of the Moon (home, also emotions) indicates an emotional connection to the other person. Saturn (duty, also structure) links can help build the relationship if both people decide they want to be "serious" about the relationship.

I don't agree that a person shouldn't read their own synastry. Instead I think ONLY that person and the other person can fully understand their own synastry. I am on the outside, peeking in on your relationship through the window of astrology. You are on the inside, staring into each other's eyes and knowing the secrets within.

I suggest taking advantage of your Mercury connections and talking things out with her, especially about any communication problems you are having and your being sorry for hurting her emotionally.

Mercurially,

Tim

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sameesadiq
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Posts: 5
From: Pakistan
Registered: Apr 2009

posted April 10, 2007 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sameesadiq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Tim,
Your advice will be very useful. Your way of describing aspects is good. You have covered almost everything in your posts, personal as well as outer planets' interactions. Can you see/advise anything else from the synastry, like the communication problems you have observed, which may help?
Samee

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wilsontc
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posted April 10, 2007 05:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
samee,

Nothing to add, just go out to her and be your charming self!

Charmingly,

Tim

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